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3* mich st -2

Freshman QB making first road start in opponent's biggest game of the year...not only rivalry game but a desperate game for msu as well!!! both teams have played closed games, and one play or another could have msu 3-1 and mich 2-2...neither defense has played well, so i'll fade the one on the road

good luck


WOW....your real late to this dance


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But I agree.....at +2.5
 

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3* miami +7

this is the type of line that stirs my consciousness...

First off, UM was -3 @ VTech, which means around -7 neutral
OK is -7 @ UM, which means around -10 neutral
So OK would be around -17 neutral vs VTech, -14 @ VT, and around -21 in Norman...
NONSENSE..!!!

Now if UM beats VT, which they would arguably 40% of the time (VT -150 ML on avg if they played that game 100x sounds about right, especially since UM was favored ML last week!!), they would be #4 in the country right now, and they would be around -3 for this game...there's no way the #4 team in the country would be undefeated and an underdog to #8 for a home night game...so the results of ONE game, played in one of the toughest venues in CFB, in terrible weather conditions, makes for a 10 pt swing in the spread..?? It doesn't in my book...

And since we're talking about rankings, i think it's important to realize that these are meaningless in determining a team's worth any time before mid-season...think about what we've learned in the past week:

Ole Miss had a great 2008. They beat a bad CUSA team and an FCS team in 2009.
in 2009 S Car beat a bcs team @ NC St and lost on the final play @ bcs UGA.
Yet because of 2008 Miss was the ranked team even though S Car had the better "resume" in 2009. Thus, Miss was favored @ S Car on a thrs night game, when based solely on 2009 events, S Car probably should have been favored...we know how that played out.

So let's look at this matchup based solely on 2009 events:

Miami has played 3 bcs teams, have played more road games than home games, and their only loss was @ VT, who's beaten 2 bcs teams (Neb and UM) and whose only loss was to bcs Alabama...Of UM's 2 wins, one was against GTech, who has beaten 2 bcs teams (Clemson and UNC) and the other was opening night @ FSU, who's resume includes a win in absolutely dominating fashion @ BYU

You can argue all you want, but some things are undeniable. One is that UM, along with UGA, are the only teams in NCAA who have played all of their games vs BCS teams. They are also the ONLY bcs team to have played more road games than home games...so while i don't know how this team will end up this season, imo at this point in the season they are one of the only PROVEN teams in the country, and are worthy of being considered a top-level team. In fact, they should probably be ranked ahead of several teams in front of them based on this season's results (how is Ole Miss still ranked ahead of them..??)

Now look at Oklahoma. But it's very important to look at THIS OU team, and try not to confuse them with 2008 OU. They've lost to BYU, who has lost to their only other bcs opponent (FSU), and have beaten an FCS team and a non-bcs team (Tulsa) who was playing in their THIRD STRAIGHT road game..!! Based on this resume, i don't even know if they deserve to be ranked, let alone in the top ten!! Remember, Loadholt is starting @ RT for the Vikings this season, not the Sooners...Gresham is rehabbing for the draft, and not running seam routes through miami's secondary...Unless there was a typo on their depth chart, OU is starting from center out right, 2 FR and a SO on their o-line..!! And i haven't even mentioned Bradford!!! If someone could tell me, based on 2009 events, what OU has done to be ranked in the top ten i would greatly appreciate it...

A few other points:
-At the beginning of the year the big ?? were about OU O-line...Now they play their first "real" road game against the best D-line they've faced this season, but all i hear is how Miami will be facing their toughest defense yet...
-The QB situation is either a backup playing in the biggest game of his life or an injured player making a comeback and playing in only his second game since Jan 8...Will he even make it through 4 qtrs in the heat of south Fla and facing constant pressure??
-I think that the 2008 OU team would absolutely crush the 2009 team that will line up sat night by somewhere near 21 pts...i know that is totally hypothetical, but my point is simply that this team is a far cry from last yrs, yet this spread seems based mainly on the results from 2008

Now i'm not saying that OU won't be a good team this year...that's not the point. The point is that to be favored by a TD on the road for a night game against a team that has PROVEN to be a quality team, you need more than your reputation from last year...or else you're just like Ole Miss from last week, and even they were only 4 pt favs...

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1* Cal +5

I have Cal 75-1 to win NC title and USC u10 +115 season total, and a big reason for both of those was based on the notion that Cal would have a very good chance to win this game...nothing has happened yet this season to change my mind on that assessment, so getting 5 pts makes this worth a play for me, w/ obviously a potential bigger payback if Cal wins outright, but still a winner if they lose in a close one

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1* LSU/UGA u52.5

both teams struggling to run the ball, not sure if 1st yr qbs can be successful enough to make this a high-scoring affair...scores have been higher with these two teams bc of non-offensive TDs, which isn't something you can count on every game...total higher than last yr (49) even though no stafford or moreno, kind of feel if either team gets a lead they will try to limit mistakes...

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3* miami +7

this is the type of line that stirs my consciousness...

First off, UM was -3 @ VTech, which means around -7 neutral
OK is -7 @ UM, which means around -10 neutral
So OK would be around -17 neutral vs VTech, -14 @ VT, and around -21 in Norman...
NONSENSE..!!!

Now if UM beats VT, which they would arguably 40% of the time (VT -150 ML on avg if they played that game 100x sounds about right, especially since UM was favored ML last week!!), they would be #4 in the country right now, and they would be around -3 for this game...there's no way the #4 team in the country would be undefeated and an underdog to #8 for a home night game...so the results of ONE game, played in one of the toughest venues in CFB, in terrible weather conditions, makes for a 10 pt swing in the spread..?? It doesn't in my book...

