My dad plays in a weekly poker game. One of the players is a 70 -75 year old Rabbi. Rabbi is fairly orthodox and keeps kosher. He told the guys at the poker game Jews are misinformed about Barack. Rabbi doesn't think Barack will be good for Israel. I may be naive, but I totally disagreed. I was shocked to hear this. I think any president will be compassionate to Israels problems. Not that it really matters I'd like to hear some details why people think Barack will not be as good for Israel. To clarify about myself, I'm not religous at all. Havn't been to temple for over 25 years. Was Bar Mitzvah and 3 years of Hebrew School but thats about it. I do celebrate high holidays with family dinners or Saders but I don't keep kosher or attend Temple.
I believe in a national healthcare plan. Nobody should die because that can't afford treatment and medicine that would save their life. Thats how I feel. Luck & timing has alot to do with the status of many in this world. We should have compassion for the less fortunate and our domestic healthcare needs to be fixed, to help the less fortunate.
Take a look around and find me ONE thing i EVER posted about Obama that was ever in support of him. Ask anyone for the last year if i have ever said anything that supported him? So if your going to call me out on some bullshit, at least have enough peace of mind to know what the fuck your talking about, because you couldn't cite one fucking thing on the contrary.
Did i get "kicked off" ?
:lolBIG:
Hardly. As far as my relationship goes with Sharpmoves... i just quit because it was hard to find common ground with the man at the top. Just didnt see eye to eye anymore on some things and it was just best i did my own thing. Unlike BMac, i didnt get screwed over for money, just a difference of opinions. I still have a private group of guys, small, about 25-35 depending on the month and sport. Again, i could care less what people say about me based on my opinions but make sure you at least know them first. I have supported Ron Paul before it was "cool" to do so going on since about Feb '07.
Fletch, I too supported Ron Paul, and boy do we need him now.
Ron Paul is throwing up when he listens to Obama talk about Socialism, big govt, and his views on America
I know Ron Paul doesn't support McCain either, but trust me, Obama is as far away from what Ron Paul believes, other then his position on the Iraq War, as Stu Fiener is to you as a professional handicapper!:toast:
NO OBAMA!
Ron Paul is throwing up when he listens to Obama talk about Socialism, big govt, and his views on America
I know Ron Paul doesn't support McCain either, but trust me, Obama is as far away from what Ron Paul believes, other then his position on the Iraq War, as Stu Fiener is to you as a professional handicapper!:toast:
NO OBAMA!
Is there some major miss communication here with me and my political stance? Somehow i get labeled an Obama supporter alot of late. Has anyone not been paying attention to anything i have said over the least year? Im antisocialism on everything. The only thing liberal about me is my social beliefs witch are deff to the left, but those dont cost the tax paying base any money, in fact it would save money if you ended the war on drugs. Nice bit about Stu tohugh, what a sham. :missingte
Obama Camp Rejects Jackson's Claim That He Would Diminish 'Zionist' Influence
Barack Obama's campaign rejects Jesse Jackson's claim that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.
FOXNews.com
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/14/obama-camp-rejects-jacksons-claim-diminish-ionist-influence/
Barack Obama's campaign stepped in quickly Tuesday to distance itself from a claim by the Rev. Jesse Jackson that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.
The move was the latest chapter in what appears to be a protracted falling-out between the two Chicago figures -- each of whom represents a different age of political activism.
Jackson made the remarks to the World Policy Forum in France last week, according to The New York Post. The civil rights activist reportedly said that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose some of their influence with Obama in the White House, and that "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would come to a close.
Obama's campaign denied that assertion on Tuesday.
"Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. is not an adviser to the Obama campaign and is therefore in no position to interpret or share Barack Obama's views on Israel and foreign policy," Obama national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said in a statement.
"As he has made clear throughout his career and throughout this campaign, Barack Obama has a fundamental commitment to a strong U.S.-Israel relationship ... As president, he will ensure that Israel can defend itself from every threat it faces, stand with Israel in its quest for a secure peace with its neighbors, and use all elements of American power to end Iran's illicit nuclear program.
"No false charges can change Barack Obama's unshakeable commitment to Israel's security."
Jackson reportedly acknowledged that he was not an adviser to Obama, but rather a "supporter." But the words he used to describe their relationship suggest that he thinks he is much closer to Obama than the Obama campaign believes.
