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The sabbath. Wow. In my brief venture into relegion before I wised up. ( A very long time ago) I was a seventh day adventist because of the belief the sabbath is really saturday. It just made sense to me. But it's another example of how the words of the bible can be twisted any way.
 

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DEAC, many Christians consider the resurrection of JC as having provided an eternal waiver on all the Old Testament alleged commandments from God.

Which is admittedly handy for those moments when one wants to do something unGodly, but doesn't want to blow the ticket into Heaven

Now if my Jewish wife were to work on Saturday, as she has for the past, oh......30 years, she'd likely be subject to execution.

Though it would appear that in the 21st century, even the Jews seem to have flushed most of those OT capital crimes
 

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Yeah, the New Covenent arguement. Pretty easy copout, IMO. It allows them to quote the OT about gays, tattoos, etc. but ignore all the nasty parts like how to properly beat your slave.
 
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I'm interested in how you spin this.

Exodus 35:2 (King James Version)


<sup class="versenum" id="en-KJV-2534" value="2">2</sup>Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

No "spin" needed. But a factual response is forthcoming below.

The Mosaic Law was a temporal law intended for the people of Israel at the time.

This is clearly spelled out in the book that you quote.

Exodus 19:3

<sup id="en-NIV-2030" class="versenum" value="3">3</sup> Then Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain and said, "This is what you are to say to the house of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: <sup id="en-NIV-2031" class="versenum" value="4">4</sup> 'You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles' wings and brought you to myself. <sup id="en-NIV-2032" class="versenum" value="5">5</sup> Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, <sup id="en-NIV-2033" class="versenum" value="6">6</sup> you <sup class="footnote" value="[<a href="#fen-NIV-2033a" title="See footnote a">a</a>]">[a]</sup> will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites."

The sentence that you conveniently omitted before Exodus 19:2 says:

<sup id="en-NIV-2533" class="versenum" value="1">1</sup> Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them:


Besides the whole New Testament talks about how the old Testament or "covenant" has been replaced by the New Testament or New Covenant.

Read the book of Hebrews, the whole book explains it in great detail.

I trust that now that you have my answer you will sleep better tonight.
 
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no, no. It's not that they would neccesarily oppose your smart thinking plans, but rather that so many of them (police and military) would themselves be slotted for deportation on at least a few of the long list of offenses you've included in this thread so far.

you are assuming that...i say you are wrong...i say they would as for the most part...welcome the changes.
 
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Yeah, the New Covenent arguement. Pretty easy copout, IMO. It allows them to quote the OT about gays, tattoos, etc. but ignore all the nasty parts like how to properly beat your slave.

Again DEAC showing his blatant ignorance. No need to quote the OT
about gays, there is plenty in the New Testament.

And as far as slavery, nowhere does the Bible condone slavery. It does
not tell how to properly beat a slave, that is an outright lie.
 
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In fact i say the majority of the people here in the usa would welcome the changes they would emmediatly see when we started deporting all the foreigners....i would bet all i have on it...know it for a fact...because i know what would happen as we got rid of the thieves...because that is really basically all they are...
 
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And they sure as fuck dont act like they do in their country...fuck no...they would get the shit beat out of them or killed...they come here and act like they own the place...and i know i am not the only 1 that is fucking sick and tired of it.
 
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Go down there to mexico and act like these mexicans do here and see what happens to you...go over ther to china and act like these chinese do here over there and see what happens to you...go to russia and act like these russians do here and see what happens to you...in fact go to any country in the world and cross over into their country with out a visa and see what happens to you when they catch you...
 

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Again DEAC showing his blatant ignorance. No need to quote the OT
about gays, there is plenty in the New Testament.

And as far as slavery, nowhere does the Bible condone slavery. It does
not tell how to properly beat a slave, that is an outright lie.

The trick is to beat the shit out of them, but make sure they don't die immediately:

Ex 21:20-21


20 When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. <SUP class=ww>21</SUP>But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property.

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Oh, and if you ever want to sell your daughter, god tells you the proper way:

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11)

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Wow...even Jesus give helpful tips to slaves:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2)



That Jesus...always being helpful.
 

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Yeah, the New Covenent arguement. Pretty easy copout, IMO. It allows them to quote the OT about gays, tattoos, etc. but ignore all the nasty parts like how to properly beat your slave.

Or your woman

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I dont give a fuck if any of you dont believe that god did what they say he did in the holy bible or if you like him or if you think 1 way or another about him...as for me...i am on his side and i like him no matter what he has done or is doing or will do...i dont give a fuck what any of you say or do or think about it...he is my God...end of story

AND I AM NOT NO CHRISTIAN...I AM NOT ANYTHING BUT ME....AND IF I WAS IN CHARGE...YOU WOULD SWEAR AN OATH TO MY GOD OR BE DEPORTED...THAT IS JUST THE FUCKING WAY IT WOULD BE.
 

