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1st failed attempt : THE PHOTOS


TR "On the photos you lost because I asked for a video."

Mr MJ "You didnt say moving video!" :laugh:

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2nd failed attempt - THE VIDEO THAT WASNT AN AIRPORT SURVEILLANCE VIDEO (after finally admitting that a video is a video)

TR "Where is the time and date stamp to prove it is was taken on 9/11?"

Mr MJ "You didnt state in the rules it couldnt be a fake!"

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Ive got all day and night for this denial complex of yours.

Youre constant feeble attemps make me laugh even harder!!!!!!!!!!

Remember- You need to pay me twice now-thats $40. You lost both attemps to prove your case. ^^:)


Pay up now- or forever be known to the RX as- the DOUBLE WELCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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you asked for the video and I provided it.

It's as simple as that.

You can't change the rules after the fact.

This is a gambling forum...no place for GD welchers here.

Pay up Bub ! ~~:<<
 

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No it isnt. Like I said its called raising with a pair of two's.

What if I wager $20 you cant find the surveillance tape of a bald Britainy Spears having sex with her hotel doorman last New Years Eve.

You find a cute bald hooker and make a video. Call it Brittainy With Pony. Its very grainy and you can hardly see her face. Plus the supposed hotel tape you show me it has no time stamp on it so theres no way I can know if was made in 01/01/09.



I know it isnt an authentic hotel video because they all have T & D stamps on them.

I say WTF is this?

You say "you asked for the video and I provided it."

Am I supposed to pay you $20 on that too?

Phony tapes are apparently admissible in your bizzaro world.



If you can find a real airport surveillance tape then you win. Until you do that- I win.



The problem with you is you really believe it is authentic.

Regardless- I have every right to question its validity on those grounds.

Nobody is going to pay on fake proof.

Take you whining azz and get a brain and realize this- I am not paying off on anything but a real surveillance video- and thats that.

Ive wasted enough time on you.

Im done.

Any more whining and Ill have to call the men in the white coats to have you commited to the nearest Insane Asylum for treatment of Delusions Of Grandeur.


YOU LOST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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You asked me to provide a video of the hijackers.

I did...you lose.

Now do the right thing and pay up...welchers can't be tolerated in gambling forum.

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i can't believe there are people that actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government to sell the iraq war to the public. i am far from mr. patriotic & have major issues with both parties & government in general. i am far from naive but anyone that actually believes this is either ready for a straight jacket or just craving recognition & attention. first, why would the government destroy 3 planes? wouldn't one crashing into the towers be enough outrage & grief? second, it would take an incredible amount of planning & hundreds of people involved for it to be an inside job involving high ranking government officials, the military, civillian investigators, lawyers, police ect... third, the supposed simple physics question was never answered conveniently. 4 pillars stopping a plane because it's made of aluminum & fiberglass?? yeah, that's why pieces of straw & tree branches can become inbeded in concrete walls during tornados. you can't honestly believe the plane should have just been stopped & dropped to the ground instead of engulfing the whole building. fourth, why would they do it in broad daylight over nyc & d.c. where tens of thousands of people would be witness to this conspiracy? are you guys saying thousands of people are all being kept quiet or that they're all in on it? there are a handful of crackpots, most hoping to make a dime off this tragedy that concocted this theory & have sold it to people with no life trying to make others think they have some incredible insight or knowledge of our government. IF ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS COUNTRY OR ANY OF IT'S LEADERS NO MATTER HOW INCOMPETENT, ARE CAPABLE OF SUCH AN ATROCITY ON IT'S OWN CITIZENS THEN WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING LIVING HERE?
 

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No - I didnt ask for just a video- which is what you provided. A stinking video that could be anybody its so grainy and dark cant see any faces- clearly not a well lit surveillance video - and could have been made in 2004 when the government spit this fake ass video out. You cant explain why there is no time and date stamp numbers on it. Can you? I can - because its a fake thats why! You want it not to matter. Dont you?


I want an actual airport surveillance video. If it doesnt have the time and date stamp it is neither authentic nor acceptable. Thats the only reason you lost. If it had a time and date stamp you would have won.
Nice try.

"If anyone of you gentlemen think you can easily show me an airport surveillance video ..."








