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so you think schools should use religious beliefs as their guiding force???? the founding fathers didn't think so.

You have quite literally no idea what the people who founded America believed.

Even though they wrote a lot of it down.

Here we go again....the only guy that knows what the bible means and what the founders believed is Acebb. Arent you getting beat up enough threads? Seriously, take a break....you look dumber than russ and dave007 and those guys are actually retarded.
 

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Here we go again....the only guy that knows what the bible means and what the founders believed is Acebb.

Nice straw man, goofball.

Anyway, By a vote of 5-4, the Supreme Court has ruled that the town of Greece, New York, has not violated the Establishment Clause by opening its monthly board meeting with a prayer.

Oh well. Now you'll come back with some incoherent rambling.
 

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Nice straw man, goofball.

Anyway, By a vote of 5-4, the Supreme Court has ruled that the town of Greece, New York, has not violated the Establishment Clause by opening its monthly board meeting with a prayer.

Oh well. Now you'll come back with some incoherent rambling.

I don't care about that.

I only care that you think you know what the bible and the founding fathers meant and nobody else does. even when the bible spews nonsense, just like you, you try to say "that's not what it means". You simply have no clue about anything. end of story.
 

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I don't care about that.

I only care that you think you know what the bible and the founding fathers meant and nobody else does. even when the bible spews nonsense, just like you, you try to say "that's not what it means". You simply have no clue about anything. end of story.

Except I've never said "nobody else does"

Idiot.

But thanks for replying with the incoherent rambling.

Finally, of course you "wouldn't care" about a SCOTUS case on the topic. Why would you? You're too busy posting dumb drivel.
 

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Except I've never said "nobody else does"

Idiot.

But thanks for replying with the incoherent rambling.

Finally, of course you "wouldn't care" about a SCOTUS case on the topic. Why would you? You're too busy posting dumb drivel.

I don't care about the issue. Why is that hard for you to understand? Nevermind, everything is.

You don't have a clue what the bible means or what the founders thought. None.

The topic is gay marriage....did you see the thread title?
 

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I don't care about the issue. Why is that hard for you to understand? Nevermind, everything is.

You don't have a clue what the bible means or what the founders thought. None.

The topic is gay marriage....did you see the thread title?

Hysterical.

Hurt 'tard, I made posts in the political forum, go read them!

HURRY
 

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I don't care about the issue. Why is that hard for you to understand? Nevermind, everything is.

You don't have a clue what the bible means or what the founders thought. None.

The topic is gay marriage....did you see the thread title?

I honestly think Acebb hears voices that he believes is Jesus or the Founding Fathers telling him what they think. The dude clearly has major mental issues that none of us are experienced enough to cure.
 
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I honestly think Acebb hears voices that he believes is Jesus or the Founding Fathers telling him what they think. The dude clearly has major mental issues that none of us are experienced enough to cure.

Ace is one of the brightest guys in here. It makes sense that you would have comprehension problems with his posts.
 

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so you think schools should use religious beliefs as their guiding force???? the founding fathers didn't think so.

You have quite literally no idea what the people who founded America believed.

Even though they wrote a lot of it down.

you have not written one fact in any post, yet you claim others have mental illness. i know what the founding fathers wrote and it all had to do with keeping religion and any public policy, including schools, separate. they were deists, not religious. have a 5th grader explain the difference to you.
 

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i know what the founding fathers wrote and it all had to do with keeping religion and any public policy, including schools, separate.

No, you have no idea what they wrote because they didn't write what you claim.

Those are facts.

See, the people who founded America believed your rights came from God. They wrote that down.

Further, in order to believe what you ignorantly believe you'd have to reconcile your silly belief with the fact, not opinion, fact that the political contemporaries of America's founders put God into a whole bunch of State Constitutions [It is the right as well as the duty of all men in society, publicly, and at stated seasons to worship the Supreme Being, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. -Massachusetts]

But hey, don't worry about that. It is easier to comically type "Deists" (only 2 of them are thought to possibly be deists (Jefferson and Franklin) and be done with it all.
 

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you have not written one fact in any post, yet you claim others have mental illness. i know what the founding fathers wrote and it all had to do with keeping religion and any public policy, including schools, separate. they were deists, not religious. have a 5th grader explain the difference to you.

It is a fact, not an opinion, that the Declaration of Independence begins by attributing the States' "entitlement" to become a "separate and equal station" to "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" and concludes with an appeal "to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of [their] intentions."

