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Billy Walters 2 Million On Colts Good Read

MATT YOUMANS: Sharp money avoids Saints
As far as coach-quarterback combinations go, only a couple in the NFL inspire belief in bettors more than Sean Payton and Drew Brees. Who imagined the New Orleans Saints would be considered cutting edge and hip?
Payton recruited Brees as a free agent in 2006, and they created a high-powered offense the Saints are riding to the Super Bowl. Along the way, they embarrassed New England's Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.


But next up is Peyton Manning, the league's best quarterback. If the Indianapolis Colts were coached by a beer vendor, they would have a great coach-quarterback combination. Manning alone is that good.
So if you've been watching ESPN, reading the newspaper, listening to talk radio and soaking in the overkill of Super Bowl analysis, you're aware that most experts prefer the Colts as 5-point favorites and Sunday's game should be Manning's showcase.
Manning is making many bettors cynical about the Saints.
Even the sharpest professionals, including Las Vegas' Billy Walters and Steve Fezzik, are lining up on Indianapolis. Fezzik said he plans to bet the Colts straight up on the money line, at a price of about minus-200, and sources say Walters has done the same in a big way.
One story circulating among gambling insiders is that Walters collaborated in some way with poker pro Phil Ivey to place a $2 million money-line bet on Indianapolis at a Strip sports book.
MGM Mirage sports book director Jay Rood did not get into specifics but said, "We took a seven-figure bet on the Colts money line."
Sources also report Adam Meyer, a sports gambler from South Florida, has been approved for a $1 million bet at M Resort. Meyer did not confirm the amount.
"I'm going to be making a substantial wager," Meyer said. "I've only done one-third of the amount so far on the Colts on the money line."
Be aware that many of the Colts money-line bettors are playing it both ways by maneuvering to also take the Saints and the points.
Ken White, a veteran oddsmaker for Las Vegas Sports Consultants, said he made the line minus-61/2 and the total 61, so he sees small edges to Indianapolis and over the total, which is now about 57.
White just spent a week in Miami, and he said league insiders talked about how the Saints were a bundle of nerves in their 31-28 overtime victory over the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC Championship Game. Brees appeared overly cautious with some throws, and his offense went three-and-out seven times.
"If the Saints were nervous in that spotlight," White said, "what's going to happen to them this Sunday?"
White said he leans to the Colts because of "experience." But he's also concerned about the right ankle injury to defensive end Dwight Freeney, a bulldozer as a pass rusher.
"Freeney is an important part of that team," White said. "If he comes back and they say he's going to play 85 percent of the plays, I feel the line will go back up to 6. But without Freeney, I'm making it 41/2."
The 6-foot Brees can stand toe to toe with the 6-foot-5-inch Manning in a passing numbers game.
Brees posted an NFL-high rating of 109.6 in the regular season, compared with Manning's 99.9 rating. Brees had 34 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions, compared with Manning's 33 and 16. Since the 2006 season, Brees and Manning each have 122 touchdown passes. In his past eight games, including the playoffs, Brees has passed for 21 touchdowns with two interceptions.
The critics are picking on the weaknesses of the New Orleans defense, and Manning surely will, too. But it's not a no-win situation for the Saints. A no-win dilemma is a height contest between Tom Cruise, Al Pacino and Ryan Seacrest.
Knocking off Manning is a tall order -- and I have the Colts winning, too -- but Brees and Payton give the Saints a shot.
Despite the crush of Colts bettors swarming Las Vegas books, White said, "There's going to be a lot of Saints money, as well."
There are hundreds of ways to bet the Super Bowl, including propositions. Two weeks ago, "in-progress" wagering was a hit at books such as the Las Vegas Hilton, M Resort and Lucky's. At each commercial break, the point spread for the game is adjusted and posted for continual wagering.
"It's the wave of the future," said Jimmy Vaccaro, director of operations for Lucky's books, based at the Plaza downtown. "People just like to keep betting."
And many of them will be betting big on Manning.
 

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(101) NEW ORLEANS at (102) INDIANAPOLIS – Super Bowl XLIV

StatFox Steve says: The more I studied the Super Bowl
game and its recent history this past week, the more I realized
that you simply cannot handicap it the same way you
do the rest of the season. With so much betting activity,
oddsmakers treat the game differently, thus the regular
bettor should too. This is as public of a game as there is in
sports. Clearly, with the Colts playing as 5.5-point favorites,
they are the team being overpriced. If you were to
look at the StatFox Power Ratings, Outplay Factor Ratings,
and Forecaster for this game, you would undeniably want
to wager your money with the Saints. However, as I said,
you have to change your way of thinking for this contest.
The fact is that the AFC is the premiere conference nowadays
in the NFL, and it is evidenced by the fact that they
have sent just four fairly dominant teams to the Super
Bowl in the last nine years while the NFC has sent nine different
teams. The AFC has been that good because it has
quarterbacks capable of winning big games. None is better
than Peyton Manning. The StatFox Game Estimator
projects the Colts to gain just shy of 300 yards passing in
this contest. Take a look at this Money Line Trend associated
with that: INDIANAPOLIS is 18-0 against the money
line (+18.6 Units) when they gain 250-300 net passing
yards over the last three seasons. The average score was
INDIANAPOLIS 26.8, OPPONENT 14.3. I just can’t see Manning
losing here against a New Orleans defense that lives
by turnovers. He will pick them apart. Colts 33, Saints 20.




