World Series Of Poker Thread - Schedule etc.

[krackman]

Will- This guy John(Flakes) is a good guy too. Glad flakes won he has more gamble in him then most of the field put together.

BTW- Nice thread thanks!

 

[wilheim]

Krackman - thanks. I understand flakes is not bashful betting when he has a pool cue in his hand.

wil.

 

[Pokerking]

Pinnacle haWorld Series of Poker: WSOP Odds to Make the Final Table
Sat 5/22 Odds to Make the Final Table (WSOP) (Final 9)
Maximum Wager: 300.00 USD
12:00 PM 1 Adam Schoenfield +4350 Risk To Win
2 Alan Boston +3000 Risk To Win
3 Alan Goehring +3600 Risk To Win
4 Alex Brenes +3500 Risk To Win
5 Allen Cunningham +3500 Risk To Win
6 Amarillo Slim Preston +6666 Risk To Win
7 Amir Vahedi +4000 Risk To Win
8 An Tran +5100 Risk To Win
9 Andrew Bloch +5100 Risk To Win
10 Annie Duke +3450 Risk To Win
11 Antonio Esfandiari +3200 Risk To Win
12 Asher Derei +4700 Risk To Win
13 Barney Boatman +4700 Risk To Win
14 Barry Greenstein +2100 Risk To Win
15 Barry Shulman +4550 Risk To Win
16 Ben Affleck +5555 Risk To Win
17 Ben Roberts +4700 Risk To Win
18 Berry Johnston +4000 Risk To Win
19 Bill Duarte +3450 Risk To Win
20 Bill Purle +4550 Risk To Win
21 Billy Baxter +3450 Risk To Win
22 Billy Gazes +3333 Risk To Win
23 Billy Argyros +4444 Risk To Win
24 Bobby Hoff +3600 Risk To Win
25 Bruce Atkinson +5100 Risk To Win
26 Bruno Fitoussi +4000 Risk To Win
27 Carlos Mortenson +3400 Risk To Win
28 Chip Jett +3600 Risk To Win
29 Chris Bigler +4600 Risk To Win
30 Chris Bjorin +4000 Risk To Win
31 Chris Ferguson +3600 Risk To Win
32 Chris Moneymaker +4800 Risk To Win
33 Christer Johansson +4250 Risk To Win
34 Claude Cohen +5700 Risk To Win
35 Dan Harrington +3550 Risk To Win
36 Dan Heimiller +4550 Risk To Win
37 Daniel Negreanu +2000 Risk To Win
38 David Ulliot +2780 Risk To Win
39 David Benyamine +3450 Risk To Win
40 Chip Reese +3110 Risk To Win
41 David Chiu +3000 Risk To Win
42 David Colclough +4550 Risk To Win
43 David Plastik +4000 Risk To Win
44 David Singer +4000 Risk To Win
45 David Sklansky +4550 Risk To Win
46 Dewey Tomko +3450 Risk To Win
47 Dewey Weum +4000 Risk To Win
48 Donn Odea +4000 Risk To Win
49 Doyle Brunson +4444 Risk To Win
50 Erik Lindgren +2200 Risk To Win
51 Erik Seidel +2200 Risk To Win
52 Frank Callaghan +5100 Risk To Win
53 Freedy Deep +3450 Risk To Win
54 Gary Bush +4550 Risk To Win
55 Gary Jones +3450 Risk To Win
56 George McKeever +5110 Risk To Win
57 Gus Hansen +1777 Risk To Win
58 Harley Hall +5110 Risk To Win
59 Harry Demetriou +3400 Risk To Win
60 Hasan Habib +3110 Risk To Win
61 Herschel Zeluski +5700 Risk To Win
62 Howard Lederer +2000 Risk To Win
63 Huck Seed +3050 Risk To Win
64 Humberto Brenes +3333 Risk To Win
65 Ivo Donev +5700 Risk To Win
66 Jack Fox +4550 Risk To Win
67 James Hoeppner +5800 Risk To Win
68 Jan Boubli +4444 Risk To Win
69 Jan Lundberg +5800 Risk To Win
70 Jan Sjavik +5800 Risk To Win
71 Jay Heimowitz +4000 Risk To Win
72 Jeff Shulman +4000 Risk To Win
73 Jennifer Harmon +3450 Risk To Win
74 Jesse Jones +4000 Risk To Win
75 Jim Bechtel +4550 Risk To Win
76 JJ Bortner +5700 Risk To Win
77 Joe Beevers +4000 Risk To Win
78 Johan Storakers +4000 Risk To Win
79 John Bonetti +4550 Risk To Win
80 John Esposito +4000 Risk To Win
81 John Juanda +2300 Risk To Win
82 John Shipley +5700 Risk To Win
83 Johnny Chan +2500 Risk To Win
84 Juha Helppi +4000 Risk To Win
85 Julian Gardner +4000 Risk To Win
86 Kathy Liebert +4000 Risk To Win
87 Keith Hawkins +5700 Risk To Win
88 Ken Lennaard +5110 Risk To Win
89 Ken Flaton +3450 Risk To Win
90 Kenna James +4550 Risk To Win
91 Kevin Song +4550 Risk To Win
92 Kiril Gerasimov +3500 Risk To Win
93 Larry Flynt +8888 Risk To Win
94 Layne Flack +3110 Risk To Win
95 Leonardo DiCaprio +8888 Risk To Win
96 Lyle Berman +4000 Risk To Win
97 Marty Wilson +5110 Risk To Win
98 Marc Seif +4550 Risk To Win
99 Marcel Luske +4000 Risk To Win
100 Mark Gregoritch +4550 Risk To Win
101 Martin de Knijff +3100 Risk To Win
