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Again, not a perfect stat. It way overvalues running; Allen SHOULD rank ahead of a guy like Burrow in that


Example from a week in 2021:

Zach Wilson 14/22 101 yards, 1 TD/0 INT; 4 rush, 91 yards, 1 TD
Joe Burrow 37/46 525 yards, 4 TD/0 INT

Zach Wilson 92.4 QBR
Joe Burrow 89.3 QBR


Analytics only go so far. This is why you have to watch the games. No one could watch that game last night and be like, "Yeah, Allen is better than Burrow."

It wasn't even close
And if you watched Burrow the first few games, you would come away thinking he sucks. You can't watch one game and assess a QB for the year. There are only 3 QBs in the league that can carry a team. Allen, Burrow, Mahomes.
 

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And if you watched Burrow the first few games, you would come away thinking he sucks. You can't watch one game and assess a QB for the year. There are only 3 QBs in the league that can carry a team. Allen, Burrow, Mahomes.
If you watched Burrow first few games, you would come away with thinking he was injured. Because he was. That was the reason he sucked, it's very obvious

I've watched more than one game and am basing my judgment off of the last 2+ seasons.

Mahomes and Burrow are hands down better quarterbacks than Allen.

Allen is better at running, I'll give him that. He's also better at flopping and bitching to the refs than the other two.

The one game thing is referring to Allen fan boys like Sheriff Joe who call Burrow "average"
 

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If you watched Burrow first few games, you would come away with thinking he was injured. Because he was. That was the reason he sucked, it's very obvious

I've watched more than one game and am basing my judgment off of the last 2+ seasons.

Mahomes and Burrow are hands down better quarterbacks than Allen.

Allen is better at running, I'll give him that. He's also better at flopping and bitching to the refs than the other two.

The one game thing is referring to Allen fan boys like Sheriff Joe who call Burrow "average"
Mahomes hasn't been anything special this year. The D is allowing 15 points per game, the OL , D and TE are elite. If you take the whole year into consideration, Allen has played the best football between the 3 and this also includes going by the eye test.
 

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Allen wouldn't fit well on a Shanahan offense.

Allen isn't great if he is on a leash and can't run. And he makes too many mistakes

Shanahan wouldn't let him do that
He'd kick ass in that system...the weapons avaliable, he's asked to do too much in Buffalo.
 

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Lamar Jackson is playing at a high level this year but he's still below the 3 above.
 

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He'd kick ass in that system...the weapons avaliable, he's asked to do too much in Buffalo.
Lol bullshit.

He wouldn't know how to use those weapons. He'd start chucking the ball to Aiyuk 40 yards down the field with Kittle wide open over the middle or McCaffery in the flat. Or he'd start running wrecklessly. He'll throw a ball as hard as he can and break Deebo's hands

Allen is as good as he is statistically because he's allowed to roam free and make plays with his feet.

If he's asked to just sit in the pocket, get the ball out quick and not make mistakes, he's not good at all. Very average.

A guy like Burrow would be great in SF though.
 

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Lol bullshit.

He wouldn't know how to use those weapons. He'd start chucking the ball to Aiyuk 40 yards down the field with Kittle wide open over the middle or McCaffery in the flat. Or he'd start running wrecklessly. He'll throw a ball as hard as he can and break Deebo's hands

Allen is as good as he is statistically because he's allowed to roam free and make plays with his feet.

If he's asked to just sit in the pocket, get the ball out quick and not make mistakes, he's not good at all. Very average.

A guy like Burrow would be great in SF though.
That's not true. Allen can be great with quick release. That was the game plan last year vs. Aaron Donald. Allen has tools to play in any system or whatever the game plan calls for. Mia and SF can cover for bad QBs because of the system and weapons. It doesn't mean guys in other systems wouldn't thrive with Mia and SF.
 

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That's not true. Allen can be great with quick release. That was the game plan last year vs. Aaron Donald. Allen has tools to play in any system or whatever the game plan calls for.
Allen is not a top tier QB in the league if he's reduced to a pocket passer. He's improved his accuracy, but he isn't close to Burrow and Mahomes in that regard still. And he doesn't have the touch that those guys have.

You can only improve that so much, especially the touch part. Even some of his completions, it's like "WTF is he throwing that ball like a rocket for?".

He could "work" in any system because he has talent, but it's a waste of his strengths as a player. It's just not a good fit. Lamar would be the same.

Allen gets the stats he does because he plays loose and free and he can run. The 49ers won't let any quarterback do that
 

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Maybe the Bills fire McD and then go out and get Jim Harbaugh

Make Buffalo a complete circus
 

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Maybe the Bills fire McD and then go out and get Jim Harbaugh

Make Buffalo a complete circus
Don't put Mahomes in the same sentence as Burrow as far as pocket passers. Mahomes is not that accurate with great ball placement in the pocket. Mahomes makes his money extending plays. Mahomes and Allen play the same style. Burrow plays a totally different style. Allen is now more accurate with better ball placement than Mahomes. That wasn't the case their first few years when Allen was wild.
 

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Jesus Christ lol
I don't know what games you've been watching the last 2 years. Allen worked on mechanics first couple years. After that all he did is work on ball placement. Now he's elite with ball placement.
 

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I don't know what games you've been watching the last 2 years. Allen worked on mechanics first couple years. After that all he did is work on ball placement. Now he's elite with ball placement.
Difference between working/improving on it, and being better than Mahomes at it lol
 

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Allen completion percentage 71.3% without all the touch and shovel passes. His incompletions are throwaways. He does have bonehead plays now and then but he's more accurate than Mahomes and I'm serious. Allen was one of the worst and he's become one of the best.
 

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Allen completion percentage 71.3% without all the touch and shovel passes. His incompletions are throwaways. He does have bonehead plays now and then.
He's dumping it a lot more than he used to. But his % is starting to come down a bit even so.
 

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You say you watch the games. Allen has become deadly accurate.
He's improved a lot from what he used to be, which is not saying much since he was so bad his first couple of years in that department

He's been close to the same for a few years now though

Puts too much on the ball, has pretty crappy touch on intermediate throws. That's hard to improve on though

And he still makes dumb decisions
 

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