StatFox Dave says: Peyton Manning vs. Drew Brees: Since
the opening line was set last week all my office colleagues
laugh and talk about is how Peyton Manning will singlehandedly
win Super Bowl XLIV. Early bettors also seem to
think like my officemates, as the opening line was pushed
from -3 to -5.5. I personally hope this line keeps moving
toward Manning as I am going to put my action on the
Saints. If the money line hits plus-250 I am going to take
some of that action as well. My reason: the better quarterback
in 2009 was Drew Brees, who set the NFL record with
a 70.6 completion percentage and topped the league with
a career-high and franchise record 109.6 rating. I mean no
disrespect to Manning but this year’s best quarterback will
win Super Bowl XLIV—Drew Brees.




StatFox Doug says: From a personal point of view, I would
like to see New Orleans win Super Bowl XLIV, not that I like
it better than Indianapolis, but it would be amazing for
what it would do for those from the Crescent City who
have suffered so much in recent years. However sports
betting isn’t about nice stories with happy endings, it’s
about being on the right side of a wager and winning. I
see the Colts winning 34-23 and here’s how: The Saints
won’t have an answer for Peyton Manning all night as he
throws to receivers all over the field. The Indianapolis defense
will surrender ample yards to Drew Brees and company,
with its pass rush doing just enough to force New
Orleans into more field-goal attempts than it would prefer.
Left tackle Jermon Bushrod sticks out as real spot for the
Saints. This will be an entertaining contest, with Indy
crowned champs for the second time in four years.



StatFox John says: As cliché as it may sound, it seems like
yesterday that we could be excited about a new NFL season,
and now here we are at the apex with the two best
teams giving us the grand finale once more. I’m really glad
to see New Orleans make it this year and I feel that even if
there is some disappointment in a loss, the Saints have
every right to the claim of being the best team in the NFL
this year. My head tells me the Colts will apply their cold
militaristic push into glory, but there is something especially
uplifting in cheering for the underdog. I’m taking
the Saints and the points.





StatFox Jeff says: This is the first time since 1993 that the
top seeds in both conferences advanced to the Super
Bowl. Beyond that, both of these teams started the season
with long undefeated runs: the Saints started 13-0, while
the Colts won their first 14. When handicapping a game
between teams of this quality, you really have to look for
subtle differences. First the Colts’ two losses were largely
of their own doing as they chose to rest starters instead to
shoot for an undefeated regular season. The Saints were
beaten legitimately at home by the Cowboys and Bucs
(yuck) before they clinched home-field advantage. New
Orleans is also quite lucky to be here. The Saints were
dominated on the stat sheet by the Vikings and only advanced
because of another infamous Brett Favre postseason
gaffe. Indy seems to be playing at a higher level now,
however that value is already built into the -5.5 line. The
Colts also have a nasty habit of keeping the game
close—six of their 14 regular-season wins were by one
touchdown or fewer. I think ultimately Peyton Manning
and the Colts will win their second championship in the
past four seasons, but it wouldn’t shock me if we see another
win/no-cover scenario play out.



**StatFox Steve WAS THEIR BEST CAPPER THIS YEAR






GAME TOTAL

StatFox Steve: Halfway through the season, the Colts were the
league’s best-scoring defense, allowing just 13.5 points per game. The
Saints allow 21 points per game, not 30. I think it’s a mistake to have
this be the highest total in Super Bowl history. Going Under.


StatFox Doug:The slightest of leans with the Over. Though the ball
will be in the end zone a plenty, enough field goals will be kicked for a
grand total of 57 points.


StatFox Jeff: This choice here is simple. If the Saints win, it should
be an Over and vice versa. Therefore, I will call for a fairly high-scoring
34-20 type game, but it will stay Under.


StatFox Dave: According to 73 percent of all wagers placed (Sportsbook.
com) on the total have favored the Over. I normally fade the public
but I am going to ride the public on this play and follow them on the
Over 56.5. I just can’t pull the trigger on a New Orleans/Indianapolis
Under.



StatFox John:Give me the Over after seeing these two offenses play
in the playoffs. With Drew Brees’ team averaging 32.6 points per game,
Peyton Manning is going to have to score himself, thus taking it Over.
 

