Then why if you that honorable thing stated above are so focused on bashing them on this thread. One thing is not agreeing and another very different one humiliating. I think you are an honest person, I buy that, Ive seen you post for 7 fuckin years. I just don't get why decisions made by others in their PERSONAL life affect you so much? Is just mind-boggling. I take the libertarian Ron Paul approach and think government shouldn't be fucking with what you do with your personal life as long as it doesn't harm others. That includes gays and drug users. There is just not proof that gay parents can't be as good as normal parents, kids just want to be loved, listened and understood. Yes of course gay people have abused kids; so has straight people, married parents, school and high school teachers, priests, coaches, police officers and clowns. There's no label that defines what kind of person you are.
I am not for it because in my adult life they could form a Civil Union and otherwise just live with one another and that's that. But all of this political bullshit that goes along with it drags me down. Gay political activists are the most intolerant, most condemning, most self-aggrandizing political types I;'ve ever encountered. If I'm wrong name another political activist faction (American) that has been worse.
Marriage to me is a 'historical thing' and not a Legal definition. Oh and btw, I do not hate gay people. Just a few that were as annoying as some idiot hetros that I know.
This is all about politics, I repeat, because they can couple up any way they want, it's just that some (thankfully not all) gays demand that hetrosexual types approve of this and declare homosexuals to be equal to hetro's in every way. So the tipping point with me becomes the history of marriage here on planet earth... I know it as a union of a man and woman who commit to one another with the probabilty of having offspring and rearing them in a sensible way. This is that whole propogation of the species thing that is job number one in all current and previous civilizations. So simply put, it takes a man and a woman to go this route, therefore 2 men or 2 women in a marriage is not the same thing and does not have the same... value for lack of better term. Sorry, it just isn't the same deal.
So with political gays, it's all about the labeling. If we say we are "Married" that makes us equal to all hetrosexual married couples. Again, it is not the same deal even if they choose to adopt. But mostly I am SICK OF THE POLITICS inherent with this discussion.
And for all of you 20 somethings that like to roll your eyes at the over 40 crowd, get over yourselves. This does not make you enlightened beings because you are all "Oh who cares who loves who... let consenting adults do what they want... if they love each other they should be together" etc. etc. I agree with all of that as well it is just that gay marriage is NOT necessary to make this fly. Gay couples did just fine in decades prior without all of the political bullshit that dominated the airwaves in recent years. It's kind of bogus in my eyes. A gay couple will never be the same as a hetro couple in my eyes. Again sorry to all of you who are aghast at this.
I am not for it because in my adult life they could form a Civil Union and otherwise just live with one another and that's that. But all of this political bullshit that goes along with it drags me down. Gay political activists are the most intolerant, most condemning, most self-aggrandizing political types I;'ve ever encountered. If I'm wrong name another political activist faction (American) that has been worse.
Marriage to me is a 'historical thing' and not a Legal definition. Oh and btw, I do not hate gay people. Just a few that were as annoying as some idiot hetros that I know.
This is all about politics, I repeat, because they can couple up any way they want, it's just that some (thankfully not all) gays demand that hetrosexual types approve of this and declare homosexuals to be equal to hetro's in every way. So the tipping point with me becomes the history of marriage here on planet earth... I know it as a union of a man and woman who commit to one another with the probabilty of having offspring and rearing them in a sensible way. This is that whole propogation of the species thing that is job number one in all current and previous civilizations. So simply put, it takes a man and a woman to go this route, therefore 2 men or 2 women in a marriage is not the same thing and does not have the same... value for lack of better term. Sorry, it just isn't the same deal.
So with political gays, it's all about the labeling. If we say we are "Married" that makes us equal to all hetrosexual married couples. Again, it is not the same deal even if they choose to adopt. But mostly I am SICK OF THE POLITICS inherent with this discussion.
And for all of you 20 somethings that like to roll your eyes at the over 40 crowd, get over yourselves. This does not make you enlightened beings because you are all "Oh who cares who loves who... let consenting adults do what they want... if they love each other they should be together" etc. etc. I agree with all of that as well it is just that gay marriage is NOT necessary to make this fly. Gay couples did just fine in decades prior without all of the political bullshit that dominated the airwaves in recent years. It's kind of bogus in my eyes. A gay couple will never be the same as a hetro couple in my eyes. Again sorry to all of you who are aghast at this.