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No - I didnt ask for just a video

Actually...yes you did. :103631605

Originally Posted by Total Recall

If anyone of you gentlemen think you can easily show me an airport surveillance video of any 9/11 hijacker, and you've got 19 chances right, going through the metal detectors at any of the airports where they hijacked planes let me know and I'll give you a week to try to find one. At the end of the week, if you can find it $20 PayPal from me to you.

I provided exactly what you asked for...

I underlined your own words for you...you seem to have forgotten what you posted here.

It's not the money...it's the principle.

Pay up!


Multiple Global News outlets are my sources.

Video shows 9/11 security check

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3915471.stm

THREATS AND RESPONSES: THE PLOT; Surveillance Video Shows Hijackers in Dulles Search

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/22/us...es-search.html

Hijackers at Dulles Airport
(Associated Press / July 21, 2004)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...5hijackers0721

(CNN) -- A surveillance video from Washington's Dulles International Airport the morning of September 11, 2001, shows four of five hijackers passing through security checks before boarding the plane they would crash into the Pentagon.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/07/21...deo/index.html

Hijackers caught on airport CCTV

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...port-CCTV.html
 

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One oblivious fact about that there event was, planes crashed into the towers and some bad Muslims were at the helm in each case. I saw it on TV and thousands of innocent Americans were killed by the them.

This crap of an American conspiracy is unsettling, baseless and very distributing. This Liberals got this here tragedy wrong in my opinion. This is all I need to say about this here matter. So stop it!

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i can't believe there are people that actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government to sell the iraq war to the public.

THAT WAS ONLY ONE PART. THE MASTER PLAN IS A GEOPOLITICAL ENSLAVEMENT OF THE HUMAN RACE.

SELL A WAR? IT WORKED DIDNT IT? THEY KNEW IT WOULD.

YOU THINK THATS THE FIRST TIME THEYVE SOLD A WAR. ALL WARS ARE SOLD.

GO BACK TO WWI AND READ ABOUT THE LUSITANIA.

i am far from mr. patriotic & have major issues with both parties & government in general. i am far from naive

STOP RIGHT THERE. YOU ARE NAIVE IF YOU BELIEVE THE TALL TALE OF 9/11 WITHOUT RESEARCHING IT. HAVE YOU DONE ANY RESEARCH?

but anyone that actually believes this is either ready for a straight jacket or just craving recognition & attention.

THATS CALLED AN AD HOMINEM ATTACK AND IT IS THE SANCTUARY OF YOUR AVERAGE 9/11 DEBUNKER. COMING OUT INTO THE OPEN AND DISCUSSING THE FACTS SCARES THEM. THEY WOULD RATHER THROW OUT PEJORATIVE WORDS AND ATTACK THE PERSON - NOT WHAT HE IS SAYING.

first, why would the government destroy 3 planes? wouldn't one crashing into the towers be enough outrage & grief?

THEY FELT THAT TO GET INTO YOUR HEAD ENOUGH THEY NEEDED 3... LOL

second, it would take an incredible amount of planning & hundreds of people involved for it to be an inside job involving high ranking government officials, the military, civillian investigators, lawyers, police ect...

YOU DONT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT MUCH OF THE PLANNING WAS COMPARTMENTALIZED. CHAIN OF COMMAND SAYS YOU ARE ONLY TOLD WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. ONLY THE FEW AT THE TOP KNEW WHAT ALL THE LITTLE JOBS WOULD ADD UP TO. YOU DONT GET ASK A SUPERIOR WHAT ITS FOR WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO MAKE SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING DO YOU?

third, the supposed simple physics question was never answered conveniently. 4 pillars stopping a plane because it's made of aluminum & fiberglass?? yeah, that's why pieces of straw & tree branches can become inbeded in concrete walls during tornados. you can't honestly believe the plane should have just been stopped & dropped to the ground instead of engulfing the whole building.

HERE YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE EXISTENCE OF THE PLANES BY BY JUSTIFYING THEIR DISSAPPERANCE. IRONIC. WHAT IF THERE WERE NO PLANES?

I JUSTIFY THE EXISTENCE OF NO PLANES BY THEIR DISSAPEARANCE.

