I think that the winning percentages of 55% is a good number but there is another factor to consider. What about those cappers whose focus may have been on football up until say the end of the bowl season? Personally, I was below or near 50% during that time but I have been since mid Jan at 61% approx. I am more interested in those cappers that are hot for the past 30-60 days than those that were hot to start the year but have fallen off.
Guys! Just a comment. Very few handicappers show their results in winning percentages only in units. You would need some criteria over time to establish a legitimate percentage. If you look closely at the wins and losses, you would need to calculate to determine the percentage and some of your favorite handicappers don't show there wins and losses over any stretch of time. Something you may wish to consider.
Kojak and Dano, the fact is, everything regresses to it's mean, in time. If you can't handicapp football, but you are a good basketball capper, you should post in this thread, and, vice versa. I think that, unless you have proven yourself in seasons past, you should have to prove yourself in being able to hit 55%+ consistently to post in this thread. Otherwise, it's simply a thread with a lot of square plays, and some sharp plays.
For example, Kojak, if those number are correct, in my ideal thread, you would be posting in the college hoops thread, but not in the college football thread.
Let's start off with a basis of a group of guys we can ALL agree on, shall we? How about the guys that I posted up above, as well as Pitbull, who I forgot? Does that sound fair, to start?
Any thoughts?
For example, Kojak, if those number are correct, in my ideal thread, you would be posting in the college hoops thread, but not in the college football thread.
Let's start off with a basis of a group of guys we can ALL agree on, shall we? How about the guys that I posted up above, as well as Pitbull, who I forgot? Does that sound fair, to start?
Any thoughts?
Dano, I agree, and, although Pit hasn't proven it over time, I can agree, and most everyone else can agree that he is very hot, and would certainly be an asset to that group.
Ted, most of the cappers that I mentioned do post their won/lost records. For example.
Mr. Green 118-85, 58%
Low Tide 118-84, 58%
NCAA Hoopster, 85-64, 57%
For those that don't, maybe we can ask them?
JP
Ted, most of the cappers that I mentioned do post their won/lost records. For example.
Mr. Green 118-85, 58%
Low Tide 118-84, 58%
NCAA Hoopster, 85-64, 57%
For those that don't, maybe we can ask them?
JP
In addition to the fact that, at this point, we can agree to the basics of the thread, but, we are stuck on semantics. I think most people can agree as to who the best cappers on this board are. We can throw Matt into the mix if you guys want. That would be fine. How about the following list? Any thoughts?
Matt
Pitbull
Kodiak
Co Captain
Lewis
Action
NY Reb
Allstar
Tigerclicks (only 4* plays)
Mr. Green
NCAA Hoopster
Low Tide
That is a nice list of 12 excellent cappers. If we started there, we could get a good feel for who the best cappers on this board are on in any one particular day. As we go along, maybe we can add people? The problem is, Dano, it's alot easier to add someone than to tell someone politely not to post anymore, so, as to avoid that, what I proposed initially was maybe that we be a bit more discerning with who posted on the thread. Do you get my drift? The way the board is, if someone was asked not to post anymore, you know it would start a flame war, and, if everyone that was hot was allowed to post, it would soon be a thread with 50-100 people posting, most of whom couldn't hit more than 50% over the long haul. Please comment on the above list and wha tyou think.
JP
Matt
Pitbull
Kodiak
Co Captain
Lewis
Action
NY Reb
Allstar
Tigerclicks (only 4* plays)
Mr. Green
NCAA Hoopster
Low Tide
That is a nice list of 12 excellent cappers. If we started there, we could get a good feel for who the best cappers on this board are on in any one particular day. As we go along, maybe we can add people? The problem is, Dano, it's alot easier to add someone than to tell someone politely not to post anymore, so, as to avoid that, what I proposed initially was maybe that we be a bit more discerning with who posted on the thread. Do you get my drift? The way the board is, if someone was asked not to post anymore, you know it would start a flame war, and, if everyone that was hot was allowed to post, it would soon be a thread with 50-100 people posting, most of whom couldn't hit more than 50% over the long haul. Please comment on the above list and wha tyou think.
JP
jcambert,
I think you misunderstood my post. I said that my main focus up until early to mid January was football not basketball though I posted some basketball. The point I was making is that when I turned my focus exclusively to basketball the percentages went way up. How you guys want to do it is up to you, but I think that people know who the best are and there are some that are great cappers who may be left off this post that we may frustrate. We are a forum that encourages new posters so that we can build up the prescription even further not discourage new people from joining and excluding them. I think a better idea would be to have someone keep track of the records of all posters like a service would on all games vs the paticular handicapper posting their record. Having someone impartial keeping records though time consuming would stop a lot of the bashing we have had altogether of people bringing up other's record. Just my 2 cents.
