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This is outrageous. Our nation's highest law-enforcement officer is issuing threats and intimidation over a law he has not read.


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Immigration law falls under federal code, so immigration enforcement falls under the federal government's domain. But several states and local municipalities have taken immigration enforcement into their own hands by passing legislation that prevents illegal aliens from accessing certain public benefits, i.e., in-state tuition rates and driver's licenses.

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California City Says "No" to Illegal Aliens

Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 2:20 PM EDT - posted on NumbersUSA</SPAN>

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The City Council of Costa Mesa, California, has approved a resolution declaring it would not be a sanctuary city for illegal aliens. The resolution, proposed by Mayor Allan Mansoor, declares Costa Mesa a 'Rule of Law City." Mansoor said:
The resolution states that Costa Mesa is not a sanctuary city and that it is in fact a rule-of-law city when it comes to support for upholding immigration laws
Mansoor has also proposed forcing employers to use the E-Verify system, verify the immigration status of those seeking business licenses, and determine why police sometimes accept the unofficial matricula consular id card issued by the Mexican government. He also said:
It's important for the public to know that form of ID is being used and accepted, and it raises questions as to why they don’t have driver’s licenses, a passport or some type of ID that says they have a legal right to work here.​
Not everyone, however, is pleased with the decision. Silvia Hernandez, who spoke against the resolution, told the LA Times:
Immigrants are part of America.... We work, pay taxes, go to church and participate in our communities. We need a solution that brings people out of the shadows.​
Click here to read more about the Costa Mesa City Council's decision.











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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Troy3297 of UT: Way to go Costa Mesa, California needs more of that same action. Maybe if they straighten it out I would vacation there again.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Thu 05/20 8:32am


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Kathleen9822 of WA: What Silvia Hernadez failed to get was "legal" immigrants, I guess to her sneaking across the border is ok, no biggie. I guess it's race above all else.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Thu 05/20 4:25am


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Kenneth5141 of CA: WAY TO GO COSTA MESA!… Show More WAY TO GO COSTA MESA! I hope more cities her in CA will follow suit after they read Section 834b of the CA Penal Code, listed below:834b of the California Penal Code that deals with immigration law enforcement at the local level.(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited. Show LessReply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 10:17pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Carrie9668 of AZ: Costa Mesa - WAY TO GO! AZ is behind you all the way! Since our law was passed our illegals are going to be high tailing it to CA!!! Enough is enough!!!Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 9:31pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Don9868 of IN: Thank you Costa Mesa! Finally some sanity out of California.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 9:03pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Tom4569 of CO: Yes, bring them out of the shadows, round them up and deport them.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 8:50pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Aaron8129 of ID: Well said Roger!!Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 7:28pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Aaron8129 of ID: Way to Go Costa Mesa! Now if the rest of California's cities and towns would follow their example instead of LA's!The same for cities and towns throughout the USA too!!Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 7:11pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Ralph7980 of CO: We brought people out of the shadows in 1986. But all that did was to encourage more people to sneak in and seek out the shadows again. How many times will we be expected to do this? The same tired old rhetoric is being recycled.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 6:51pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Gary3222 of AL: Califonia residents sue the State of California and Los Angeles under Title 8 Section 1324 of the United States Cide which states aiding,abetting,encouraging,harboring,transporting,and hiring illegals is a felony.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 6:39pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Kenneth5141 of CA: While they are at it, sue the Police for not upholding their duty in regards to Section 834b of the CA Penal Code: 834b of the California Penal Code that deals with immigration law enforcement at the local level.(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is sus… Show More While they are at it, sue the Police for not upholding their duty in regards to Section 834b of the CA Penal Code: 834b of the California Penal Code that deals with immigration law enforcement at the local level.(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited. Show LessReply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 10:21pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Jack7364 of MI: Wow! Way to go Costa Mesa. Take back your city and make the taxpayers want to stay.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 6:15pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Kathleen4588 of CA: Go Costa Mesa! Immigrants ARE part of America - the LEGAL immigrants. Once you get here illegally you aren't "legal" - you are still illegal so I won't ever categorize you with those who followed the rules and came here legally. It would be a dishonor to do so.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 5:20pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Robert7362 of CA: "Illegal" aliens are what we are trying to combat! Mexican immigrants are too sympathetic to care about the law or even protecting our country for that matter. There is no where left to run, though and My question is where will you move to after you destroy this country and it is just like Mexico? You will have to excuse me, I love my country and I do not want it turned into Mexico.… Show More "Illegal" aliens are what we are trying to combat! Mexican immigrants are too sympathetic to care about the law or even protecting our country for that matter. There is no where left to run, though and My question is where will you move to after you destroy this country and it is just like Mexico? You will have to excuse me, I love my country and I do not want it turned into Mexico. It seems like all the Mexicans want to come her, why not make Mexico the 51st State? Show LessReply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 5:16pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Elena9645 of OR: "Immigrants are part of America", she says. So are rapists and murderers should we open the prison doors? If you start ignoring one law, then you are going to start a chain reaction.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 5:08pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Albert3441 of PA: Once again, we are hearing the argument that illegal aliens are entitled to live in our country and receive public services because they allegedly work and pay taxes. Who says they are entitled to do that?… Show More Once again, we are hearing the argument that illegal aliens are entitled to live in our country and receive public services because they allegedly work and pay taxes. Who says they are entitled to do that? The American people do not want illegal aliens to pay taxes on their illegally earned wages nor do they not want a “cut” of that ill-gotten gain (it would be a pennywise and pound-foolish bargain, anyway). What they want is for citizens of other countries to respect our national sovereignty and obey our laws, which means leaving this country immediately if they do not have a valid visa. Asserting that illegal aliens should be granted the right to stay in the US because of their “contributions” is like saying that the “squeegee men” in New York City are entitled to demand money from drivers whose windows they wash whether the drivers want the service or not. Like the squeegee business, illegal immigration is nothing more than an extortion racket that no responsible government would tolerate. Show LessReply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 4:43pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Harry5270 of CA: Lets all pressurize our city councils in California, to approve similar measure. I hope this movement continues. This is very important for our next generation kids otherwise nothing will be left for them ..punishment for abiding by law??Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 4:08pm