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Sportsmemo’s NEWSLETTER Super Bowl Picks



Tim Trushel..... New Orleans +6 ....Under 56.5

Teddy Covers...Indianapolis -5.5 ...Under 56.5

Fairway Jay .....New Orleans +6.... Over 56.5

Erin Rynning.....New Orleans +6..... Under 56.5

Brent Crow..... New Orleans +6 ......Over 56.5

Rob Veno....... New Orleans +6....... Over 56.5

Marty Otto...... Indianapolis -5.5..... Under 56.5

Andrew Lange ...Indianapolis -5.5..... Under 56.5

Donnie Black..... New Orleans +6 ......Under 56.5

Helmut Sports.... Indianapolis -5.5 .....Under 56.5
 

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GAME OVERVIEW - The NFL has been transitioning to feature offenses since the success of the 1999
Rams & will now be rewarded for it. The old phrase of "defense wins championships" isn't as iron clad as
it used to be despite the success of the Jets in 2009. There were an NFL record 9 QB's with 4,000+yds
passing TY with Manning being #2 & Brees #6. This is the biggest QB matchup since Elway faced Favre
in SB 32. Manning's Colts are led by Jim Caldwell who is the 6th rookie HC to reach the Super Bowl
& the 1st since 2002. This is also the 1st time since 1993 that the #1 seeds in both conferences have
reached the SB. IND won the Lombardi Trophy just 3 years ago in Miami vs CHI who had beaten Drew
Brees' Saints in the NFC Championship. The Saints are enjoying their 1st SB in franchise history. They
have become the embodiment of the city of New Orleans & the local areas that are still rebuilding from
Hurricane Katrina. The story of Archie Manning who was THE star player as a QB for a string of bad
Saints teams will also be put in the spotlight as well the impact of his 2 sons. This could be the fi nal game
for vaunted Colts coaches Tom Moore (OC) & Howard Mudd (OL coach) who almost retired before the
draft but Peyton personally lobbied for their return. Bolstered by a slew of passing records & statistics,
a SB win here would move Manning from the "best QB in the NFL right now" discussion to the "best
QB ever." Drew Brees deserves a huge amount of credit for being the cornerstone of turning around
the Saints' franchise. The impact of DC Gregg Williams on a Saints defense which plays better than its
#25 ranking, due to 39 takeaways, should also be front & center. IND is viewed as the favorite due to
their playoff experience & the fact they beat the #3 & #1 defenses B2B. NO throttled an undermanned
ARZ team & despite being outgained 475-257 advanced due to MIN turning the ball over 5 times on
13 drives. SB dogs have had a strong run going 3-5 SU but 6-2 ATS.


PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE - The Colts are strong believers in continuity & character which has enabled
them to reach the playoffs every year since 2002. IND is 9-8 SU & 10-7 ATS (6-2 ATS S/'06) with Manning
at the helm in the playoffs. The Colts have 25 players who played in SB 41 & are even staying in the
same hotel so they will be very well prepared to deal with the media onslaught. Both teams have 7 Pro
Bowlers & while none of the 14 players will play they all have to make the trip to Miami the week prior
for media day then return to their teams. IND has 7 offensive & 5 defensive starters who played in SB 41
with LT Charlie Johnson being the #3 OT in the game. Brees has played in 5 playoff games (3-2 SU 2-3
ATS) but has no SB experience. NO has 6 offensive & 3 defensive starters who played vs the Bears in
the 2006 NFC Championship. NO has 3 players with SB experience with FS Sharper (97 GB), CB Gay
('04 & '07 NE), FB Eckel ('07 NE) & while Shockey was on the '07 NYG team he was hurt & didn't play.
This is one of the largest edges in playoff/SB experience in recent memory. LARGE EDGE: COLTS



RECORD VS THE SPREAD - The entire season these two teams looked to be on a collision course
as they were the L2 undefeated teams in the NFL. During the fi rst 13 games of the season both were
undefeated the Colts went 10-3 ATS & the Saints went 8-5 ATS after covering their 1st 6 games. The Colts
& HC Jim Caldwell took heat after pulling starters up 15-10 vs NYJ but although they went 0-2 SU/ATS
in the their fi nal 2 reg season games they achieved their goal. The Saints likewise rested starters late in
the season & fi nished the reg season dropping 3 straight & failing to cover 4 straight. IND went 7-1 SU &
ATS on the road outgaining foes by an avg of 386-334 & outscoring them 31-17 facing only one playoff
teams (BAL & ARZ). NO also went 7-1 SU but only 4-4 ATS outgaining foes 384-358 & outscoring them
32-21 only facing 1 playoff team (PHI). Both teams' only SU loss on the road was in the fi nale while resting
players. The Colts went 4-1 SU & 3-2 ATS when facing teams with winning records with an avg score of
27-23 while the Saints went 5-1 SU & 3-3 ATS vs winning teams with an avg score of 31-21. Both teams
clearly made the right choice in resting starters in the regular season s the Colts won and covered both
playoff games while the Saints failed to cover by a half point last week. SLIGHT EDGE: COLTS



TURF/SITE - This is an NFL record 10th Super Bowl being hosted in South Florida & the 5th in this
building (KR for TD in all 4). Sun Life Stadium is a 76,500 seat venue with a natural grass surface.
Both teams are speed oriented & the defenses will be slowed down some the grass which will benefi t
the QB's. The Saints played here Oct 25th & will be used to the sight lines but many of IND's players
were involved in the rainy night game of SB 41. The NFL spares no expense to ensure a quality playing
surface however they could be hard pressed to provide one with the Pro Bowl being played 7 days
prior. Normally the NFL imports a grass fi eld called Princess 77 for the game costing over $500,000
to install & it gets a month to grow in before its played on. Unlike LY where a large amount of PIT fans
made the trip neither franchise is known for its fans travelling. Both teams will be allotted 17.5% of the
tickets. One third goes to season ticket holders in a lottery system, one third to suite owners & the rest
to the players, coaches & staff. The team hosting the event gets 5% of the tickets, 30% is shared by
the other 30 NFL teams with the league retaining 30% for sponsors & promotions. The avg ticket price
for SB XLIV on the resale market was $2,799 prior to the Championship games. EDGE: NONE


