Are the Dolphins Overrated

[Avocado33]

Allen Y/A 7.5,
Mahomes Y/A 5.8

What?

Mahomes is 7.3 lol

 

[raiders72]

He's improved a lot from what he used to be, which is not saying much since he was so bad his first couple of years in that department

He's been close to the same for a few years now though

Puts too much on the ball, has pretty crappy touch on intermediate throws. That's hard to improve on though

And he still makes dumb decisions

He's not close to the same. This year his accuracy made another big stride. He makes some bonehead plays but he's more accurate than Mahomes if you watched all his games this year.

 

[raiders72]

What?

Mahomes is 7.3 lol

You're right. Mahomes still gets more of those shovel passes.

 

[Avocado33]

He's not close to the same. This year his accuracy made another big stride. He makes some bonehead plays but he's more accurate than Mahomes if you watched all his games this year.

I have watched plenty of Allen and Mahomes.

Allen had a few good games early but is regressing back to what he is.

Very inconsistent player. Has been for several years

 

[raiders72]

I have watched plenty of Allen and Mahomes.

Allen had a few good games early but is regressing back to what he is.

Very inconsistent player. Has been for several years

If anyone has regressed it's Mahomes. He's not the same as early years. Who has been better this year, Allen or Mahomes?

 

[raiders72]

Allen hasn't thrown more than 1 int all year except for the last game we all saw where he threw 3 picks and he's getting judged on 1 game.

Allen had close to a perfect game week 6 QB rating 158.3. He was 21/25 for 320 yds and 4 TD. How could you miss that it was against Mia.

 

[raiders72]

His second to last game 31/37 with QB rating 124.5 with 3 TDs and 0 int. He's not getting worse, he had 1 bad game. He still has the best QBR in the NFL and we'll have to wait on PFF to see if he dropped.

 

[Avocado33]

You're right. Mahomes still gets more of those shovel passes.

Yes, by design. He doesn't have a true WR1. One o

Allen hasn't thrown more than 1 int all year except for the last game we all saw where he threw 3 picks and he's getting judged on 1 game.

Allen had close to a perfect game week 6 QB rating 158.3. He was 21/25 for 320 yds and 4 TD. How could you miss that it was against Mia.

He’s hot and cold

Which I’ve acknowledged many times.

You should look at his performances charted over the last 2+ seasons. It’s truly fascinating

 

[raiders72]

Yes, by design. He doesn't have a true WR1. One o

He’s hot and cold

Which I’ve acknowledged many times.

You should look at his performances charted over the last 2+ seasons. It’s truly fascinating

That's my point. He's different this year. In 2023 he's been deadly accurate with great ball placement and a better QB than Mahomes even in the pocket. Allen had one really bad game this year. Outplayed Tua head to head big time.

 

[raiders72]

Allen doesn't run as much this year compared to last. 4.9 attempts/game compared to 7.8 last year. His last game was more the 2022 Allen.

 

[Avocado33]

Allen doesn't run as much this year compared to last. 4.9 attempts/game compared to 7.8 last year. His last game was more the 2022 Allen.

He’s started to cool off though. He’ll be well under 70% second half of year

 

[raiders72]

He’s started to cool off though. He’ll be well under 70% second half of year

He's been over 80% two of the last four weeks. Watch his ball placement Monday vs. Denver. He's been making it easy on receivers other than a couple a game where it's thrown sp hard.

 

[Avocado33]

He's been over 80% two of the last four weeks. Watch his ball placement Monday vs. Denver. He's been making it easy on receivers other than a couple a game where it's thrown sp hard.

Ok I’ll watch and maybe I’ll be amazed

 

[Seymour]

Dolphins have a good team - they have some problems - most glaring is their rushing game - but they Chiefs game really swung on the one miracle fluke fumble for a TD before half - they got overwhelmed at Buffalo and Philly in the first half - the officials didn’t help in Philly either - the win at the Chargers was a good win - they are definitely not out of the mix - hard to say anyone is more dominant right now - see how every plays out the second half

 

[brendanjack]

Dolphins have a good team - they have some problems - most glaring is their rushing game - but they Chiefs game really swung on the one miracle fluke fumble for a TD before half - they got overwhelmed at Buffalo and Philly in the first half - the officials didn’t help in Philly either - the win at the Chargers was a good win - they are definitely not out of the mix - hard to say anyone is more dominant right now - see how every plays out the second half

I agree the Afc east is there’s to grab if they really want it . They will have To win a couple division games to hold on but it’s definitely doable. Any where from 10-7 12-5 most likely 11-6

 

[raiders72]

Ok I’ll watch and maybe I’ll be amazed

If the wind is strong it could affect deep passes.

 

[Avocado33]

Dolphins have a good team - they have some problems - most glaring is their rushing game - but they Chiefs game really swung on the one miracle fluke fumble for a TD before half - they got overwhelmed at Buffalo and Philly in the first half - the officials didn’t help in Philly either - the win at the Chargers was a good win - they are definitely not out of the mix - hard to say anyone is more dominant right now - see how every plays out the second half

Yep

The Dolphins certainly should be the favorites in the AFC East

And no one has played out of this world this season. No truly amazing team this year


People will rag on the Dolphins for just beating up on bad teams. To some extent that is fair

But they also have not been at home any of those games. The Philly game was strongly influenced by awful officiating (even though Eagles deserved to win). Bills game was just a dud -- think every team has had at least one this year. And the Chiefs game was somewhat competitive

They're in it as much as anyone pretty much

Top 5 team in the AFC along with the Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, and Jaguars

 

[raiders72]

Yep

The Dolphins certainly should be the favorites in the AFC East

And no one has played out of this world this season. No truly amazing team this year


People will rag on the Dolphins for just beating up on bad teams. To some extent that is fair

But they also have not been at home any of those games. The Philly game was strongly influenced by awful officiating (even though Eagles deserved to win). Bills game was just a dud -- think every team has had at least one this year. And the Chiefs game was somewhat competitive

They're in it as much as anyone pretty much

Top 5 team in the AFC along with the Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, and Jaguars

Buf would be favored over Mia on a neutral field as of today. Schedule favors Mia to win the division. Buf #2 in the league net points behind Bal.

 

[raiders72]

 

[Avocado33]

Buf would be favored over Mia on a neutral field as of today. Schedule favors Mia to win the division. Buf #2 in the league net points behind Bal.

Bills have been near the top in point differential last 2 seasons (think they've been ahead of KC and Cincy both years).

How has that worked out for them?

Bills can beat up on an inferior opponent/front run. Reality is they had a 3-game stretch that has inflated their numbers. They are not that good this year, and they're not trending in the right direction

0-5 last 5 against the spread BTW. That Dolphins game was the last time they covered I believe.

And yes, the schedule very important and a favors Miami