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[Acebb]

I believe the leading cause of death in America is heart disease. We aren't comparing heart disease to a preventable death like murder are we?

I mention Sandy Hook all the time because it was the most horrific crime ever committed by gun in our nation's history. It literally should've changed the landscape of gun ownership in our country. It was the worst of the worst. I realized after that day if these innocent kids could be slaughtered in their classroom as they were learning how to read and we did nothing about it, gun control laws in this country will never change. There are no lessons learned and it's as if what happened there was the status quo.

[h=2]Strategies to prevent heart disease[/h]
I think you keep referencing Sandy Hook because there is really no logic to the position of Sandy Hook = out of control gun crime.

It is an anomaly committed by a complete nut who committed multiple state & federal felonies prior to even firing a shot in the school.

You're merely offering generalizations ("do something about it!" - do what _____ exactly?) and I think you want to say guns or types of guns should be banned but another part of you realizes that isn't a real solution.

 

[Acebb]

And yet Chicago, a city with no civilian gun ranges and bans on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, finds itself laboring to stem a flood of gun violence that contributed to more than 500 homicides last year and at least 40 killings already in 2013, including a fatal shooting of a 15-year-old girl on Tuesday.

Note: Chicago passed a ban on handgun ownership in 1982 and to this day you can not purchase a firearm in the city of Chicago as there are zero gun shops.

 

[Acebb]

The D.C. gun ban, enacted in 1976, prohibited anyone other than law-<wbr>enforcement officers from carrying a firearm in the city. Violent crime increased after the law was enacted, with homicides rising to 369 in 1988, from 188 in 1976 when the ban started. By 1993, annual homicides had reached 454.

Since the ban was passed, more than 8,400 people have been murdered in the district [2008 figures, ban was struck down that year].
The year after the Supreme Court struck down the District of Columbia’s handgun ban and gun-lock requirements, the capital city’s murder rate dropped 25%.


There have been about the same # of people murdered in Chicago by guns since their gun ban was enacted. Note that the 2nd largest city in ILL had zero murders in 2012 despite having no gun ban.

The fact of the matter there are zero gun control success stories in America. None.

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[The Guesser]

The D.C. gun ban, enacted in 1976, prohibited anyone other than law-<wbr>enforcement officers from carrying a firearm in the city. Violent crime increased after the law was enacted, with homicides rising to 369 in 1988, from 188 in 1976 when the ban started. By 1993, annual homicides had reached 454.

Since the ban was passed, more than 8,400 people have been murdered in the district [2008 figures, ban was struck down that year].
The year after the Supreme Court struck down the District of Columbia’s handgun ban and gun-lock requirements, the capital city’s murder rate dropped 25%.


There have been about the same # of people murdered in Chicago by guns since their gun ban was enacted. Note that the 2nd largest city in ILL had zero murders in 2012 despite having no gun ban.

The fact of the matter there are zero gun control success stories in America. None.

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I see Ace does nothing but Lie up here also. No surprise. Continue destroying the liar up here, Vit. We sane ones in the hellhole downstairs will continue exposing him in your absence.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/the-data-is-clear-gun-control-works/Content?oid=2319436
"A perfect example of the effectiveness of gun laws is the state of Hawaii. That state has some of the country’s strictest gun laws and, as an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, it is perhaps the hardest state to transport out-of-state weapons to. Hawaii had the country’s lowest rate of gun deaths per 100,000 residents in 2011, FBI data show."

 

[Acebb]

I see Ace does nothing but Lie up here also. No surprise. Continue destroying the liar up here, Vit. We sane ones in the hellhole downstairs will continue exposing him in your absence.

Except you have the problem pointing to any actual "lies."

But hey, go on pretending that an island in the middle of the pacific constitutes a win for gun laws.

Maybe we can build a moat around Chicago?

idiot.

 

[Acebb]

I see Ace does nothing but Lie up here also. No surprise. Continue destroying the liar up here, Vit. We sane ones in the hellhole downstairs will continue exposing him in your absence.

Note that "vit" has done nothing but name call and comically said that the # of violent crimes and deaths by firearm have nothing to do with the topic of gun control.

Why did you post FBI data about gun deaths? Or is "vit", wrong?

Don't worry, we all know what a dimwit "vit" is.

 

[Acebb]

When you've been reduced to pointing out that Hawaii is an island and it has strict gun control laws as an example of a gun control success story, you're either dishonest or stupid.

Anyway,
*Homicide rates in the United States are lower now than they have been at almost any time in the last century, having fallen by more than 50% since 1991.

