US warns Russia it would be a 'grave mistake' to send its military into Ukraine as its new leader says it wants to integrate with Europe

[ScottL]

My problem with you wasn't that you don't talk to everyone, it was that you make trolling like remarks towards me. Now I see how you react to people when they say something that you feel strongly against. Notice how I do not call you the troll in those arguments or try to agitate you when you are arguing against someone as crazy as Sheriff Joe. It's amazing seeing you call them out for a change rather than us. Too bad it only happens when you believe something is worth fighting for.

So I should do it when something is NOT worth fighting for?
I think our differences arose out of your sensitivity. But I don't wish to rehash it.
All we can do is try our best

 

[ScottL]

Thanks for the history lesson on reality. The problem as I see it is the infidels are in a lose, lose situation. I doesn’t matter what we do or don’t do. Diplomacy is useless. Fighting wars in the Middle East, at least the way we fight them, is useless.

The two choices as I see it are, stop sticking our nose into other peoples business or exterminate them. And before you get all righteous about the extermination thingy, nation building sailed after WWII. The humanitarian efforts we try to impose around the world are futile. Example A is Iraq, we liberate and walk away and now we’re right back we started.

The name of the game is dependency. We’re dependant on oil. Now I have to admit that American ingenuity is changing that slowly but surely, but until we become completely independent of Middle East oil we’ll be screwing around over there.

I’m almost considering taking the isolationist stance. Fuck the rest of the world. We can feed ourselves, we can manufacture anything we need (if we get off our lazy asses and return to producing) and I don’t see why we need to be dependant on anyone or anything.

I was responding to you on the issue of why we don't show the world dead pictures of OBL. What you said above, while I can't wholeheartedly agree or disagree, had little to do with that. I agree the US is in a tough spot. And you go to war to win decisively. Yep. Also I'm sure you agree our president is weak.

 

[ScottL]

Joe C you're too far gone. Communicating with you is wasted effort.

 

[ScottL]

On the issue with Obama skipping a meeting I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. He was probably on the phone with Putin part of the day and spent the rest of it commiserating with other feckless world leaders and current UN mouthpiece ban ki-moon.

 

[akphidelt]

So I should do it when something is NOT worth fighting for?
I think our differences arose out of your sensitivity. But I don't wish to rehash it.
All we can do is try our best

My point is you take some issues seriously I take other issues seriously. You just seem to think very highly of yourself and what you consider witty retorts I find very annoying and trollish. Your intentions are clear to those who aren't completely retarded like Joe and Dave. I think you truly are a fucking clown.

 

[russ1945]

I was responding to you on the issue of why we don't show the world dead pictures of OBL. What you said above, while I can't wholeheartedly agree or disagree, had little to do with that. I agree the US is in a tough spot. And you go to war to win decisively. Yep. Also I'm sure you agree our president is weak.

Scott, when was the last time this country entered into a conflict with the objective of winning. We never finish what we start.

 

[russ1945]

My point is you take some issues seriously I take other issues seriously. You just seem to think very highly of yourself and what you consider witty retorts I find very annoying and trollish. Your intentions are clear to those who aren't completely retarded like Joe and Dave. I think you truly are a fucking clown.

You have to be kidding, Aktard calling Scott L a troll. Join the club Scott. Aktard has the red bulbous nose and wears size 20 shoes and lives under a big top and you are the clown. Go figure.

 

[akphidelt]

You have to be kidding, Aktard calling Scott L a troll. Join the club Scott. Aktard has the red bulbous nose and wears size 20 shoes and lives under a big top and you are the clown. Go figure.

You sticking up for Scott isn't helping his cause. But it makes sense.

 

[roadreeler57]

So much for the clean slate...

 

[akphidelt]

So much for the clean slate...

He can't keep his mouth shut. It's what trolls do. They can't help themselves.

 

[russ1945]

You sticking up for Scott isn't helping his cause. But it makes sense.

Whereas nothing you say makes sense.

 

[akphidelt]

Whereas nothing you say makes sense.

What I say is used in the real world. The fact it does not make sense to you is not surprising. You are a birther loon.

 

[MantisToboggan]

What I say is used in the real world. The fact it does not make sense to you is not surprising. You are a birther loon.

Is repeatedly calling someone a "birther loon" not trolling?

 

[akphidelt]

Is repeatedly calling someone a "birther loon" not trolling?

Not at all. After years of dealing with Russ, that's just what he is. There will never be a reality based conversation with him. He's just a real life loon. That's not trolling at all, just read his posts.

 

[MantisToboggan]

Not at all. After years of dealing with Russ, that's just what he is. There will never be a reality based conversation with him. He's just a real life loon. That's not trolling at all, just read his posts.

If you feel that way then why not just ignore him rather than call him "birther loon"?

 

[akphidelt]

If you feel that way then why not just ignore him rather than call him "birther loon"?

He needs to be called out for his psychotic beliefs. I'm not here to ignore psychos, I'm here to point them out.

 

[MantisToboggan]

He needs to be called out for his psychotic beliefs. I'm not here to ignore psychos, I'm here to point them out.

Fair enough.

 

[akphidelt]

Fair enough.

And you weren't around when Russ was the most annoying poster here. He made hundreds of threads in 2012 and 2013 connecting all his imaginary dots. Then he claims he's an independent. He is a freak and should be reminded of that daily.

 

[The Guesser]

How funny, you bringing up the subject of objectivity. Does that apply to the Obama administration also. Why did Kerry make the rounds to all the major networks today except Fox talking about the situation in Ukraine. And everyone who thought Benghazi was not an indication of our weakness and trepidation to protect our own should be scratching their heads about now. Then throw in things like canceling parts of our Russian missile defense which weakened the European defense system. Putin just got the focus of the world with the winter Olympics and before that focus was gone he makes a very aggressive move. Benghazi happened on 9/11. Why would we not be on alert world wide on that anniversary. So today Kerry makes the rounds and stiff arms Fox. That defines this administration and tate objectivity does not even reach the level of a veneer. That is obvious. Obama still wants to reduce the size of our military. That shows how his agenda takse precedence over not only the security of the U.S. but for the whole world. Smallest level since 1940. China, Russia, the muslim world are laughing at us and it all falls on the shoulders of Obama and his Administration. He did not even attend the security briefing the day after Russia occupied Crimea. And what is Guesser worried about, a veneer of objectivity. Right.

I guess you don't understand what the word Objectivity means? Fox News has none, so why would Kerry waste his time there, when there are other news organization that actually strive to be fair? The idiots on Fox(and Wallace is better than most there, but still isn't close to objective or a newsman) would be wasting his time asking about Benghazi or other such irrelevant nonsense.
And of Course the Obama administration isn't objective about their objectives. :think2:

 

[The Guesser]

My point is you take some issues seriously I take other issues seriously. You just seem to think very highly of yourself and what you consider witty retorts I find very annoying and trollish. Your intentions are clear to those who aren't completely retarded like Joe and Dave. I think you truly are a fucking clown.

Unless I missed something, why would you come down on Scott like this??? I thought things were cool between you two again? Scott is far from a clown, even if you disagree with him politically. That label should be reserved for those that deserve it, Scotty doesn't.