And since we're talking about rankings, i think it's important to realize that these are meaningless in determining a team's worth any time before mid-season...think about what we've learned in the past week:


good luck

I just learned something new trent! I like your insight & info. Thanks for sharing. Aloha from Hawaii.
 
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I am at the Cal dance at +7-15

But on the Oklahoma train at -6.5.....This play has blow out all over it. Sure if Miami wins last week this line is a PK, BUT that would of made it a monster play. At this line all the squares will be unloading on a team that is overrated, and that is fantastic. Okla backup is a top tier QB who may be better than bradford. So who ever plays it doesn't matter.

Oklahoma 35 Miami 14

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just checking i read that correctly...

you say:

The backup qb with 2 starts vs idaho st and tulsa may be better than Bradford.
The heisman trophy winner.
So whoever plays it doesn't matter.

that is what you said isn't it??

don't be sorry...
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1* Cal +5

I have Cal 75-1 to win NC title and USC u10 +115 season total, and a big reason for both of those was based on the notion that Cal would have a very good chance to win this game...nothing has happened yet this season to change my mind on that assessment, so getting 5 pts makes this worth a play for me, w/ obviously a potential bigger payback if Cal wins outright, but still a winner if they lose in a close one

good luck

You cant still be confident in that future bet right? That blow-out loss to Oregon ensures Cal doesnt go a title game in my book. Sure, it was early, but Cal tanks every time they get in the top 10.
 

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You cant still be confident in that future bet right? That blow-out loss to Oregon ensures Cal doesnt go a title game in my book. Sure, it was early, but Cal tanks every time they get in the top 10.

Sparty,

first thing that needs to happen is Cal wins out...If they finish 11-1, they could be one of only two teams w/ that record...also, this is starting out like one of those wacky yrs, would not be surprised at all if we see a few more "stunning" losses by teams that we would not have expected...if cal wins saturday i feel very comfortable w/ my 75-1 ticket

btw-
if ohio st and cal were both to finish 11-1 who would go?
Cal for beating usc while oh st lost to them?
or ohio st bc their only lose is to usc, while cal got blown out by oregon?
 

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4* UGA -3

not sure if dr bob will fade lsu so locking this in now

People tend to forget that Jefferson from LSU has only started 6 games and has only looked real good in one, the bowl game vs GTech...this will be the best defense he has faced yet in his young career and doing it on the road w/ an underperforming run game (not a big fan of charles scott, he's just a "plugger" imo) doesn't help...LSU defense, bc of non-off tds, was on the field for 86 plays last week!!! now back to back road in conference and 3rd roadie of yr could pose a problem...

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2* Arky -1

Future games of the year line had this arky -13!!!
Both teams have offensive fire power but feel arky has a little more and are a little more desperate...step down in class competition for arky as opposed to step up for tamu...perception has changed due to past events but change schedules and 3-0 arky would be DD fav over 1-2 tamu imo...

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Sparty,

first thing that needs to happen is Cal wins out...If they finish 11-1, they could be one of only two teams w/ that record...also, this is starting out like one of those wacky yrs, would not be surprised at all if we see a few more "stunning" losses by teams that we would not have expected...if cal wins saturday i feel very comfortable w/ my 75-1 ticket

btw-
if ohio st and cal were both to finish 11-1 who would go?
Cal for beating usc while oh st lost to them?
or ohio st bc their only lose is to usc, while cal got blown out by oregon?

Cal would get the nod because OSUdoesnt have any other big enough games that would boost them that far in the rankings, for the rest of the year.

But that's assuming everything goes perfect. then maybe. But,

1) Cal loses another game this year.
2) There will be a few 1-2 loss teams all vying for the NC and someone will be left out this year. and Cal will be at the bottom of the 1 loss list still. the voters know, just like I pointed out earlier, that Cal has a rep for tanking. (they share the award with Clemson)

Not trying to pee in your coffee, just sharing my 2 cents.
 

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Week 5: 4-4 -3.1*
YTD: 9-8 -8.55*

4* Ark +3

So ark is favored over uga @ home and 3 weeks later getting a fg to auburn...

But what caught my eye was the amount of ypc auburn has given up to bcs teams...really poor, and when you consider the passing attack that arky has this looks like a tough match up for auburn's defense...arky on the other hand has been stingy against the run but succeptible against the pass...chris todd has yet to complete 60% vs bcs teams so i'm not sure he can take advantage of arky weakness on defense...home dog in sec always worth a look, i think ark gets the outright win

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Auburn is the new team getting all the hype on ESPN so I have a close eye on them. Hopefully the line will keep moving...
 

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Auburn is the new team getting all the hype on ESPN so I have a close eye on them. Hopefully the line will keep moving...

pre-season it was arky getting the hype...they were picked to finish ahead of auburn so this line would have been around ark -4.5...what happens in september doesn't always continue into october and conference play...we'll see
 

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3* ucla +6

love getting the better defense at home getting points...oregon is not the same team on the road, haven't been there since week 1...hard enough going on the road in conference and winning, let alone by a TD...masoli banged up, but this would be a play regardless

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1* indiana +6.5
1* maryland +11

always like fading a bad team when favored (UVA)...Virginia has been a DD dog in their past 3 games, now favored by almost a TD

Maryland/Wake line last yr had terps short fav @ home, which would translate into around Wake -4 @ home...both teams have lost a lot from last yr, now spread is 7 pts higher comparatively...Wake hasn't been favored by more than 3 in any game this year, now laying DD...ACC teams usually play close, competitive games, Wake historically poor as big fav as well...take the points

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i know yer into totals...thought u might wanna take a look into the over in the uw-zona and beaver-tree games and the under in the sj.st.-idaho game...3 that stuck out to me this weekend...
 

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