SAINTS #1 OFFENSE VS COLTS #18 DEFENSE - The Saints offense starts with Drew Brees who
is a perfect match for Sean Payton's offensive system. Brees is a rhythm QB who gets better with
momentum making those fi rst 15 scripted plays crucial. Minus the QB rush att's NO was a 55/45 pass
vs run team in 2009. Payton is a very innovative play caller & the NO system spreads the ball around
to various players diffusing opposing defenses. NO had 7 players with 35 or more rec's & 10 players
with 1 TD catch. Brees favorite target is Colston & he has logged 1,000 yds receiving in 3 of the L4Y.
Henderson is the possession WR & 33 of his 54 rec's have gone for FD. Despite Brees coming so
close to Marino's single season passing record in 2008 the offense didn't really click until TY with a
healthy Shockey to exploit the seams in the middle of defenses. Meachem fi nally came into his own
TY as a big play WR (1 TD every 5 rec's) who is able to stretch the fi eld (16.0 ypc is 9th). The 2nd
biggest improvement for NO TY was their run game which avg'd 100 ypg (4.0) LY improving to 132
ypg (4.5) TY (6th). All 3 RB's were hit with injuries TY with Thomas missing 2.5 games due to bruised
ribs. However the Saints emphasize a different RB week to week depending on the foe they are facing.
Thomas is the all purpose RB, Bell the power back & Bush is a multi-role speed/agility back that can
motion out of the backfi eld & play slot. Bush's versatility is another key component to the offense but
he is starting to slow down due to a chronic knee injury. NO returned 4 of 5 starters that developed
together when the OL was rebuilt back in 2006. Brees has only been sacked more than twice in a
game 2 times TY (MIA & DAL) & incl the 2 playoff games he's avg'd 1 sack every 27 att's. RG Jahri
Evans has evolved into arguably the best OG in the NFL despite coming from a Div II school. NO
will have to contend with a very fast IND defense that matches up fairly well in the passing game.
IND's #18 defense isn't that bad considering that Antonio Johnson is a 5th RD DC that was signed
off TEN's practice squad LY & Daniel Muir is 3rd year UFA that was claimed LY off waivers. GM Pioli
likes to state the Colts play the run (25th, 127 ypg, 4.3) on the way to the QB (15th 34 sacks). IND's
offensive success also helps dictate opposing teams tendencies as they play the pass more. This is
the 1st playoff run since the SB win in 2006 that IND had Freeney & Mathis healthy together (22.5
sacks 66% sacks). IND's LB's don't get a lot of credit as they are system LB's that are very fast &
are sure tacklers. IND is one of the NFL's best at not giving up big plays in 2009 & while they give
up yardage in a grinding style they also force teams into mistakes. Brackett is a solid if undersized
MLB & Session is an underrated WLB is a poor man's Derrick Brooks. While IND is a better team
when Bob Sanders plays, the Colts don't miss him as Antoine Bethea had an All-Pro level season &
Melvin Bullitt is solid run stuffer. IND is very specifi c in how it drafts CB's requiring them to be solid
tacklers who are very fast & they tend to get beaten up. IND has given up four 300 yd passing games
TY vs Warner, Schaub & Brady with the 4th coming vs Sanchez in the playoffs when they were in a
prevent defense. They've allowed 229 ypg passing (63%) with a 21-19 ratio with 3 TD's coming vs
BUF. They have only allowed 3 games of 3 passing TD's but will be hard pressed to match that here.
NO's balanced offense has the edge here despite IND's speed. EDGE: SAINTS