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unabashed declaration of dependence on Divine Providence shows they had not one bit of hesitation to put religion in public policy as they believed that God was not only guiding their work, he was blessing them with approval.

I'll add, The Continental Congress in its first session on September 6, 1774 passed this resolution: "Resolved , that the Rev. Mr. Duché be desired to open Congress tomorrow morning with prayer, at Carpenter's hall, at nine o'clock."
 
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you have not written one fact in any post, yet you claim others have mental illness. i know what the founding fathers wrote and it all had to do with keeping religion and any public policy, including schools, separate. they were deists, not religious. have a 5th grader explain the difference to you.

Um, no they were not Deists. Try again?

Do you even know what a Deist is?
 
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you have not written one fact in any post, yet you claim others have mental illness. i know what the founding fathers wrote and it all had to do with keeping religion and any public policy, including schools, separate. they were deists, not religious. have a 5th grader explain the difference to you.

Complete horseshit. You aren't even close. Are you just making this shit up? Care to try again?
 
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you have not written one fact in any post, yet you claim others have mental illness. i know what the founding fathers wrote and it all had to do with keeping religion and any public policy, including schools, separate. they were deists, not religious. have a 5th grader explain the difference to you.

Oh, and by the way - just so you know. I own what is considered *the* scholarly work on the subject in academic circles: "The Religious Beliefs of America's Founders - Reason, Revelation and Revolution," by Dr. Gregg Frazer Master's College, published by Univ Kansas Press.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0700618457/

So your silly little ignorant quips aren't going to fly.
 

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Hysterical.

Hurt 'tard, I made posts in the political forum, go read them!

HURRY

No need...same nonsense...obama sucks and was born in kenya. That's your basic contributions.

You are the biggest idiot in rx history.

You are wrong about everything.
 

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if you care so much about wether or not 2 people are legally allowed to get married, you need to take a look in the mirror.
 
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[ Pop star comes out and says her bisexuality was just a phase, and her "coming out" was because she was young and naive, and she doesn't want it to be part of her life any more.
It's pretty clear that she "wasn't born that way" ]

[h=1]Jessie J says her bisexuality was a phase. What a shame[/h] Hearts sank when the singer dismissed her brave coming out as something she did when young and naive


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'Jessie J’s assertion that she wants to stop talking about it is directed at the media, but the message to young women and men questioning their sexuality is that she’s over it.' Photograph: Anthony Devlin/PA

Pop stars and celebrities can protest against their status as role models as much as they like but it's an unfortunately unavoidable part of being famous. This is why Jessie J stating that her bisexuality was just a phase feels like such a loss for young gay or questioning people who look up to her.
Ambiguous sexuality has long been a selling point for pop stars, David Bowie being the most obvious example. However, Jessie J didn't foster a studied ambiguity about her sexual preferences but instead openly came out as bisexual. I would never deny Jessie J, or anyone else, the right to define themselves, identify with whatever sexuality they want or reject labels altogether. However, since she so publicly and boldly came out as having had relationships with both men and women, it feels all the more disappointing.
To have such a strong, female, bisexual role model speak in a way that clearly distances herself from her bi and gay fans is a big letdown. Jessie J's assertion that she wants to "stop talking about it completely" is directed at a media fond of asking her questions about her sexuality, but however justified her frustration, the message to young women and men questioning their sexuality is that she's over it, she doesn't want it to be a part of her life anymore, it's something that she wants to move away from.
Many people couldn't understand why lesbians were so excited about Ellen Page coming out. "How is this news?" was a fairly common observation. It was news because the lack of female, gay role models for young women is astonishing. I get excited when I see a high-profile gay woman because I see myself in her; being successful, being accepted. Jessie J has described her relationships with women as a phase.
It's an unhelpful term as this is an idea that gay people find themselves constantly battling against. Jessie J doesn't have to be bisexual if she no longer identifies that way. Who are we to dictate her sexuality or make her talk about it at all? But having already entered into a public discussion about it, to dismiss her previous brave coming out as something she did when she was young and naive, just "a part of growing up", is a real shame.
Jessie J remains a fantastic female role model, that hasn't changed. She is a breath of fresh air as a pop star, outspoken, bold and interesting. However, when she says she wants to move on from her declaration, the hearts of all those who saw it as an inspiring, hopeful moment will sink.







http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/08/jessie-j-bisexuality-phase-singer-coming-out
 

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