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[ArizonaBound]

he is going through the same thing this season cbb so far.

started out HOT and is about 50-50 the last month or so in cbb

started out horrible in nba and is also about 50-50 the last month.

The only way he will ever be a capper worth following again is if he goes back to 1 POD and nobody can convince any different right now.

 

[ArizonaBound]

2-2 saturday

0-1 nba, twolves

2-1 cbb, nw and mich winners, min loser

A NEW NICKNAME FOR IC....OJ


THE JUICE MAN.

Here's the marketing slogan......."Tired of paying the man for losers?"

We'll I will save you money....follow me and you will only pay juice. I am the best 52.38% capper you will ever find! I used to play just 1 play per day and I was damn good at it, but why do that when you can get a lot more action and just pay your man the juice. So much more fun betting on 4 games on a Saturday and paying the juice than just one boring ass day with 1 game and collecting on Friday.

Good Luck,

OJ (formerly known as IC)

 

[ArizonaBound]

Hey OJ....here's an idea.....give your clients 1 play per day rated at whatever you want.....for discussion purposes let's say 5 units.

Then feed the degenerates with 2-4 other plays per day rated at 1 unit.

You can go back to hitting 57-62% on your POD and then we can fade your other plays and hit 55% on those.

For being so smart you are stupid. At some point the added sales are going to drop off when you continue to hit 53% with this bull crap strategy.

don't let your pride get in the way of your better judgement moron.

 

[ArizonaBound]

3-1 sunday

nfl, 6u winner with colts, 3u winner with vikes

1-0 nba over lal

0-1 cbb indiana

 

[ArizonaBound]

1-1 Monday

lost 5u rockets

won 4u wofford


passing tuesday, but says he will have 4 releases for Wed.

my point exactly....he hasn't even capped the card for tomorrow, guaranteed, but he is already saying he will make up for not having 2 games today by having 4 tomorrow.
How about you release what you think will win rather than forcing 4 plays on us????
Because you are now focused on your degenerate clients rather than attracting and keeping guys who want to invest in sport wagering.....hence the title....JUMPED THE SHARK

 

[ArizonaBound]

well.....unfortunate, but as expected (read my post from yesterday).....the cowboy swept the board......reverse sweep that is.

passed on wed and tried to make up for it by playing 4 games yesterday.

0-4

cbb, losers with georgia and texas
nba, losers with houston and golden st

ugh....maybe i'm giving him too much credit....maybe he just isn't that good and going back to one play per day won't result in success. maybe he has gotten complacent. Maybe he isn't working as hard as he used to. Maybe he isn't changing his approach to keep up with the guys setting the lines.....who knows.
maybe he just doesn't give a shit because he can figure out how to market himself well enough to generate sales regardless of how he does.
Whatever the reason, this guy has total JUMPED THE SHARK.

let's update the record:

In the last week he is

1-6 in the nba with one loss a 5u

3-5 in cbb

1-1 in nfl, 6u winner and 3u loser, +2.7u

total last week 5-12 or less than 30% and minus 30+ units

Record update through Jan 27
Basketball records from start of 2009 season

35-51 NBA
41%

40-37 in CBB
52%

CFB Starting NOV 12
7-12 end of regular season and bowls
37%

NFL Starting Nov 15
11-19
37%

All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season
93-118
44%

Bottom line, the last 3 months have absolutely horrible for IC. He is down big in every sport except cbb where he is about even. 56% fade rate

 

[ArizonaBound]

0-2 thursday

nba knicks loser

cbb purdue loser

 

[ArizonaBound]

poor boy is on tilt

0-2

nba loser under golden st, not even close

cbb loser Penn, down double digits from the tip.

hno:

someone should send a note to IC telling him to read this thread....he doesn't appreciate my career advice but maybe he will listen to someone else.
MY guess is he chases today with at least 5 total plays. NO way he has the courage to just give out 1 winner or even just 1 per sport today....pathetic

 

[brandone]

He said something about Sac-Char on the free pick vid.

 

[ArizonaBound]

i will be on charlotte today

 

[ArizonaBound]

Saturday Jan 30
1-1, lost nba, won cbb

Jan 31
2-0 won nba and cbb

first sweep in a while it seems

will update through Jan....

 

[ArizonaBound]

Record update through end of Jan
Basketball records from start of 2009 season

36-54 NBA
40%

42-39 in CBB
52%

CFB Starting NOV 12
7-12 end of regular season and bowls
37%

NFL Starting Nov 15
11-19
37%

All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season
96-123
44%

 

[Grecman]

do you post his plays daily?

 

[ArizonaBound]

NO, I do not post his plays daily. I purchased as part of a team and out of respect for the other team member I will not post. If I purchased alone I would not hesitate.
I do see the value in educating those that may be interested in purchasing or following as to his success or lack there of. Since he, like many, chose not to be monitored by an independent 3rd party.

44% the last 3 months is pathetic for someone who calls themselves a professional. One day, good or bad, one week, and even one month, does not define a cappers long term ability. 3+ months at 44% is a large enough sample size (especially across 4 different sports) for me to question this guys capability, motivation, and/or strategy.

 

[Barney44]

All things ras

1. Let me start by saying, I am merely stating some facts here and have no horse in the race.

2. Ed at RAS seems to be a very above board guy who posts his plays and record once a game goes off the board, something more places should do.

3. I have paid for his service in the past and it is amazing how his plays are directly corrolated to quick line movement.

4. His side plays are ok, nothing to write home about.

5. His total plays are quite good, better in the early part of the season and alright later on. Again, just stating hard facts here. He has a knack for finding soft lines early in the season and then the books figure it out.

6. Even if you pay for his picks, you need multiple outs and quick outs to play. Something he discloses to you in his website. Unless you are at a computer, forget about it. Too long to call in from a phone or log in on a cell phone. It really, in my opinion, narrows down how effective the service can be for you.

7. These are my calculations and RAS calculations. In January his totals were 46-29 with his line.His numbers. If you played the final line or after the line moved, it drops down to 41-34, a five game swing which makes it far less profitable. RAS numbers would be less than a five game swing but that is what I have using three popular outs(Pinny, Greek and Heritage). That is a number that RAS may have an issue with but I don't based on actual plays.

8. Those on this website can't complan about free handouts, if you want actual lines and releases, buy his product. It is not too expensive compared to many others out there. Remember, even if you pay, it requires a lot of work and some luck to get the right line. In my opinion, not worth the hassle. I always have wonderred why the plays can't be released the night before after a computer sim is performed.

9. I would be curious to see how his plays would be if you just teased every play 5 points etc,.


My thoughts from afar, others feel free to chime in.

In closing, money management is key and if a line moved too far, let it go and move on to another play.

 

[ArizonaBound]

1-1

loser nba nuggs
winner cbb louiville

 

[Grecman]

we need to get someone to post his plays so we can all fade his ass.

 

[ArizonaBound]

nba sides are for sure a solid fade investment. cbb he is just good enuff to ignore or play small it seems

 

[steve114123]

I will start posting these plays . I get them emailed to me daily. Also does anybody in the indian cowboy group know when the package expires?

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[Barney44]

yes

yes