COLTS #9 OFFENSE VS SAINTS #25 DEFENSE - IND is the only team since the 2002 realignment
to with double digit wins & playoff appearances. Continuity is the core of the Colts offense as Manning
has had the same OC & OL coach the entire time he's been in the NFL. HC Jim Caldwell was his
QB coach from 2002 until he took over as HC with Frank Reich replacing him. Manning has become
the best statistical QB in the NFL & is keenly aware of his place in the NFL history books. He won
his 4th MVP in 2009 with no less than 5 come from behind 4Q wins en route to a 14-0 start. What
makes 2009 stand out is the fact that he no longer had Marvin Harrison & his replacement Anthony
Gonzalez (knee) was lost after the season opener. Manning was able to force feed Pierre Garçon
& Austin Collie into the Colts system & develop them. He was still able to get Reggie Wayne who is
arguably the 3rd best WR (behind ARZ's Fitzgerald & HOU's Johnson) & Dallas Clark who is one of
the top 5 receiving TE's in the NFL 100 rec's each. Manning's attention to detail in the passing game
over the season helped push Garçon & Collie to a combined 18 rec's (15.2) vs the Jets #1 D. IND has
only avg'd 80 ypg (3.5) rushing the L2Y despite adding Donald Brown in TY's draft. While IND does
struggle in short yardage situations the truth is they view RB's as extra pass blockers & Addai is a
good receiving RB (51 rec, 6.6). IND does an excellent job of developing OL & getting to overachieve.
They are dedicated pass blockers who provide little push at the point of attack & while a lot of credit
goes to Manning they have only given up 1 sack every 40 pass att's TY. IND can be slowed down by
bigger & physical defenses like TEN's LY, JAX in Wk 1 or BAL in the Nov game. Aside from the NFC
Championship game where they unloaded on Favre, NO isn't known for that. Gregg Williams runs an
aggressive blitzing scheme that isn't afraid to come from any angle. Will Smith is the top pass rusher
on the team (13 sacks) but he's not known for his run stopping ability like Charles Grant (torn triceps)
was before landing on IR after TY's season fi nale. DT Ellis took a huge step in development & with
him in the lineup the Saints only allowed 103 ypg (4.2) vs 151 ypg without him. One of the glaring
weaknesses for NO's defense had been the lack of an impact MLB but Vilma has locked the spot
down & is the one player that Williams trusts with changing defensive playcalls on the fi eld. Prior to
2009 the Saints gave up a whopping 79-39 ratio over 3 years. While DC Williams rightfully gets most
of the credit the truth is NO revamped the secondary signing Sharper (9 int), Greer, Tracy Porter is
back from a broken wrist & drafting Jenkins who would be the nickel CB. NO's secondary was very
beat up TY & at one point was without 4 of its top 6 CB's but still fi nished 3rd with 26 reg season int
(GB 30 BUF 28). NO allowed fi ve 300 yd passing games TY but only 1 game with 3 TD passes (WAS).
NO's does have a very dangerous secondary but they don't have the physicality overall to slow down
Manning who will have extra time to break down the defense. EDGE: COLTS



SPECIAL TEAMS - It's not much of a surprise that both teams are at the bottom of our special teams
rankings as the Colts (#31) simply don't spend money in this area. They replaced their special teams
coach & P in the offseason but avg'd a 37.8 net avg (20th). NO's (#30) P Morstead tied for 32nd in
net avg (36.0) but part of the problem for both P's is that their offenses stall in favorable fi eld position
& they aren't allowed to unload like Lechler does with OAK. Both teams have poor PR #'s with IND
avg 5.2 (28th) & NO avg 4.6 (31st). Bush however remains a weapon & had an 83 yd PR TD vs ARZ.
K's have struggled with FG's in the 2009 playoffs (20 of 33) & IND has a huge edge with Stover (569
att's) over Hartley (26 att's) despite his game winning 40 yd FG vs MIN. NO has the edge on KR's (4th)
thanks to Courtney Roby whose 27.5 avg tied for 11th. Both teams have poor KR defenses with NO
being 29th (24.5) & the Colts fi nishing 31st (25.3). Struggling teams generally place more emphasis
on their special teams while good teams have cap issues that prevent their starters from playing there.
Neither team qualifi es for an edge here based on their body of work. EDGE: NONE



COACHING - For the 3rd time in 4 years a member of the Tony Dungy coaching tree will appear in the
Super Bowl. Jim Caldwell was an assistant coach with IND in SB 41 which made the transition from
Dungy's retirement very smooth. Thanks to Manning he was able to bring back OC Tom Moore & OL
coach Howard Mudd for another year keeping that side of the ball together. He did bring in a new DC in
Larry Coyer who set up a system for bigger DT's but kept the overall team speed intact. He also hired a
new special teams coach in Ray Rychleski & while those results haven't moved IND up the rankings they
didn't cost them any games like LY's Wildcard loss to SD. Sean Payton is a former AFL QB who came
into the league as a QB coach for Jim Fassel & Ray Rhodes. His career blossomed under Bill Parcells
as he helped develop Romo into a starting QB. Payton is widely regarded as the best offensive oriented
HC in currently the NFL. Payton made the highly publicized & successful move (chipping in $250K of his
own salary) to hire Gregg Williams as his DC. NO's defense was 11th after the 1st 7 games but injuries
& the offensive play style saw them decline as the season went along. Both teams have solid offensive
coaches & really the defenses are in the 1st year of new DC so there are no edges. EDGE: NONE



PAST HISTORY MATCHUP & INTANGIBLES - The last meeting between these teams was the 2007
NFL season opener where IND shredded NO 41-10 as a 6 pt HF. IND had a massive emotional edge in
their 1st game since their SB win & NO was pressing too hard to be perfect after the NFC Championship
loss. NO DC Williams is very familiar with Manning having been the TEN DC from '97-'00, BUF's HC from
'01-'03, the WAS DC in '07 & the JAX DC in '08. He is 2-5 SU & 1-5-1 ATS vs Manning with his defenses
allowing 285 ypg (65%) with a 13-4 ratio with 7 sacks. Both teams carry themselves very well in the media
& there isn't likely to be any "bulletin board" material here. NO does have the emotional boost of their 1st
SB in franchise history & will be playing for themselves & the city. While the media will try to play up Archie
Manning's involvement with both franchises here it won't carry weight on the fi eld. EDGE: NONE



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Arizona,
I think you have to take his records on what he is good at, and what he is bad at. I have always said, that he is bad at certain sports, and good at others.

