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Profanely...Never! :think2:
Also, I have never "flamed" other members any worse (far from it) then what goes on in here everyday....BTW, I have received 2 PM's from other long time posters (not Loren or any of my other "kook brothers") in the past 1-2 weeks of you (in their opinion) over stepping your boundaries as a mod by deleting post... here is one, I deleted the other one accidentally as my mailbox was full....
"Barman goes way beyond normal Mod duties with his censoring. If someone is rude, then an email with a warning should suffice."
"I'll watch the videos and probably won't read the book, but I am going to keep an open mind."
That is the actual post...I only added the "quotes"...^^
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Total Recall
Newton's Third Law of Motion:
<CENTER><TABLE cellPadding=15 width=450 bgColor=#ffffe0 border=7><TBODY><TR><TD>[FONT=helvetica,geneva,arial]III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>The building hit the plane at a speed of 500 mph.
If what your eyes told you you were seeing were correct. It defies Newton's law. The laws of physics, like mathematics, are absolute and cannot be defied.
If what you saw on TV really happened then planes wouldn't worry about losing power over the ocean. Crashing into the ocean would be be no problem as the water would offer no resistance and the plane could slice through it. Like butter, undamaged. Unfortunately, pilots know this is a fallacy. The plane drops from the sky and when it hits the ocean a plane will break apart. It's like hitting a brick wall.
Money Talks -- if these idiots don't understand physics by now, they never will.
If the building was made of water it still would have smashed into it and broken into pieces.
There were no planes. Only explosions.
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Go punch water in a large bowl. Tell me if you draw blood, now go punch a piece of steel and tell me if you draw blood. Which one hurts the most? Why does this matter? It shouldn't be that hard to understand
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Georgia boy -- Why does it matter? Because it's analogies like this that you can know that the story of the plane entering the building is a lie, whether it's the World Trade Center, whether it's the Pentagon, whether it's Shanksville. Planes don't enter steel, dirt, or water and disappear. They smash up, breakup, and end up in pieces on the ground, because what they've hit by is harder than what they are made of. Mass and density and dispersion rates are what's important in attempting to understand what happened to the plane's.. The official story of the plane plane entering the building as if it could bully its way through sheer speed is preposterous. Newton's law says, whatever speed the plane is going will be matched by what it hits. Even though admittedly we see planes doing just that, eyes deceive us,doesn't make it possible. Magicians deceive our eyes all the time. And yet people won't give up on this plane entering the building deception, arguing it must've happened that way, because they saw it happen that way. This is flawed logic. This is the weakness of the visual senses, which that day were taken full advantage of. So we can certainly be fooled by what we see or what we think we see happening. What can't be fooled is the laws of physics. They cannot be deceived. They cannot be defied.
Most kids first find out about Newton's Law the hard way. No, not by punching a bowl of water, although I do like the analogy, faulty as it is, actually proving my point. By falling onto a bowl of water, a big bowl, like a pool. How many of us when we were young discovered this, discovered how hard water really is or can be by instead of diving off the diving board. jumping off it instead and intentionally landing on our bellies? Boy, are we surprised! You never realize the water could be that hard on your painful stomachs and that reason is: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. We hit the water with our stomach and the water hits back. I still remember the first timeI did a belly flop from a great height off the diving board. I still remember remember the pain mixed with surprise. How could this be? Why did the soft water suddenly feel so hard? Then I read Newton's laws and I understood. That the laws of physics explain everything that is true in this world and the universe as well. Regarding objects in motion I'll listen to Newton over any 9/11 debunker .
Is that simple enough for you to understand? !~~~!
Newton's Third Law of Motion:
<CENTER><TABLE cellPadding=15 width=450 bgColor=#ffffe0 border=7><TBODY><TR><TD>[FONT=helvetica,geneva,arial]III. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>The building hit the plane at a speed of 500 mph.
If what your eyes told you you were seeing were correct. It defies Newton's law. The laws of physics, like mathematics, are absolute and cannot be defied.
If what you saw on TV really happened then planes wouldn't worry about losing power over the ocean. Crashing into the ocean would be be no problem as the water would offer no resistance and the plane could slice through it. Like butter, undamaged. Unfortunately, pilots know this is a fallacy. The plane drops from the sky and when it hits the ocean a plane will break apart. It's like hitting a brick wall.