*Mass shootings, even using the very broad definition employed by the FBI, make up a tiny fraction of homicides – usually less than one percent

When people say "gun violence in America is out of control" I don't think they realize that 0.0015% of Americans are victims of violent crime (rape, murder, attempted murder, aggravated assault) with a firearm.

 

[ZJP6050]

not far from where i'm from. murrysville is a good area.

 

[Acebb]

Police Officer William "Buzz" Yakshe, who also serves as a resource officer at the school, helped subdue the suspect, said Dan Stevens, the county deputy emergency management coordinator. Yakshe is "doing fine," Stevens said. "He's more upset than anything else over what happened, because these are his kids."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/09/justice/pennsylvania-school-stabbing/

I still am not sure if the security guard had a gun. If he is an active duty police officer I would think so...

They charged the 16 year as an adult and he's being held without bail.

 

[Enfuego]

I don't live my daily life in fear that some nut is going to shoot up a mall with a gun.

Isn't this type of "logic" fun?

Well, that's the point. If you don't live in fear, why the need to own or carry a gun to begin with?

 

[goin4broke]

:sadbb: :headbeat:

 

[Acebb]

Well, that's the point. If you don't live in fear, why the need to own or carry a gun to begin with?

That's actually quite funny.

 

[Acebb]

By the way, at the time of the Sandy Hook murders, Connecticut already had some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

Of course all we need are more laws!

 

[Cyyyyk]

The left wingers argument that if guns were universally banned in the US that we would see a huge decline in gun violence is almost certainly true. I lived in Latvia for 10 years where it is almost impossible to get a gun and indeed most people have to settle for stabling each other or baseball bats.

What the left wingers fail to understand is that if we allow the government to take away the fundamental right to defend oneself....... then at that point we become wards of the state. Gun ownership is the most important of all the Bill of Rights as the right to defend yourself from tyranny is the the protection for all the other rights. Obviously given the massive out of control big government nightmare that we live in it seems a bit late to worry about these things..... but widespread gun ownership is pretty much the only thing separating us from a full blown Stalinist style police state.

 

[vitterd]

I am being serious when I say this, you are the most dimwitted person that I've seen post here.

You quite literally can not read and comprehend basic sentences.

It is comical to watch you come apart at the seems. Complaining about my name calling when you do it in almost every post towards me.

Your meaningless stats do not tell how many murders strict gun control prevents. Your tiny brain cannot think beyond what the nra tells you. I believe you are the biggest moron here

 

[vitterd]

I see Ace does nothing but Lie up here also. No surprise. Continue destroying the liar up here, Vit. We sane ones in the hellhole downstairs will continue exposing him in your absence.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/the-data-is-clear-gun-control-works/Content?oid=2319436
"A perfect example of the effectiveness of gun laws is the state of Hawaii. That state has some of the country’s strictest gun laws and, as an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, it is perhaps the hardest state to transport out-of-state weapons to. Hawaii had the country’s lowest rate of gun deaths per 100,000 residents in 2011, FBI data show."

Ace has been exposed as a liar and the most uninformed fool in rx hisory.

 

[Acebb]

I
Your meaningless stats do not tell how many murders strict gun control prevents. Your tiny brain cannot think beyond what the nra tells you. I believe you are the biggest moron here

Uh, I never said the statistics tell how many "murders strict gun control prevents"

Or are you just showing everyone yet again you can not read?

There are no, zero, statistics telling "how many murders strict gun control prevents"

Idiot.

 

[Acebb]

Ace has been exposed as a liar and the most uninformed fool in rx hisory.

Except you have a problem pointing out any "lie" I've ever told and you have the problem of you demonstrating you have no reading comprehension abilities.

What is funny, however, about your moronic post is you're quoting a post with statistics you said 2 minutes prior were "meaningless"

You're not an idiot or anything.

Really.

 

[Acebb]

It is comical to watch you come apart at the seems. Complaining about my name calling when you do it in almost every post towards me.

Your meaningless stats do not tell how many murders strict gun control prevents. Your tiny brain cannot think beyond what the nra tells you. I believe you are the biggest moron here

I am not "complaining" about your name calling. I pointed out that you know nothing of the topic and that is all you do is name call.

That is not a "complaint" - it is a criticism. You do understand those words have two different meanings, right? Or are you going to go on and continue showing everyone you're basically illiterate?

 

[Acebb]

Your meaningless stats do not tell how many murders strict gun control prevents.

The guesser posted meaningless stats that do not tell how many murders strict gun control prevents.

So what did you quote them?