I think where we differ is that you want to do the old IC system, with his new IC system. You can't have it both ways.

I do, do his 1 POD per day system - In the Sports that he is good at. For example, I follow him for college basketball. I do not follow him for the NBA. I follow him in MLB and WNBA - but I do not follow him in the NFL. I follow him in Bowl Season and NFL Playoffs.

I do appreciate you following him though. I'm just saying, you have to take him at what sports he is good at and leave him to what sports he is bad at. This is how you make money. If you blindly follow him in all sports, then yes, you will get burned.

IC "Good" Sports:
College Basketball
NFL Playoffs (4-0 lifetime)
Superbowl (3-0 lifetime)
WNBA
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If you play all of his games, I completely agree with you, one will lose money. But, if you know what sports he is good on, then, yes, I think you will money. The Old IC system of 1 POD is long gone I think man. I'm just glad he didn't do even more plays and is sticking to 1 POD per sport. And, why can't a guy change? Why can't he say that you know what, instead of doing 1 POD per day overall, I'm going to do 1 POD per sport. I do think this has something to do with him getting "bigger", but at least he still practices selectivity. Compared to other cappers, he does 7 CBB plays a week and 7 NBA Plays a week. That is still in the upper 10% or maybe even 5% of cappers in the country in selectivity.

Again man, I have no hard feelings towards you, I just think you have to take IC for what he is good at, and you have to leave him for what he is bad at, that's all.

You are really funny guy, honestly. I mean, who knows in advance how the season will go? You don't play his NBA this year, please tell us what you will not be playing next year. You are the wise guy, because you follow his profitable plays ony. Smarter than IC himself. :lolBIG:

Please, go deeper in this and develop the system to play only his hot streaks because obviously this is what you are pointing out in your posts. He had almost achieved GOLDEN-SHOWER week in NBA, loosing 4 grands for his "customers". Why the hell didn't he promote this on his site? :103631605
 

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Actually, this thread appears to be a pissing contest between AZ and Print and not worth taking the few minutes I just took to read it. Why have a Fade thread with noone posting the plays until AFTER the games so noone really knows if they were the legit plays or not?
AZ- you say you bought the plays as part of a group so you won't post the plays as part of your loyalty to your group or something? Your group is either losing their asses tailing his picks or winning by fading......pretty simple really. Either way, you should post the plays if you want this to be a legit thread. If you want some $$$$ to help with the cost of the picks from a few of us, I'm sure we would chip in via Paypal so you could post his plays with a clear conscience! Make sense? Let's do it! @):)
 

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Actually, this thread appears to be a pissing contest between AZ and Print and not worth taking the few minutes I just took to read it. Why have a Fade thread with noone posting the plays until AFTER the games so noone really knows if they were the legit plays or not?
AZ- you say you bought the plays as part of a group so you won't post the plays as part of your loyalty to your group or something? Your group is either losing their asses tailing his picks or winning by fading......pretty simple really. Either way, you should post the plays if you want this to be a legit thread. If you want some $$$$ to help with the cost of the picks from a few of us, I'm sure we would chip in via Paypal so you could post his plays with a clear conscience! Make sense? Let's do it! @):)


You are off base somewhat. I would not expect you to read through 6 pages of posts, but if you didn't then you should not make assumptions.
If you did read through the 6 pages you would have read my repeated point of this thread.

1. I am tracking IC for the benefit of others who may be interested in purchasing his plays for themselves. As someone who is always looking for good information and solid cappers I find it beneficial when people actually track someone and have documented results to share.

2. I have been an avid follower for years and made a lot of money following IC when he posted for free. It became clear to me over the last 18 months that he is no longer the capper he once was. MY assertion was that it was because he got away from doing what he did for 2+ years when he hit over 60% , which was playing ONE PLAY PER DAY, PERIOD. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was working just as hard and doing all of the same things he was prior. With that assumption my prevailing thought was that he just wasn't good at playing more than his top play per day. I did not just make this up out of the blue. As a follower for several years I have seen him step out literally dozens of times and give out more than 1 POD. When he did that he still NOTED to his followers (when he was free) what his POD was. The NON PODs always lost more than they won....ALWAYS. So I am not surprised that he is releasing 2 and sometimes 3 plays a day and his win % has dropped to 53%.

It's pretty simple. If he is capable of hitting 60% on his top play, but his 2nd play hits 45% he is going to average 52.5% which is break even after vig. The last 3 months of hitting 45% is the exception for him, but that's what happens when you are a 53% capper and hit a rough stretch....you now hit 45%. If you play one play per day and hit 60% and then go on a rough stretch you might just break even, rather than lose a bunch of money.

