Which would you choose....

[slapshot]

clearly A if you win




10 wagers @ -110 for $100 each

Win 8 = $800
Lose 2 = $220
Profit = $580

Example B
10 wagers @ +100 for $100
8 wins = $800
2 loses = $200
profit = $600 - $60 (10%) $540

 

[MattyMatt]

Well at the very least you would be able to buy out of a wager for free instead of paying the vig to get out of a bet with no line movement.

This is true. Never do it, but you're right. Guess I'm thinking a local local wouldn't allow buybacks anywho.

 

[JudgeWapner]

A because they will have the money to pay when I win.

 

[jensinc]

A because they will have the money to pay when I win.

k:

 

[Defying]

A Standard Book with -110 book....

Or

A book that doesn't charge juice. Standard Wagers are +100 on both sides, except your charged 10% of your payouts.

If your a winning player 10% seems like a steep fee...

Comes back to that argument, that do you pay juice when you win..

But from the books perspective...

When players are losing, you are collecting anyway.

If they beat you, then you get back 10% back... That's a good deal for the book IMO...

 

[Defying]

I think it's a good, out of the box idea...

Why isn't it...
If they lose, they owe money anyways, but those times they beat you, they give 10% back....

+100 on StraightBets only, no middles or betting other sides...
10% Cash out Fee...

 

[Acebb]

Example A

10 wagers @ -110 for $100 each

Win 7 = $700
Lose 3 = $330
Profit = $370

Example B
10 wagers @ +100 for $100
7 wins = $700
3 loses = $300
profit = $300 - $30 (10%) $270

 

[Acebb]

There is only 1 correct answer.

You only pay the juice when you win with B.
With A you pay the juice win or lose.

You don't pay any juice when you win.

You risk juice.

Not pay.

You should probably spend some time doing some basic math on this before shrieking about people being dumb.

 

[RenoChazz]

I'm going against the flow here. The winner of the bet pays the vig anyway, the loser lost the bet. If you lose constantly you're not paying the vig anyways. If you have two people betting $100 at EV, the loser loses the winner collects the winnings, when you add the vig the winner is actually paying that out of what he won.

 

[Acebb]

If anyone picks A they are dumb

If anyone reflexively responds to this without doing basic mathematical calculations based on a high winning % or low winning % they are dumb.

 

[MCLH]

stupid question -they are the same

Example A

10 wagers @ -110 for $100 each

Win 7 = $700
Lose 3 = $330
Profit = $370

Example B
10 wagers @ +100 for $100
7 wins = $700
3 loses = $300
profit = $300 - $30 (10%) $270

example A & B are the same-example B win 700 Lose 300 $400 profit less 10% juice on 3 losers $370
Stupid question-and you gamble-unreal how foolish people are-
370 is the profit either way- You must be bored to death to come up with this questions?

 

[RenoChazz]

example A & B are the same-example B win 700 Lose 300 $400 profit less 10% juice on 3 losers $370
Stupid question-and you gamble-unreal how foolish people are-
370 is the profit either way- You must be bored to death to come up with this questions?

+1 theoretically and mathematically
The only thing that really comes into play is +ev and that lines are fluid. If you are a bettor that is constantly getting beat by the closing line, then B is for you, though I'd suggest not betting or rethinking your current strategy. If you are a +e bettor that is constantly kicking the closing line's ass then A is the obvious choice.

 

[mrwho]

If anyone picks A they are dumb

why is it dumb? if you dont lose, you dont lose juice..

 

[CHOPTALK]

You don't pay any juice when you win.

You risk juice.

Not pay.

You should probably spend some time doing some basic math on this before shrieking about people being dumb.

yes you do pay juice when you win.

 

[CHOPTALK]

You don't pay any juice when you win.

You risk juice.

Not pay.

You should probably spend some time doing some basic math on this before shrieking about people being dumb.

risking juice is paying juice dumb dumb

 

[mrwho]

You don't pay any juice when you win.

You risk juice.

Not pay.

You should probably spend some time doing some basic math on this before shrieking about people being dumb.

didnt you see his sick of gambling or whatever it is thread...should tell you what you need to know..lol

 

[mrwho]

risking juice is paying juice dumb dumb

strong logic...ointer:

 

[Acebb]

yes you do pay juice when you win.

Do you come here with the express purpose to show everyone you have no idea what you're talking about each day?

Because if I risk $110 on tonight's game to win $100 and I win, I actually pay zero juice.

 

[Acebb]

example A & B are the same-example B win 700 Lose 300 $400 profit less 10% juice on 3 losers $370
Stupid question-and you gamble-unreal how foolish people are-
370 is the profit either way- You must be bored to death to come up with this questions?

Actually, I made an error carrying the $300 down to the wrong column.

In example B your take away is $360 (10% of $400 profit) which is lower than the $370 take away on -110.

Math obviously isn't choptalk's strong suit.

 

[Acebb]

risking juice is paying juice dumb dumb

Only when you don't understand the definition of the word "pay"

Again, do you come here with the express purpose of showing everyone you have no clue what you're talking about?