Money Talks -- if these idiots don't understand physics by now, they never will.
If the building was made of water it still would have smashed into it and broken into pieces.
There were no planes. Only explosions.
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Go punch water in a large bowl. Tell me if you draw blood, now go punch a piece of steel and tell me if you draw blood. Which one hurts the most? Why does this matter? It shouldn't be that hard to understand
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Georgia boy -- Why does it matter? Because it's analogies like this that you can know that the story of the plane entering the building is a lie, whether it's the World Trade Center, whether it's the Pentagon, whether it's Shanksville. Planes don't enter steel, dirt, or water and disappear. They smash up, breakup, and end up in pieces on the ground, because what they've hit by is harder than what they are made of. Mass and density and dispersion rates are what's important in attempting to understand what happened to the plane's.. The official story of the plane plane entering the building as if it could bully its way through sheer speed is preposterous. Newton's law says, whatever speed the plane is going will be matched by what it hits. Even though admittedly we see planes doing just that, eyes deceive us,doesn't make it possible. Magicians deceive our eyes all the time. And yet people won't give up on this plane entering the building deception, arguing it must've happened that way, because they saw it happen that way. This is flawed logic. This is the weakness of the visual senses, which that day were taken full advantage of. So we can certainly be fooled by what we see or what we think we see happening. What can't be fooled is the laws of physics. They cannot be deceived. They cannot be defied.
Most kids first find out about Newton's Law the hard way. No, not by punching a bowl of water, although I do like the analogy, faulty as it is, actually proving my point. By falling onto a bowl of water, a big bowl, like a pool. How many of us when we were young discovered this, discovered how hard water really is or can be by instead of diving off the diving board. jumping off it instead and intentionally landing on our bellies? Boy, are we surprised! You never realize the water could be that hard on your painful stomachs and that reason is: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. We hit the water with our stomach and the water hits back. I still remember the first timeI did a belly flop from a great height off the diving board. I still remember remember the pain mixed with surprise. How could this be? Why did the soft water suddenly feel so hard? Then I read Newton's laws and I understood. That the laws of physics explain everything that is true in this world and the universe as well. Regarding objects in motion I'll listen to Newton over any 9/11 debunker .
Is that simple enough for you to understand? !~~~!
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I've removed the two posts which make the fictional claim that the planes on 9/11/01 "landed safely" elsewhere.
This is pure garbage that spoofs on the hundreds of families who lost members to death that day.
Such bullshit is welcome on numerous other web forums, so take it there. It's not welcome here.
This is pure garbage that spoofs on the hundreds of families who lost members to death that day.
Such bullshit is welcome on numerous other web forums, so take it there. It's not welcome here.
We have eyewitnesses to planes, so the question always comes up where did the passengers go? I'll ask the same question in another way. Where did all the eyewitnesses to any of the passengers boarding any of the planes at any of the airports go? So far as I can find there aren't any. There are no witnesses. They have family members calling them receiving phone calls while they're on the planes, but it seems that no one actually went to the airport with them and saw them off. Isn't that strange. Can anyone tell me what Gate passengers were at for flight 11? Don't look for the answer in the 9/11 commission report. I've read it and it is not reported.It cleverly sidesteps the question. You won't find it. Some say 24 some say 32. No one can be sure which. There was a memorial at Logan Airport in Boston. There were two groups of people, one congregating at gate 24, the other at 32, for the same passengers! Anyone have an answer for this, you know, you guys with all the answers except the important ones.
Total Recall, you have done some real fine work here. The reason why I started this thread was a test. I am looking for scientifically sharp handicappers. I have been to a few sports betting forums and come away with no new friends because there just aren't many people involved in betting that have some common knowledge of science.
You are quite right. Cover-ups and creating false identities are easy for the government. The news media is the government's whore. However, the laws of physics are impossible to defy. Therefore, to determine what happened on 9/11 we have to consult the laws of physics first.
I believe that you can be very effective betting any particular sport if you understand the science of picking winners in that sport. For myself, I prefer the NFL. I have a system that uses information to pick games. The system was based on a scientific concept and uses indicators such as injury report trends, key arrivals and departure trends, etc. An edge is realized when all of your information is backed by an indicators, as defined previously. Therefore, I use a scientific concept to ascertain a logical opinion.
I'll share my thoughts with you this fall, hopefully we will be on the same page again. Thanks for responding...
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