Now, as far as Print and I. He has tried to be objective, but can't. He is an IC follower and wants to still believe (even after nearly 18 months of break even capping) that IC is a good capper. Fact is, he isn't. IC has jumped the shark. FOR whatever reason I don't know for sure, but I for one would like to see him go back to 1 POD and let's see how he does for a while. Might be he just doesn't have it, but common sense says you don't hit 61% on 700 plays over 2 years and just forget. It's either effort or a tactical error, I lean toward the latter.

As far as sharing plays. It's not too difficult to figure out. I co-purchase plays with others for several different cappers. MY aggreement with these different people for different cappers is we don't share except with the people who purchased. Most of the cappers I follow there is just one or two others that purchased and I stick to my word. Sorry if anyone doesn't like that, but I really don't give a shit.

One might ask, why bother? Why not just move on?
Well, first I am hoping others do not waste their time buying IC. Never like to see people lose money on losing cappers. Next, this is the only way he will even consider changing his strategy. He chooses not to be 3rd party monitored so this is the best I can do. Yes, I could just walk away, and I will at some point if things don't change, but I know this guy can WIN if he wants to. This is my tough love approach with him. Expose him for what he has truly become in an atempt to get him to change. He has about 3 months left to convince me he can/will change.
If this were any other capper I would have just moved by now, but I am keeping my fingers crossed that he sees the error of his ways before it's too late. I'm already bought into the package so I may as well fight back. Like or not, your opinion. If not, hit the back button and open another thread.

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He went 8-5 last week Zona.
5-2 in the CBB
3-3 in the NBA

He went 3-1 on Sunday, but lost the super bowl pick, but ended up profiting in the playoffs as expected, he always does well in bowl season and thep playoffs.

Sunday:
4* NBA: Under Celtics/Magic (W)
4* CBB: Maryland -6.5 over UNC (W)
6* NFL: Colts over Saints (L)
3* NFL: Colts/Saints Under (W)

And, I agree Zona', he was much better doing 1 POD per day. He hit 61% after 700 plays, no doubt. But, who knows, maybe he thinks he can figure this out too and hit that same amount in the NBA and CBB. Heck, even if he hits 55% in both of those sports doing 1 POD that's all that it will take.

He did figure it out in Football when he did just two plays per weekend in the NFL, one 6* selection and one 3* selection. He was doing 3 Plays a weekend in Football, and was starting to cash, won 5 of 6 weekends, the rest of the season was dismal.

It will be interesting to see if he can make the 7 POD's per the NBA and CBB work. I'll give him credit, he did make it work for Baseball and WNBA. I'm just saying let's hold out and see if makes it work as he has done it in other sports, maybe he will do it in the NBA as well - seems like he figured out football in the tail end.

He Passed in the NBA Today.
My guess he is on Fairfield, the dog over Siena.
 

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0-1 cbb

sunday
1-0 nba
1-0 cbb
1-1 Superbowl, lost 6u on colts, won 3 u on under.


Record update through Feb 7

2009/10 season
39-56 NBA
41%

2009/10 season
47-41 in CBB
53%

CFB Starting NOV 12
7-12 end of regular season and bowls
37%

NFL Starting Nov 15
12-20
38%

All sports combined since start of NBA 2009 season and this thread
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OVERALL TOTALS 26-28

Accu-Picks 1-0
GOY Phoenix-WINNER

ALATEX 0-1
GOY Rice -3-Lost

ATSKINGS 2-2
GOY Georgetown Hoyas -2-WINNER
Total of Month Spurs/Blazers Over 194-Lost
GOM GEORGE MASON- Lost
GOW KENT ST GOLDEN FLASHES -WINNER

BIG AL's 1-0
TOTAL OF THE YEAR Colts/Saints Under-WINNER

BEN BURNS 4-3
TOTAL OF THE MONTH! Colts/Saints Under -WINNER
GAME OF THE MONTH & GOY NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -WINNER
GOM- Nashville Predators -145- Lost
GOW-Indiana Pacers +1-WINNER
GOW Houston Rockets-3.5-Lost
TOTAL OF MONTH! Xavier under- WINNER
Total of the month Blazers/Utah under 195.5- Lost

BET-ONE(betonepicks) 0-1
POW Washington Capitals/Florida Over 6- Lost

Nick "BookieKiller" Parsons 0-1
GOY Texas -6.5-Lost

CARLO CAMPANELLA 0-1
GOY Tennessee-7-Lost

Cal Sports. 1-0
GOY Akron Zips - 13.-WINNER

CHRIS JORDAN 1-0
GAME OF THE YEAR PACIFIC TIGERS-3.5-WINNER

Computer Crushers Guaranteed Selections 1-0
GAME OF THE YEAR Drexel -6-WINNER

DESTROY THE BOOK SPORTS 0-1
GOY Marshall+1.5- Lost

Doc's 2-1
Totals Game of Month Detroit/Indiana UNDER 200-WINNER
Game of the Week Charlotte/Portland UNDER 189 ½-WINNER
GOY DUKE -1.5-Lost