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<!--avatar photo-->Report <!--report link-->New Roger8615 of CA: Silvia you are wrong. We have laws and you sound like you have brokenthe one of being in the country illegally. Yes immigrants are a part of are country, "legal ones" and for being in the shadows where have you been. Did you see the marches. Go back to your illegal activist friends and get a new hand book.Reply <!--reply link-->Posted Wed 05/19 3:57pm http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/may-19-2010/california-city-says-no-illegal-aliens.html
 
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Heres your answer from NumbersUSA helpdesk

You never answered my question about needing immigration to secure fiscal commitments to our aging population... i await your answer old friend.
We could absolutely eliminate immigration today and our population will continue to
grow for at least 10 years, especially among young adults.

Proponents of mass-immigration often attempt to instill fear into the debate by saying we
will not have enough young people to replace older Americans when they retire. Try
telling that right now to over 20 million unemployed Americans, including naturalized
citizens.

We can reduce (note reduce, not eliminate) immigration and make a smooth transition into
a more stable population size while helping those on the lowest rungs of the economic
ladder achieve a higher quality of life.
 

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We could absolutely eliminate immigration today and our population will continue to
grow for at least 10 years, especially among young adults.

Proponents of mass-immigration often attempt to instill fear into the debate by saying we
will not have enough young people to replace older Americans when they retire. Try
telling that right now to over 20 million unemployed Americans, including naturalized
citizens.

We can reduce (note reduce, not eliminate) immigration and make a smooth transition into
a more stable population size while helping those on the lowest rungs of the economic
ladder achieve a higher quality of life.

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Fear? They have unemployment at 20 million which is 25% more then it currently is or has been EVER!

And as far as 10 years, what happens after? The baby boomers dont get paid still? and once they deplete the system, what do we do?

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And how do you suppose we help the lower on the latter achieve this? MAKE them work? I have news for you and that desk, there are alot of trialer parks and ghettos and projects full of people who DONT GIVE A FUCK. How do we all of sudden make them care? Do you know how much money per hour it would take some of these people to recoup the same benifits by working? its staggering.