DOESNT THAT MAKE MORE SENSE?

fourth, why would they do it in broad daylight over nyc & d.c. where tens of thousands of people would be witness to this conspiracy?

THE GREATEST MOVIES DESERVE THE LARGEST AUDIENCES.

are you guys saying thousands of people are all being kept quiet

THE MILITARY CAN NOW SENTENCE YOU TO 20 YEARS FOR WHISTLEBLOWING UNDER THE NEW PATRIOT ACT. THAT KEEPS ALOT OF THEM IN PLACE.

or that they're all in on it?

COMPARTMENTALIZED WORKERS WHO DONT KNOW ANYTHING BEYOND SQUAT IS MORE REALISTIC THAN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE "IN ON IT."


there are a handful of crackpots, most hoping to make a dime off this tragedy that concocted this theory & have sold it to people with no life

THERE YOU GO AGAIN- ATTACKING THE PERSON- NOT THE FACTS

trying to make others think they have some incredible insight or knowledge of our government.

ITS NOT INCREDIBLE. ITS MOSTLY CREDIBLE.

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IF ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS COUNTRY OR ANY OF IT'S LEADERS NO MATTER HOW INCOMPETENT, ARE CAPABLE OF SUCH AN ATROCITY ON IT'S OWN CITIZENS THEN WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING LIVING HERE?


COUNTRIES ARENT CAPABLE OF ANYTHING- ITS THE ASSHOLES RUNNING IT THAT DO THE EVIL DOER STUFF.

YOU STAY BECAUSE YOU HOPE FOR CHANGE WHEN EVERYONE FINDS OUT THE TRUTH. COUNTRIES ARE STILL LOVABLE EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE IN CHARGE ARE HATABLE. VOTE THEM OUT. ITS THE AMERICAN WAY.@)


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i can't believe there are people that actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government to sell the iraq war to the public.

THAT WAS ONLY ONE PART. THE MASTER PLAN IS A GEOPOLITICAL ENSLAVEMENT OF THE HUMAN RACE.

SELL A WAR? IT WORKED DIDNT IT? THEY KNEW IT WOULD.

YOU THINK THATS THE FIRST TIME THEYVE SOLD A WAR. ALL WARS ARE SOLD.

GO BACK TO WWI AND READ ABOUT THE LUSITANIA.


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What about about WWII...... Pearl Harbor 350 planes flying straight for Hawaii and air traffic radars picked up nothing at one of our largest military bases?
 

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THATS RIGHT CW- YOU KNOW THEY WERE PLANES BECAUSE YOU SAW THEM ON TV....
 

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THATS RIGHT CW- YOU KNOW THEY WERE PLANES BECAUSE YOU SAW THEM ON TV....

Precisely. This is bolstered by the undisputed fact that the bad Muslims proclaimed that they did it. End of story.

Fuck those bad Muslisms.

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i can't believe there are people that actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government to sell the iraq war to the public. i am far from mr. patriotic & have major issues with both parties & government in general. i am far from naive but anyone that actually believes this is either ready for a straight jacket or just craving recognition & attention. first, why would the government destroy 3 planes? wouldn't one crashing into the towers be enough outrage & grief? second, it would take an incredible amount of planning & hundreds of people involved for it to be an inside job involving high ranking government officials, the military, civillian investigators, lawyers, police ect... third, the supposed simple physics question was never answered conveniently. 4 pillars stopping a plane because it's made of aluminum & fiberglass?? yeah, that's why pieces of straw & tree branches can become inbeded in concrete walls during tornados. you can't honestly believe the plane should have just been stopped & dropped to the ground instead of engulfing the whole building. fourth, why would they do it in broad daylight over nyc & d.c. where tens of thousands of people would be witness to this conspiracy? are you guys saying thousands of people are all being kept quiet or that they're all in on it? there are a handful of crackpots, most hoping to make a dime off this tragedy that concocted this theory & have sold it to people with no life trying to make others think they have some incredible insight or knowledge of our government. IF ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS COUNTRY OR ANY OF IT'S LEADERS NO MATTER HOW INCOMPETENT, ARE CAPABLE OF SUCH AN ATROCITY ON IT'S OWN CITIZENS THEN WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING LIVING HERE?


