Trent, I still haven't seen a number for the total between NC State & Clemson. However, what are your thoughts on NC State getting 19? I know they are hurting offensively and will be hard pressed to do much scoring in this game, but Clemson will be starting three freshmen on the OL. NC State's DL looked solid against a better SC OL and there defense overall is definitely improved. In addition we have conference familiarity and surely some added "value" points for Clemson being overrated.