102 Matt Damon +5700 Risk To Win
103 Max Pescatori +4600 Risk To Win
104 Mel Judah +3500 Risk To Win
105 Men Nguyen +3500 Risk To Win
106 John Cernuto +4000 Risk To Win
107 Mickey Appleman +3400 Risk To Win
108 Mickey Finn +5100 Risk To Win
109 Mike Carson +5700 Risk To Win
110 Mike Laing +4550 Risk To Win
111 Mike Magee +5700 Risk To Win
112 Mike Matusow +3100 Risk To Win
113 Mike Sexton +4250 Risk To Win
114 Minh Ly +4550 Risk To Win
115 Jim Meehan +5200 Risk To Win
116 Mohammed Ibrahim +4600 Risk To Win
117 Neil Channing +5700 Risk To Win
118 Nicky Katz +5150 Risk To Win
119 Noel Furlong +5150 Risk To Win
120 Oneil Longson +4000 Risk To Win
121 Padraig Parkinson +5150 Risk To Win
122 Pascal Perrault +5250 Risk To Win
123 Patrick Bruel +5000 Risk To Win
124 Paul Darden +4000 Risk To Win
125 Paul Clarck +4000 Risk To Win
126 Peter Costa +4000 Risk To Win
127 Peter Vilandros +4600 Risk To Win
128 Phil Gordon +3800 Risk To Win
129 Phil Hellmuth +1800 Risk To Win
130 Phil Ivey +1400 Risk To Win
131 Phillippe Marmorstein +4600 Risk To Win
132 Prahlad Friedman +2900 Risk To Win
133 Ralph Perry +4000 Risk To Win
134 Ram Vaswani +3550 Risk To Win
135 Randy Holland +3500 Risk To Win
136 Rob Hollink +4550 Risk To Win
137 Robert Williamson +4550 Risk To Win
138 Robert Varkonyi +5150 Risk To Win
139 Ron Rose +3950 Risk To Win
140 Ross Boatman +4550 Risk To Win
141 Roy Brindley +4550 Risk To Win
142 Russell Rosenblum +4550 Risk To Win
143 Sam Farha +3100 Risk To Win
144 Scott Gray +4000 Risk To Win
145 Scotty Nguyen +2350 Risk To Win
146 Sherkhan Fahnood +5150 Risk To Win
147 Sigi Sockinger +5150 Risk To Win
148 Simon Trumper +5700 Risk To Win
149 Steve Zolotow +3900 Risk To Win
150 Surindar Sunar +3450 Risk To Win
151 Chris Tsiprailidis +4550 Risk To Win
152 Ted Forrest +2850 Risk To Win
153 Thor Hansen +3400 Risk To Win
154 TJ Cloutier +1900 Risk To Win
155 Tom McEvoy +3450 Risk To Win
156 Tommy Venus +4550 Risk To Win
157 Tony Bloom +3450 Risk To Win
158 Tony Ma +4000 Risk To Win
159 Tony Popejoy +5700 Risk To Win
160 Toto Leonidas +3950 Risk To Win
161 Tristan McDonald +5700 Risk To Win
162 Hans Lund +3400 Risk To Win
163 Vinnie Vinh +3910 Risk To Win
164 Yosh Nakano +4000 Risk To Win
165 David Peckle Nguyen +5600 Risk To Win
166 Haralabos Voulgaris +3400 Risk To Win
167 Bill Krackomberger +6666 Risk To Win
168 Jason Kassel +5555 Risk To Win
169 Matt Szymasek +5000 Risk To Win
170 Dutch Boyd +4444 Risk To Win
171 Frank Oberg +4900 Risk To Win
172 Chris Bell +5600 Risk To Win
173 Jason J-Bird Brown +5600 Risk To Win
174 Wayne Bird Burgess +6700 Risk To Win
175 Bob Stupak +5555 Risk To Win
176 John Hennigan +2800 Risk To Win
177 Todd Brunson +3400 Risk To Win
178 David Grey +3900 Risk To Win
179 Sam Grizzle +4900 Risk To Win
180 Tobey Maguire +5600 Risk To Win
181 Bobby Baldwin +3400 Risk To Win
182 Paul Phillips +2200 Risk To Win
183 Mike Caro +3900 Risk To Win
184 Diego Cordovez +3400 Risk To Win
185 Cyndy Violette +3400 Risk To Win
186 Gabe Kaplan +4444 Risk To Win
187 Pepe Klinger +3900 Risk To Win
188 Mason Malmuth +4444 Risk To Win
189 Lee Salem +3900 Risk To Win
190 Max Stern +4444 Risk To Win
191 Steve Badger +3900 Risk To Win
192 Jerry Buss +6666 Risk To Win
193 Frank Mariani +6666 Risk To Win
194 Max Shapiro +5555 Risk To Win
195 Mike Kinney +3900 Risk To Win
196 Randy Jensen +3900 Risk To Win
197 Billy Duarte +3900 Risk To Win
198 Robert Bryant +5555 Risk To Win
199 Dustin Woolf +6666 Risk To Win
200 Jim Misiti +5555 Risk To Win
201 Steve Cowley +5555 Risk To Win
202 Hoyt Corkins +3000 Risk To Win
203 Scott Epstein +4200 Risk To Win
204 Can Kim Hua +3450 Risk To Win
205 Joe Cassidy +4444 Risk To Win
206 Aaron Katz +3900 Risk To Win
207 Joe Bartholdi +3900 Risk To Win
208 Ken Liu +5555 Risk To Win
209 Kevin Keller +5555 Risk To Win
210 Van Nguyen +5555 Risk To Win
211 Martin Feijo +5555 Risk To Win
212 Brent Carter +4444 Risk To Win
213 Danny Dang +4444 Risk To Win
214 Grant Pittman +5555 Risk To