I believe it has ZERO to do with politics and instead is about human rights.
Human rights is just a tag to throw into the mix to make it appear like it carries more weight than it acutally does. These humans can live together and call it marriage, civil union, a relationship, a friendship and so forth. NOBODY is preventing this from happening so therefore it is not a genuine human rights thing.
Pretty much. There are those who are hung up on the whole "label" aspect of this. Hardcore political gay activists want everyone to acknowledge that a homosexual 'marriage' is fully equal to a hetrosexual 'marriage'. People have varied definitions of 'marriage' regardless of what the letter of the law says.It has *everything* to do with politics.
Female Softball Player Comes Out as Straight
Apr 10, 2014
A college softball player from the University of Texas shocked the sports world today by coming out as a heterosexual.
In an emotional press conference this morning, Jennifer Ryan, 23, announced that she was a “proud member” of the opposite-sex community. The senior shortstop is believed to be the first and only openly straight women’s softball player in the history of NCAA athletics.
“I would just like to thank everyone who has supported me through this difficult time in my life,” she told reporters at McCombs Field in Austin. “For years I have known that I was different, but lacked the courage to be open about my lifestyle with family, friends and teammates.
“Today I would like to tell the world that I am straight. It’s not something that I chose. I was simply born this way. And after years of living in the closet, the time has come for me to start being who I really am.
“I want to tell every little girl in America: you don’t have to be gay to be an elite softball player. Straight athletes hit just as hard, pitch just as hard, and run just as hard as everybody else.
“Hopefully my example will inspire other straight softball players to come out from the shadows. We need to stand up and be recognized for the amazing contributions we have made to this sport.”
First Base
Today’s news move comes after several high-profile male athletes have come out as gay in recent months. Jason Collins became the first openly-gay player in the NBA this year after the Brooklyn Nets signed him in February. And the NFL is expected to have its first openly gay player when Missouri defensive end Michael Sam is drafted in May.
Just yesterday, men’s college basketball became the latest sport to have it’s first openly gay player when UMass sophomore forward Derrick Gordon came out to USA Today.
Other collegiate sports have long had gay openly gay athletes. But some, like softball, have notoriously had a dearth of openly straight ones.
Nevertheless Ryan’s coming-out has drawn support from several prominent gay softball stars. Shortly after the press conference 2008 silver medalist Lauren Lappin Tweeted, “Great day for college softball. Jennifer Ryan has proved we are a sport that accepts all lifestyles.”
Female Softball Player Comes Out as Straight
Apr 10, 2014
A college softball player from the University of Texas shocked the sports world today by coming out as a heterosexual.
In an emotional press conference this morning, Jennifer Ryan, 23, announced that she was a “proud member” of the opposite-sex community. The senior shortstop is believed to be the first and only openly straight women’s softball player in the history of NCAA athletics.
“I would just like to thank everyone who has supported me through this difficult time in my life,” she told reporters at McCombs Field in Austin. “For years I have known that I was different, but lacked the courage to be open about my lifestyle with family, friends and teammates.
“Today I would like to tell the world that I am straight. It’s not something that I chose. I was simply born this way. And after years of living in the closet, the time has come for me to start being who I really am.
“I want to tell every little girl in America: you don’t have to be gay to be an elite softball player. Straight athletes hit just as hard, pitch just as hard, and run just as hard as everybody else.
“Hopefully my example will inspire other straight softball players to come out from the shadows. We need to stand up and be recognized for the amazing contributions we have made to this sport.”
First Base
Today’s news move comes after several high-profile male athletes have come out as gay in recent months. Jason Collins became the first openly-gay player in the NBA this year after the Brooklyn Nets signed him in February. And the NFL is expected to have its first openly gay player when Missouri defensive end Michael Sam is drafted in May.
Just yesterday, men’s college basketball became the latest sport to have it’s first openly gay player when UMass sophomore forward Derrick Gordon came out to USA Today.
Other collegiate sports have long had gay openly gay athletes. But some, like softball, have notoriously had a dearth of openly straight ones.
Nevertheless Ryan’s coming-out has drawn support from several prominent gay softball stars. Shortly after the press conference 2008 silver medalist Lauren Lappin Tweeted, “Great day for college softball. Jennifer Ryan has proved we are a sport that accepts all lifestyles.”
Should we post something about the countless "straight" people that are now out as gay
smh