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Write them a letter Fletchrism...Address is at their website or on various posts here.....After all your the expert on this subject.
 

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Write them a letter Fletchrism...Address is at their website or on various posts here.....After all your the expert on this subject.

Shouldnt you have some responsibility in what you post? If you post something, shouldnt you at least have an idea what it says? Seems to me your the ultimate boot licking son of a gun i ever met. A complete yes man who like some grunt copys and pastes W/O any idea of what he is doing. Like your following orders. Is it safe to say, if they are posting wrong info and you dont know what you are talking about... maybe then just maybe you could be wrong? Or at least skewed?

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Shouldnt you have some responsibility in what you post? If you post something, shouldnt you at least have an idea what it says? Seems to me your the ultimate boot licking son of a gun i ever met. A complete yes man who like some grunt copys and pastes W/O any idea of what he is doing. Like your following orders. Is it safe to say, if they are posting wrong info and you dont know what you are talking about... maybe then just maybe you could be wrong? Or at least skewed?

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You'd make a good politician because Ive read a lot of your posts & you straddle the fence more than carters has pills especially during your drinking spells....At least if I don't know what Im talking about or am posting so called wrong info...I dont waver & thats more I can say for you dude....I post what the hell I want to post (& believe me I post 95% what I believe is true) & not listen to tools like you...I answered your question the best I could so kindly go away youre being a typical PA pest.
 

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You'd make a good politician because Ive read a lot of your posts & you straddle the fence more than carters has pills especially during your drinking spells....At least if I don't know what Im talking about or am posting so called wrong info...I dont waver & thats more I can say for you dude....I post what the hell I want to post (& believe me I post 95% what I believe is true) & not listen to tools like you...I answered your question the best I could so kindly go away youre being a typical PA pest.

You avoided my questions, and im not a drinker, that was just another of your empty assumptions. Take a look at what i post. I never waiver, because when i speak im right... or i wont speak up. If i was wrong, i would admit it. But im not. You are, or at least your dodging my questions for that very reason. If you cant point to one post of mine that has me "straddling the fence" ill just have to refer to you as a liar and a no good dirty son of a bitch. Dont get your website to bat for you, and they were DEAD WRONG!!!! You answer, you never answered anything to the best of your abiltity...you ran and hid behind some rubbish website. So man up RR, or ill have to assume you are a dirty rat as well as being a lair and a dirty son of a bitch.

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You avoided my questions, and im not a drinker, that was just another of your empty assumptions. Take a look at what i post. I never waiver, because when i speak im right... or i wont speak up. If i was wrong, i would admit it. But im not. You are, or at least your dodging my questions for that very reason. If you cant point to one post of mine that has me "straddling the fence" ill just have to refer to you as a liar and a no good dirty son of a bitch. Dont get your website to bat for you, and they were DEAD WRONG!!!! You answer, you never answered anything to the best of your abiltity...you ran and hid behind some rubbish website. So man up RR, or ill have to assume you are a dirty rat as well as being a lair and a dirty son of a bitch.

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How did I avoid the question?...I couldnt answer it so I asked somebody else for help answering it nothing wrong with that even from a so called rubbish website...Your a pig.
 
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http://www.facebook.com/# Stand With Arizona (and Against Illegal Immigration) Ah, those wonderful illegal alien "day laborers". Doing the jobs Americans won't do...like sociopathic hit-and-runs, flinging victims off his hood like "debris" before taking off.
(Highlight: Kudos to WCBS for at least identifying the vile creep as an "illegal alien" from Guatemala. Usually we have to wait weeks to read about their ide...ntity on a conservative blog)See More


Driver Hits 4 Teens, Treats Them Like 'Debris' - wcbstv.com
wcbstv.com They were clinging to the top of the hood, screaming for their lives, and police say they were treated like debris. Stunning revelations surfaced Thursday about the driver in the hit-and-run crash that seriously injured four high school students who were heading to the mall. http://wcbstv.com/local/hit.and.run.2.1706271.html
 
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