Jackson reportedly described Obama as a "neighbor or, better still, a member of the family."
John McCain's spokesman, Tucker Bounds, also reacted to Jackson's comments on Tuesday, saying: "Literally, nobody knows what Barack Obama's policies would be if he were elected president, but it's very concerning that people believe he will not be a friend to Israel."
In July, Jackson created a controversy when he was caught saying of Obama, "I want to cut his nuts off," in what he apparently thought was a private conversation preceding a FOX News interview. He was caught on an open microphone complaining that Obama was "talking down to black people."
Jackson apologized for the remark, and the Obama campaign said it accepted Jackson's apology.
Jesse Jackson: 'Zionists Who Control America' On the Way Out
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31566_Jesse_Jackson-_Zionists_Who_Control_America__On_the_Way_Out
Politics | Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:04:25 am PST
Amir Taheri talks with Jesse Jackson at the World Policy Forum in Evian, France: The O Jesse Knows.
Jesse says Barack Obama is going to really change things in America.
PREPARE for a new America: That’s the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.
He promised “fundamental changes” in US foreign policy - saying America must “heal wounds” it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the “arrogance of the Bush administration.”
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.
Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
“Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.”
Barack Obama's campaign rejects Jesse Jackson's claim that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.
FOXNews.com
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/14/obama-camp-rejects-jacksons-claim-diminish-ionist-influence/
Barack Obama's campaign stepped in quickly Tuesday to distance itself from a claim by the Rev. Jesse Jackson that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.
The move was the latest chapter in what appears to be a protracted falling-out between the two Chicago figures -- each of whom represents a different age of political activism.
Jackson made the remarks to the World Policy Forum in France last week, according to The New York Post. The civil rights activist reportedly said that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose some of their influence with Obama in the White House, and that "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would come to a close.
Obama's campaign denied that assertion on Tuesday.
"Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. is not an adviser to the Obama campaign and is therefore in no position to interpret or share Barack Obama's views on Israel and foreign policy," Obama national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said in a statement.
"As he has made clear throughout his career and throughout this campaign, Barack Obama has a fundamental commitment to a strong U.S.-Israel relationship ... As president, he will ensure that Israel can defend itself from every threat it faces, stand with Israel in its quest for a secure peace with its neighbors, and use all elements of American power to end Iran's illicit nuclear program.
"No false charges can change Barack Obama's unshakeable commitment to Israel's security."
Jackson reportedly acknowledged that he was not an adviser to Obama, but rather a "supporter." But the words he used to describe their relationship suggest that he thinks he is much closer to Obama than the Obama campaign believes.
Jackson reportedly described Obama as a "neighbor or, better still, a member of the family."
John McCain's spokesman, Tucker Bounds, also reacted to Jackson's comments on Tuesday, saying: "Literally, nobody knows what Barack Obama's policies would be if he were elected president, but it's very concerning that people believe he will not be a friend to Israel."
In July, Jackson created a controversy when he was caught saying of Obama, "I want to cut his nuts off," in what he apparently thought was a private conversation preceding a FOX News interview. He was caught on an open microphone complaining that Obama was "talking down to black people."
Jackson apologized for the remark, and the Obama campaign said it accepted Jackson's apology.
Jesse Jackson: 'Zionists Who Control America' On the Way Out
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31566_Jesse_Jackson-_Zionists_Who_Control_America__On_the_Way_Out
Politics | Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:04:25 am PST
Amir Taheri talks with Jesse Jackson at the World Policy Forum in Evian, France: The O Jesse Knows.
Jesse says Barack Obama is going to really change things in America.
PREPARE for a new America: That’s the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.
He promised “fundamental changes” in US foreign policy - saying America must “heal wounds” it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the “arrogance of the Bush administration.”
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where “decades of putting Israel’s interests first” would end.
Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
“Obama is about change,” Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. “And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it.”
i dont need a fuckin explanation.that is his opinion.this election is about our future.not israel.the problem with this country is our neverending need to meddle in everbodys business instead of taking care of our own.this is what weakens us as a nation.read your fuckin history.whats really fucked up is that nobody can be president unless they promise to obliterate anybody that talks bad about israel.that,i find really sad.
