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No, Illini was trying to make it. And thats the way he feels by the posts he's made in this thread. My point is there is no proof that it would be a bad arrangement thats all. I agree with you different circumstances play themselves out and nothing is perfect. Children get raised in all different ways. But to assume that a man-man / woman-woman could not do a better job than a traditional couple is pretty silly if you ask me.
A child needs a mother and a father. If an irresponsible guy won't stand up and be a father to his child, then it is neglect. I don't think it's a good idea to let gay couples buy children, but that's my opinion, which is what was asked in this thread. I don't agree with abortion either, but I don't worry about things out of my control. If a child is raised by a gay couple and is happy, good for the child. I wouldn't want that life, though.
 
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Homophobes still losing the discussion. Arguments are ridiculous. Sorry guys, but I dont see how good people, regardless of their race, political views or sexual preference can be discarded as a parent. Marriage is a contract, get over it.
 

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Homophobes still losing the discussion. Arguments are ridiculous. Sorry guys, but I dont see how good people, regardless of their race, political views or sexual preference can be discarded as a parent. Marriage is a contract, get over it.
Parenting starts with heterosexual sex. Fail.
 
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Homophobes still losing the discussion. Arguments are ridiculous. Sorry guys, but I dont see how good people, regardless of their race, political views or sexual preference can be discarded as a parent. Marriage is a contract, get over it.

When people start throwing out the "homophobe" slur, you know they've lost the argument. So predictable.
 

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Like I said, I don't worry about things out of my control. But I'm never going to agree with gay marriage and gays purchasing children. Children are not meant to be bought and sold, they are meant to have a relationship with both parents. Nobody can argue that.
 

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Parenting starts with heterosexual sex. Fail.
You are wrong about this. Kids are a byproduct of sex. Heterosexuals have sex not only to have kids.
Hetersexuals who can't have kids because of medical problems adopt to become parents. You really need to differentiate the two.

You are hung up on this havng sex thing when that has nothing to do with any of this discussion.
 

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Like I said, I don't worry about things out of my control. But I'm never going to agree with gay marriage and gays purchasing children. Children are not meant to be bought and sold, they are meant to have a relationship with both parents. Nobody can argue that.

No one could argue Tim tebow having a long nfl career either but how did that work out for you??
 

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You are wrong about this. Kids are a byproduct of sex. Heterosexuals have sex not only to have kids.
Hetersexuals who can't have kids because of medical problems adopt to become parents. You really need to differentiate the two.

You are hung up on this havng sex thing when that has nothing to do with any of this discussion.
You are hung up on ignoring the parenting roles and saying it makes no difference. But it's your opinion, and I'm sure it won't change.
 
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When people start throwing out the "homophobe" slur, you know they've lost the argument. So predictable.

I think you fit perfectly into that category Fester, you hate fags, admit it, you are afraid of them as well. Its obvious if you hate something or fear it you are not going to see the big picture and you are going to make whatever excuse fit into your argument of why is it wrong to be gay and marry or raise children. You are just biased! Me? I dont have a dog in this fight, I can see the big picture. I dont hate or love gays, I've met gay people that I like as a person/friend and others that I dislike.
 
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I think you fit perfectly into that category Fester, you hate fags, admit it, you are afraid of them as well. Its obvious if you hate something or fear it you are not going to see the big picture and you are going to make whatever excuse fit into your argument of why is it wrong to be gay and marry or raise children. You are just biased! Me? I dont have a dog in this fight, I can see the big picture. I dont hate or love gays, I've met gay people that I like as a person/friend and others that I dislike.

You got me totally wrong. I don't hate gays, and I'm not afraid of them. I'm an honest person, and as I shared earlier in this thread or the gay thread in the political thread, I opened up my one bedroom apartment for a gay guy to live with me for a while, while he was out of work, and didn't have a place to live for a while.
 

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You got me totally wrong. I don't hate gays, and I'm not afraid of them. I'm an honest person, and as I shared earlier in this thread or the gay thread in the political thread, I opened up my one bedroom apartment for a gay guy to live with me for a while, while he was out of work, and didn't have a place to live for a while.

In this thread alone you have likened gay behavior to bestiality as well as saying homosexuality should be labeled as a mental illness. Further, you have said that the gays are ruining modern day society and also thrown in some very vulgar comments aimed at belittling their sexual behaviors.

You may not be a homophobe in real life but in this thread you have done nothing to make people think otherwise.
 
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You got me totally wrong. I don't hate gays, and I'm not afraid of them. I'm an honest person, and as I shared earlier in this thread or the gay thread in the political thread, I opened up my one bedroom apartment for a gay guy to live with me for a while, while he was out of work, and didn't have a place to live for a while.

Then why if you that honorable thing stated above are so focused on bashing them on this thread. One thing is not agreeing and another very different one humiliating. I think you are an honest person, I buy that, Ive seen you post for 7 fuckin years. I just don't get why decisions made by others in their PERSONAL life affect you so much? Is just mind-boggling. I take the libertarian Ron Paul approach and think government shouldn't be fucking with what you do with your personal life as long as it doesn't harm others. That includes gays and drug users. There is just not proof that gay parents can't be as good as normal parents, kids just want to be loved, listened and understood. Yes of course gay people have abused kids; so has straight people, married parents, school and high school teachers, priests, coaches, police officers and clowns. There's no label that defines what kind of person you are.
 
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In this thread alone you have likened gay behavior to bestiality as well as saying homosexuality should be labeled as a mental illness. Further, you have said that the gays are ruining modern day society and also thrown in some very vulgar comments aimed at belittling their sexual behaviors.

You may not be a homophobe in real life but in this thread you have done nothing to make people think otherwise.

You are a liar, and you continue to prove it.

I did not liken gay behavior to bestiality.

You're just not very bright Justin.

Now, are you going to admit you also lied earlier in the thread about the gay gene? The lie that multiple people called you out on, and
you continue to ignore?
 
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Then why if you that honorable thing stated above are so focused on bashing them on this thread. One thing is not agreeing and another very different one humiliating. I think you are an honest person, I buy that, Ive seen you post for 7 fuckin years. I just don't get why decisions made by others in their PERSONAL life affect you so much? Is just mind-boggling. I take the libertarian Ron Paul approach and think government shouldn't be fucking with what you do with your personal life as long as it doesn't harm others. That includes gays and drug users. There is just not proof that gay parents can't be as good as normal parents, kids just want to be loved, listened and understood. Yes of course gay people have abused kids; so has straight people, married parents, school and high school teachers, priests, coaches, police officers and clowns. There's no label that defines what kind of person you are.

If you've read my posts for 7 years, than instead of writing this blather above, you would have noticed that in this thread, I said I think that gays should have "civil unions" that give them every single tax benefit that heterosexuals have. I just don't think that we should change the definition of marriage, period.
 
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If you've read my posts for 7 years, than instead of writing this blather above, you would have noticed that in this thread, I said I think that gays should have "civil unions" that give them every single tax benefit that heterosexuals have. I just don't think that we should change the definition of marriage, period.

Then I agree, civil unions if they wanna call it that fine... but then why post articles like that St. Patricks shit?
 
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I haven't read the whole thread just bits... 16 pages of liberals vs conservatives on gay marriage... meh
 

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I don't understand how any Hetero man could be Against gay marriage. More the better I say, it increases the odds for those of us chasing pussy
 

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