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I'm working towards my OT 6 in scientology. I dont have time for that king james stuff.
 

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Bar there was another nitwit/windup artist who posted here awhile back that always put 3 or 4 of these "...." between his garblings.
 
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The trick is to beat the shit out of them, but make sure they don't die immediately:

Ex 21:20-21


20 When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. <sup class="ww">21</sup>But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property.

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Oh, and if you ever want to sell your daughter, god tells you the proper way:

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11)

_______________________

Wow...even Jesus give helpful tips to slaves:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2)



That Jesus...always being helpful.

Since DEAC is so interested in slavery in the bible, I will direct him
and any interested readers to this excellent resource.

Note, that it shows the verses and context that DEAC conveniently
omitted from his post:

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qnoslave.html

For those that want the condensed version, the Exodus laws are there
to protect slaves from evil masters. The english word slave has
many meanings in the Hebrew:

"The word >ebed, however, denoted not only actual slaves occupied in production or in the household but also persons in subordinate positions (mainly subordinate with regard to the king and his higher officials). Thus the term >ebed is sometimes translated as “servant.” Besides, the term was used as a sign of servility in reference to oneself when addressing persons of higher rank. Finally, the same term was also used in the figurative meaning “the slave (or servant) of God.” Thus, the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prophets, David, Solomon and other kings are regularly called slaves of Yahweh (Exod 32:13; Lev 25:55; 1 Sam 3:9; Ezra 9:11, etc.). Similarly, all the subjects of Israel and Judah are called slaves of their kings, including even wives, sons, and brothers of the latter (1 Sam 17:8; 29:3; 2 Sam 19:5, etc.; cf. also Gen 27:37; 32:4). Addressing Moses and prophets, the Israelites called themselves their slaves (Num 32:25; 1 Sam 12:19, etc.). Ruth refers to herself as a slave girl of her relative Boaz (Ruth 3:9). Being a vassal of the Philistine king Achish, David called himself his slave (1 Sam 28:2). It is natural that the same vague and inexplicitly formulated social terminology characteristic of the ANE is also used in the Bible in relation to the subjects of foreign rulers. For example, courtiers of an Aramean ruler or the soldiers of the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II were considered slaves of their monarchs (2 Kgs 6:11; 24:10–11). It is natural that kings of Judah depending on more powerful rulers of neighboring countries were considered their slaves. Thus, Ahaz is referred to as a slave of the Assyrian king Tiglath-pileser III (2 Kgs 16:7). In modern translations of the Bible >ebed/doulos and several other similar terms are rendered “slave” as well as “servant,” “attendant,” etc. Such translations, however, might create some confusion and give the incorrect impression that special terms for the designation of servants and slaves are attested in the Bible…However, selecting the proper meaning from such a broad metaphorical application of the term designating a general dependence rarely presents great difficulty. For example, Abimelech, king of Gerar, called up his slaves and told them his dream (Gen 20:8). Apparently, these “slaves” were royal courtiers and officials. Abraham gathered 318 of his slaves, born in his household, in order to recover his kinsman Lot who had been captured by Chedorlaomer and three Mesopotamian kings (Gen 14:14). At least, a part of these persons constituted freeborn members of Abraham’s family. Upon ascending the throne of Judah, Amaziah executed his slaves who had murdered his father, the former king (2 Chr 25:3). These slaves were certainly royal dignitaries. When Josiah, king of Judah, had been killed at Megiddo, his body was taken in a chariot to Jerusalem by his slaves (2 Kgs 23:30). It is quite evident that these slaves were royal soldiers. In a number of cases, however, the interpretation of the actual meaning of the ambiguous >ebed may be disputed. For instance, the steward of Abraham’s household who was in charge of all his possessions is called his slave (Gen 24:2). His status can only conjecturally be interpreted as an indication of actual slavery and, of course, he could have been a freeborn person." [ABD, s.v. "Slavery, Old Testament"]


Also it's not Jesus speaking in 1 Timothy, it's Paul - again DEAC showing
blatant ignorance.
 

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you are assuming that...i say you are wrong...i say they would as for the most part...welcome the changes.

What about all the cops and military that fall into any of the following Deportable categories??