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Liberals got this here tragedy wrong in my opinion.

Liberals and conservatives don't differ on who planned and executed 9/11. Only whackos disagree. Liberals may sometimes blame America's policies for causing religious fanatics to hate us. Liberals know who did it, but they're just wrong about the cause [blind religious fanatacism]. Only KOOKS think the US gov't murdered their own people on 9/11. That's why we call them KOOKS. That's my opinion on this here issue. Excuse me if I remain seated and do not get up and dance.
 

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i can't believe there are people that actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government to sell the iraq war to the public. i am far from mr. patriotic & have major issues with both parties & government in general. i am far from naive but anyone that actually believes this is either ready for a straight jacket or just craving recognition & attention. first, why would the government destroy 3 planes? wouldn't one crashing into the towers be enough outrage & grief? second, it would take an incredible amount of planning & hundreds of people involved for it to be an inside job involving high ranking government officials, the military, civillian investigators, lawyers, police ect... third, the supposed simple physics question was never answered conveniently. 4 pillars stopping a plane because it's made of aluminum & fiberglass?? yeah, that's why pieces of straw & tree branches can become inbeded in concrete walls during tornados. you can't honestly believe the plane should have just been stopped & dropped to the ground instead of engulfing the whole building. fourth, why would they do it in broad daylight over nyc & d.c. where tens of thousands of people would be witness to this conspiracy? are you guys saying thousands of people are all being kept quiet or that they're all in on it? there are a handful of crackpots, most hoping to make a dime off this tragedy that concocted this theory & have sold it to people with no life trying to make others think they have some incredible insight or knowledge of our government. IF ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THIS COUNTRY OR ANY OF IT'S LEADERS NO MATTER HOW INCOMPETENT, ARE CAPABLE OF SUCH AN ATROCITY ON IT'S OWN CITIZENS THEN WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING LIVING HERE?

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dg84 correctly stated: "i can't believe there are people that actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government to sell the iraq war to the public."

TR responded: "THAT WAS ONLY ONE PART. THE MASTER PLAN IS A GEOPOLITICAL ENSLAVEMENT OF THE HUMAN RACE. SELL A WAR? IT WORKED DIDNT IT? THEY KNEW IT WOULD."

SL stopped reading there....

TR the world is made up of both good and evil people. Yes there are some gray areas but generally that's the world's makeup. I left out one category, those people who halucinate. I don't know where you fit.

I'll just say this -- If you [the 17,632 or so evil Americans who planned, carried out, and covered up 9/11] are evil enough to hijack planes and ram them into buildings filled with other Americans, not knowing how many would die, then -- you are also evil enough to not worry about how to "sell the iraq war to the public."

You already told the "people" to go fuck themselves in the worst way. You want a war, it's simple. You just have one! No need to kill thousands of your own citizens first.

The consequences of our gov't getting caught executing a plot to murder it's own citizens are far worse than the gov't getting caught lying about a war.
 

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REGARDING the attempted welch job by TotalRecall after MisterMJ met the conditions laid out in his proposed "$20 paypal wager":

It's a sad state of affairs any time one of our more active members fails to honor a publicly stated agreement. It's more sad when that same person used our forum to initiate a wager (Dow Jones average) and get paid by several people who took on his terms.

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TR, if you're not willing to honor the wager offer you made which was satisfactorily met by MisterMJ, there's not much any of us can do about it.

But be clear. Any future posts you make in the PoliticoPub that have even a sniff of a "financial challenge" or "wanna make a bet" will be Deleted in full the minute I see them, for as long as I'm affiliated with the Rx Mod team.

Since I'm absolutely uninterested in scrolling past your next 1000+ words of ALL CAPS, multi-colored, multi sized fonts defense of how MisterMJ did not satisfy your publicly posted wager, I'm locking down this thread.

If you elect to bring up the topic of this welched wager in any other existing or future threads, I'll Delete those posts and/or threads as needed.

So consider that for the simple price of $20, you can restore not only your own public integrity, but also retain rights to post pretty much whatever you want about 9/11 or anything else that doesn't violate general RxForum guidelines.
 
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