I think you misunderstood my post. I said that my main focus up until early to mid January was football not basketball though I posted some basketball. The point I was making is that when I turned my focus exclusively to basketball the percentages went way up. How you guys want to do it is up to you, but I think that people know who the best are and there are some that are great cappers who may be left off this post that we may frustrate. We are a forum that encourages new posters so that we can build up the prescription even further not discourage new people from joining and excluding them. I think a better idea would be to have someone keep track of the records of all posters like a service would on all games vs the paticular handicapper posting their record. Having someone impartial keeping records though time consuming would stop a lot of the bashing we have had altogether of people bringing up other's record. Just my 2 cents.
Fair enough, Kojak, but, who is going to volunteer to that? It would be tough to maintain for any length of time. I agree with you in that most people on here know who the good cappers are.
Actually, I forgot to mention your name in my post above. And, please know that the intention of the thread WOULD be to help people, not to exclude people. People would never be discouraged from posting to their own thread, however, I feel that, in order for this proposed thread to be a big help, we would need to be discerning as to who should post...that's all. Once someone proves himself in their own thread, over some time, they would be invited to post to this thread. Do you catch my drift?
JP
Actually, I forgot to mention your name in my post above. And, please know that the intention of the thread WOULD be to help people, not to exclude people. People would never be discouraged from posting to their own thread, however, I feel that, in order for this proposed thread to be a big help, we would need to be discerning as to who should post...that's all. Once someone proves himself in their own thread, over some time, they would be invited to post to this thread. Do you catch my drift?
JP
jcambert:
Agree that some do. Some of the one's mentioned don't however, including Co-Captain, Allstar, NY Reb, etc who are all fine handicappers. My point is that you will find it not easy to have many that will consistently have a winning percentage of 55%. While many are wonderfully hot right now, things can change rather quickly. If you want such a thread, just agree on those handicappers you wish to include and go from there. Lastly, I don't expect to be invited as I don't meet the criteria you are looking for and that is understood by this oldman. There would be no hard feelings here. This is your forum and you should try to accomplish what you wish. Hope you succeed in what you are trying to do. Best of luck to all.
Agree that some do. Some of the one's mentioned don't however, including Co-Captain, Allstar, NY Reb, etc who are all fine handicappers. My point is that you will find it not easy to have many that will consistently have a winning percentage of 55%. While many are wonderfully hot right now, things can change rather quickly. If you want such a thread, just agree on those handicappers you wish to include and go from there. Lastly, I don't expect to be invited as I don't meet the criteria you are looking for and that is understood by this oldman. There would be no hard feelings here. This is your forum and you should try to accomplish what you wish. Hope you succeed in what you are trying to do. Best of luck to all.
Actually, even a better idea. Why not start a contest that we track from now until the end of the year. No limit on plays but a minimum of 1 game a day for consistency purposes. This would solve the problem of tracking, having best in one spot, opening it up to new posters, and give us an accurate basis to judge everyone including new posters. This would expose the geniune new posters and the fraudelent ones by the only thing that matters which is wins. Off of this contest thread we could have a deadline time to post, and then do a summary post of the games that top cappers agree on. Any thoughts?
Kojak, there's already a POD thread, and, I don't think that's what we are looking for here (Dano, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
I think that Ted makes sense. Can we just agree as to who should post here, at least initially? Did I forget someone in my list directly above of thirteen cappers?
JP
I think that Ted makes sense. Can we just agree as to who should post here, at least initially? Did I forget someone in my list directly above of thirteen cappers?
JP
Kojak, again, I don't think that's what we are after here. We aren't looking for PODs. We are looking for ALL of these guys' plays. And, as for Ted, he obviously knows what he's doing, but, he has been barely above 50% in college hoops this year. He has admitted that football is his strongest sport, capping wise.
Again, I think if you are after PODs, check out the other thread, as you can see who's hot and who's not, and follow them accordingly. What we are looking for here is one easy to navigate thread with all the best capper's plays (all of the plays), on a daily basis. It's just a matter of agreeing as to who should be posting. If someone gets offended, that's just too bad. Ted was adult enough to acknowledge "no hard feelings" and, hopefully everyone would be adult enough to feel the same way.
JP
Again, I think if you are after PODs, check out the other thread, as you can see who's hot and who's not, and follow them accordingly. What we are looking for here is one easy to navigate thread with all the best capper's plays (all of the plays), on a daily basis. It's just a matter of agreeing as to who should be posting. If someone gets offended, that's just too bad. Ted was adult enough to acknowledge "no hard feelings" and, hopefully everyone would be adult enough to feel the same way.
JP
jcambert:
I would prefer not to comment on anyone as I have my own opinions on who are the truly capable handicappers and who are not. Also, I do not want to offend anyone on this forum should I mention or not mention their name. This is an idea that you have and I leave it to you to establish your list as you so please. Hopefully, it will work out for you in the manner that you desire and not become a problem to the forum which currently is doing so well for it's members and viewers.
I would prefer not to comment on anyone as I have my own opinions on who are the truly capable handicappers and who are not. Also, I do not want to offend anyone on this forum should I mention or not mention their name. This is an idea that you have and I leave it to you to establish your list as you so please. Hopefully, it will work out for you in the manner that you desire and not become a problem to the forum which currently is doing so well for it's members and viewers.