1) Homosexuals
2) Members of PETA
3) Support foreign aid

4) Have family members who are telemarketers
5) Speak a foreign language

are:

6) Jewish
7) Catholic
8) Buddhist
9) Hindu
10) Islamic
11) Atheist
12) Wiccan
13) Catholic
14) FSM denizens

15) Believe in the College Bowl system
16) Have failed to reliably pay child support
17) Fail the "IQ Test"....(and I think we all know that a lot of cops and military people would fit this group)

18) Have family members who sell or install Giant Woofers in cars

are:

19) Divorced
20) Adulterers
21) Had an Abortion
22) Pregnant and Unmarried or
22a) Knocked Up Someone Not Married To

23) Don't Like TheWhiteMan
24) Own Dogs That Bark at 2am (which can be handy when burglars drop by...but hey...rules are rules)

25) Have one or more parents in a nursing home (though I think most of the doctors and nurses would have been deported by this point in the game)


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I think if the above list was applied fairly and without prejudice you might have a few thousand cops or military remaining to try and herd the remaining Two Hundred Ninety Five Million, Nine Hundred Sixty Thousand, Four Hundred and Twenty citizens to their proper gulags.
 
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what about all the cops and military that fall into any of the following deportable categories??

1) homosexuals
2) members of peta
3) support foreign aid

4) have family members who are telemarketers
5) speak a foreign language

are:

6) jewish
7) catholic
8) buddhist
9) hindu
10) islamic
11) atheist
12) wiccan
13) catholic
14) fsm denizens

15) believe in the college bowl system
16) have failed to reliably pay child support
17) fail the "iq test"....(and i think we all know that a lot of cops and military people would fit this group)

18) have family members who sell or install giant woofers in cars

are:

19) divorced
20) adulterers
21) had an abortion
22) pregnant and unmarried or
22a) knocked up someone not married to

23) don't like thewhiteman
24) own dogs that bark at 2am (which can be handy when burglars drop by...but hey...rules are rules)

25) have one or more parents in a nursing home (though i think most of the doctors and nurses would have been deported by this point in the game)


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i think if the above list was applied fairly and without prejudice you might have a few thousand cops or military remaining to try and herd the remaining two hundred ninety five million, nine hundred sixty thousand, four hundred and twenty citizens to their proper gulags.


if all that is really true...what you listed above....

Breaks your heart dont it...

When i was a kid growing up in this country...if you saw a foriegnor...they were polite and acted like they were visitors...now they will tell you to fuck off and get out of their way...police were looked up to...respected and were considered heros and roll modles by the kids...now they cheer and rejoice at the deaths of policemen...there were no kids doing drugs or selling drugs...where i lived...there was no queers or lesbians or atheist dictating policy every where...i could go on and on and on....

The people in this country have sold and gave away this country to fools and perverts and wicked evil doers...there is nothing good for this country down the road....it will just year by year get more and more polluted with the likes of people on jerry springer and all the foreignors that have brought there wickedness and evil with them to this country...

And it breaks my heart...unlike you...you sit around here and make jest of it like its some kind of fucking joke...well...the joke is really on you and people just like you...you will see.

Scotty
 

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if all that is really true...what you listed above....

Breaks your heart dont it...

When i was a kid growing up in this country...if you saw a foriegnor...they were polite and acted like they were visitors...now they will tell you to fuck off and get out of their way...police were looked up to...respected and were considered heros and roll modles by the kids...now they cheer and rejoice at the deaths of policemen...there were no kids doing drugs or selling drugs...where i lived...there was no queers or lesbians or atheist dictating policy every where...i could go on and on and on....

The people in this country have sold and gave away this country to fools and perverts and wicked evil doers...there is nothing good for this country down the road....it will just year by year get more and more polluted with the likes of people on jerry springer and all the foreignors that have brought there wickedness and evil with them to this country...

And it breaks my heart...unlike you...you sit around here and make jest of it like its some kind of fucking joke...well...the joke is really on you and people just like you...you will see.

Scotty

There were all those things you spoke of but it was hidden away behind a curtain. But the curtain has been pulled back on reality. You can't go backwards...but really you sound like an old guy so in a few years you likely won't have to worry about any of it.
 

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if all that is really true...what you listed above....

Breaks your heart dont it...

When i was a kid growing up in this country...if you saw a foriegnor...they were polite and acted like they were visitors...now they will tell you to fuck off and get out of their way...police were looked up to...respected and were considered heros and roll modles by the kids...now they cheer and rejoice at the deaths of policemen...there were no kids doing drugs or selling drugs...where i lived...there was no queers or lesbians or atheist dictating policy every where...i could go on and on and on....

The people in this country have sold and gave away this country to fools and perverts and wicked evil doers...there is nothing good for this country down the road....it will just year by year get more and more polluted with the likes of people on jerry springer and all the foreignors that have brought there wickedness and evil with them to this country...

And it breaks my heart...unlike you...you sit around here and make jest of it like its some kind of fucking joke...well...the joke is really on you and people just like you...you will see.

Scotty


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