Ferringo 0-2
GOY Columbia +8.5 - Lost & 1st half +4.5 - Lost

Great Lakes Sports 0-1
GOY Wichita St-13-Lost

GOODFELLA. 1-0
GOW Atlanta -7.5-WINNER

Lenny Del Geno 0-1
GOY Indianapolis Colts -5-LOST

JIMMY BOYD 0-2
Massacre of the Year GS Warriors +7 - Lost
Game of the Month Minnesota +7 -Lost

JOHN RYAN 1-0
Game of the Month Charlotte 49ers +1.5 -WINNER

KIKKI SPORTS 4-3
GOM LOCK Pittsburgh -2-Lost
GOY Kentucky-8-WINNER
GOM Missouri -6-WINNER
GOY Lakers- WINNER
GOM Bradley- Lost
Lock GOYMarquette-WINNER
Lock GOY Virginia-Lost

Larry Ness 1-1
GOW! Golden State Warriors- Lost
GAME OF THE YEAR!Canisius- WINNER

Mr. East. 0-1
GAME OF THE YEAR5* Indianapolis Colts, -5.5 -LOST

RED ZONE SPORTS 1-0
Game of the Month Duke -12.5-WINNER

RINKPLAY SPORTS 1-0
Game of the Month !5*New York Rangers-WINNER

Stu F-E-I-N-E-R 0-2
500,000,000-Dime Super Bowl Private Play
Indianapolis Colts -5-LOST
Indianapolis Colts Money Line-210-LOST

The Hammer 0-1
TOTAL PLAY OF THE MONTH Butler/Wisconsin Milwaukee under 132.5 -Lost

TONY K/3 G SPORTS. 1-0
Underdog Game of the Month MARYLAND +3-WINNER

The Basketball Expert.0-1
GOY North Carolina +3.5-Lost

The Experts 2-0
GAME OF THE YEAR Ohio St -7-WINNER
GAME OF THE YEAR Baylor +9-WINNER

TRIPLE CROWN SPORTS 0-1
Game of the Month Northern Iowa -1.5-Lost

WAYNE ROOT 1-0
GOY Georgetown+2 over Duke-WINNER
 
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vegassportsbeat
11-1 RUN (93%)
NO PLAYS FOUND FOR SUNDAY

Atskings
Tony Taylor
9-3 RUN (86%)
3* Indianapolis Colts, Under 57 -WINNER
3* Indianapolis Colts, Under 63 (2 TEAM 6 POINT TEASER)-LOST

FEEDMECAPPERS
22-4 TOTALS RUN (85%)

PRIMETIME SPORTS ADVISOR
14-3 RUN (82%)
40 Units Indianapolis Colts -4.5-Lost
10 Units OVER 56.5-Lost-Lost

Atskings
Rex Rodgers
7-2 RUN (78%)
5* Under Colts/Saints 57-WON
3* Under Colts/Saints 57-WON
3* 2 Team 6 Point Teaser Colts +1 Under 63-LOSS

KillerSportsLive KSL
21-7 RUN (75%)
10* New Orleans Saints, +5-Winner
10* New Orleans Saints, Under 56-Winner
10* South Florida Bulls, +7-Winner
10* Toronto Raptors, -8-Winner
Bonus Play Syracuse -4-Winner

Matt "Lillefty" Dennehy
28-10 RUN (74%)
2* Iona -14-LOST

THE BOOOOJ
12-5 RUN (71%)
50 units on Indianapolis (-5) over New Orleans-LOST
15 units on Under 57-WON
5 unit parlay of Indianapolis/Under-LOST
 

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vegassportsbeat
11-1 RUN (93%)
NO PLAYS FOUND FOR SUNDAY

Atskings
Tony Taylor
9-3 RUN (86%)
3* Indianapolis Colts, Under 57 -WINNER
3* Indianapolis Colts, Under 63 (2 TEAM 6 POINT TEASER)-LOST

FEEDMECAPPERS
22-4 TOTALS RUN (85%)

PRIMETIME SPORTS ADVISOR
14-3 RUN (82%)
40 Units Indianapolis Colts -4.5-Lost
10 Units OVER 56.5-Lost-Lost

Atskings
Rex Rodgers
7-2 RUN (78%)
5* Under Colts/Saints 57-WON
3* Under Colts/Saints 57-WON
3* 2 Team 6 Point Teaser Colts +1 Under 63-LOSS

KillerSportsLive KSL
21-7 RUN (75%)
10* New Orleans Saints, +5-Winner
10* New Orleans Saints, Under 56-Winner
10* South Florida Bulls, +7-Winner
10* Toronto Raptors, -8-Winner
Bonus Play Syracuse -4-Winner

Matt "Lillefty" Dennehy
28-10 RUN (74%)
2* Iona -14-LOST

THE BOOOOJ
12-5 RUN (71%)
50 units on Indianapolis (-5) over New Orleans-LOST
15 units on Under 57-WON
5 unit parlay of Indianapolis/Under-LOST

add LINECHANGERS to that list despite losing with the colts last night.
46-23 in ncaa bball this year
 

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double-dime bet 716 Texas 2.0 (-110) Bodog vs 715 Kansas

Fade this, this dumbass only wins when he thieves plays from PittViper, Vegas-Runner, and other cappers. This was actually a play of his own he released last night. This guy is a complete fraud and play stealer.
 
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