 

[theswami]

I imagine there HAS to be value somewhere in this. The field will be 2000+, where are the NOT to make the final table bets.

 

[Pokerking]

You can bet the field to win the wsop at -293 now.

 

[wilheim]

Event #30 No-Limit Hold'em

Buy-In $3,000
Prize Pool $1,796,760
Entries 651

Winner Mike Sica (No. Brunswick N.J.) $503,160

 

[Matt24]

I got 2.40 on Ivey and 1.00 on Gus Hanson.

 

[wilheim]

138 Robert Varkonyi +5150 Risk To Win

From bracelet to dead money in two years.


wil.

 

[theswami]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Matt24:
I got 2.40 on Ivey and 1.00 on Gus Hanson.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Matt-

You bet on them to win or just make the final table?

These odds remind me of the odds the books laid for Tiger to win various majors a few years back. They were SOOOOOO horrible and yet folks still made the bets.

There will be over 2000 players at the WSOP and a pro has to gun through too many players to get there at the odds the books are laying. I would love to bet the field but I CANNOT imagine laying that much wood.

 

[winkyduck]

at olympic, i'm taking a shot with:

Phil Ivey +12500

 

[wilheim]

6 Amarillo Slim Preston +6666 Risk To Win

Slim is a bigger dog than Ben Affleck- wtf.

16 Ben Affleck +5555 Risk To Win

Both dead money I guess.


wil.

 

[Fishhead]

SLIM has NO CHANCE............he is senile for Godssakes!!

 

[wilheim]

I know Slim is old, so aren't all of the originals like Brunson and the rest. Sad to see him fall to worse odds than a half ass movie star.

wil.

 

[Fishhead]

Doyle is 9-1 over Slim...........Slim is senile Wil!

 

[wilheim]

Fish - I know, I'm (contrary to popular belief) not quite senile myself. Just pointing out how far the guy has fallen. I understand he is senile.


wil.

 

[Fishhead]

Ok, good enough.

Lets just cheer in PHIL to victory, shall we!

Thanks

 

[wilheim]

OK

wil.

 

[Horseshoe]

Senile or did you mean pedophile?

What ever came of accusations or his marriage?

Field is even monster chalk now.

Player vs Player are best values?

Oceans of talent in the field..total crapshoot.

The largest field by a country mile, coupled to the two year run of absolute no-name outta leftfield for title, as the hottest trend, suggests surprise again?

Though you have to like guys like Cloutier, Ivey, Negreanu, Brenes,etc..that have a seemingly nice ratio of aggression & patience, that make for some unchallenged takedowns, and are smart in picking their spots, thus seemingly better bets to last early without luck or getting bad cards..seem the safer chalk?

Bluffers like Scotty Nguyen, Farha,etc..can go out quick if sitting at the wrong table before being able to amass some chips..risky?

I can't bet Tiger at these Masters odds..even if he is wearing his lucky Wes Unseld Bullets jersey.

Lederer, Greenstein, or a "hot/in-form" earlier Event winner like Negreanu is a possibility?

How have past No Limit/Texas Hold Em winners fared to other same calendar WSOP Event wins during the past twenty years?

Can't wait for ESPN's new marathons this year!

[This message was edited by Horseshoe on May 21, 2004 at 12:39 AM.]

 

[wilheim]

Horseshoe - Here is a prop for you.

AGE Of WSOP FINAL WINNER

42 Years old on final day.

Over -110
Under -110

wil.

 

[Horseshoe]

Recent trend makes Under a steal?

How about Native North American born vs. Born abroad/World?

Female to make Final table odds?

Day 1 Over/Under prices?

Odds on amount of million dollar chip counts making final table?

Poker Gang head-to-head odds to last longest?

Jerry Buss vs Gabe Kaplan?