Not taking a side in all of this... but will point out Oregon usually has 3rd stringers in the 4th qtr of there blowouts and can't remember a game where they were up over two td's and punched in a late score when taking a knee was an option... If you want to say Oregon had it coming because of what they do you are misinformed... As far as the end of the 1st half the game was still in doubt and was trying to score before the half...what the hell is wrong with that ? and again I'm not crying sour grapes over a late score.. just defending what we do
Red....normally I may side with you but there was under a minute left in the 1H I believe. Urban was trying to run the clock to get to half. One shot the TV showed he was like wtf. If Oregon had a kicker that could kick a 50 yarder would be different. I was just throwing out an opinion. What I really think is he wanted Elliot to have another TD. Probably did it for his kids. Oregon had 2 time outs so who knows what would have happened after the end of the first half. One would believe that was still in Urban mind.
I come from the old school of thought. If you don't want to be scored on just stop it. The best coach I ever played for pulled a stunt like this one time and caught some shit about it. We were up like 42-3 (or something like that) and had the subs in mostly in the 2H. The team scored a TD with like 4 minutes left in game and then tried an onside. It pissed my coach off so bad he put the first team back in on both sides and we scored 2 more TDs late in the fourth exhausting all TOs. It was a dick move, but his reason was sound....he ask the papers where in the rule book did it state that you should allow a team to score while you kneeled on the ball. He said they had the same ability to kill the clock as we did.....which was the truth.
I am on the fence about this. There should be a definite sportsmanship to the game, but why blame a team that scores while the opposition chooses not to kneel on it in defeat as well.
I personally didn't have a problem with it because Oregon could have stopped them on the goal line and then they tried to move the ball in the air instead of running the clock as well at the end. I definitely can see both sides.
I come from the old school of thought. If you don't want to be scored on just stop it. The best coach I ever played for pulled a stunt like this one time and caught some shit about it. We were up like 42-3 (or something like that) and had the subs in mostly in the 2H. The team scored a TD with like 4 minutes left in game and then tried an onside. It pissed my coach off so bad he put the first team back in on both sides and we scored 2 more TDs late in the fourth exhausting all TOs. It was a dick move, but his reason was sound....he ask the papers where in the rule book did it state that you should allow a team to score while you kneeled on the ball. He said they had the same ability to kill the clock as we did.....which was the truth.
I am on the fence about this. There should be a definite sportsmanship to the game, but why blame a team that scores while the opposition chooses not to kneel on it in defeat as well.
I personally didn't have a problem with it because Oregon could have stopped them on the goal line and then they tried to move the ball in the air instead of running the clock as well at the end. I definitely can see both sides.
How 'bout the shit Les Miles took for having his players take a knee with what, 4 or 5 minutes to go, around the 10 yard line, and the game was so damn far in hand. And he takes unmitigated shit from the opposing coach...disrespect!!! YOU PLAY THE GAME.....if they'd been at the fifty, I'd say yeah, take a knee, but they're knocking on the door, the players want the score, ya don't deny them, and you give the opposing D a last chance to prove themselves.
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Second and goal from the three, and Elliot should have pulled a Marshall and headed the wrong way on a one way street??? 90% of the guys here can not be winning money, no way, no freakin how......This, Gentlemen, is why I enjoy the college hoops forum much better, the clowns are all in Florida on break during conference play.
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Which is exactly why Urban shouldn't have had an issue with it. Game was close and with lack of time, the play selection is very limited. This can often lead to a moment of backfire for the offense. I didn't see the wtf expression, but I find it hipocrital that Urban would have a problem with that then go ahead and score with 28 seconds.
