thumbs up to my american budies at the rx who are both willing and able to give that dickhead bush the boot, anyway you look at it this rich, priviledged, mental midget should be far better suited for a job of a janitor or something like that, that is, if he could hold on to it given his horrible drug abuse and alcoholism track record and his complete and utter incompetence in pretty much anything. It's a disgrace for such a great country and nation to keep this guy as president, he is the laughing stock of the rest of the world where he is unilaterlary viewed as a, excuse me but that's how the rest of the world views him, a dumb fvck, one of the dumbest around, stupid as mud. Even if imo he or any president doesn't do much in terms of u.s. policy and the power structures are pretty much independent of who is in the oval office, still, dubya arguably deserves the job, the janitors job that is.
ps. no offence to janitors of course who, at least the ones i ve come across, are on the most part decent and hard working people, unlike the filthy rich oil tyccoon and daddy's boy currently posing as the u.s. president.
ps. no offence to janitors of course who, at least the ones i ve come across, are on the most part decent and hard working people, unlike the filthy rich oil tyccoon and daddy's boy currently posing as the u.s. president.
A mere 68% at current count backing Kerry, up from 60% a few days back. Depsite the recent heavy posting by Patriot and Gameface, the tide continues to heavily tilt the other direction. Maybe you guys will come to the conclusion that just like the public in general, the people here aren't impressed with the Republican's attempts to win over the public by bashing Kerry and calling him a liberal every time they open their mouths. Free advice here, give a real reason to vote for Bush instead of "Kerry's a big lib supported by the big lib media".
When the first Tuesday in November rolls around, it will be American citizens voting for the next president.
Unless Junior screws up like his Daddy did, I expect he'll be re-elected.
Kerry is carrying a lot of baggage that the opposition hasn't even touched yet. Wait until October - that's when it'll get interesting.
Unless Junior screws up like his Daddy did, I expect he'll be re-elected.
Kerry is carrying a lot of baggage that the opposition hasn't even touched yet. Wait until October - that's when it'll get interesting.
Throwing out the non-American votes(out of 98 currently), you guys are about to cum over nothing. Votes are worthless. Electoral votes are what counts. Bush could get no votes in every state he loses and win his states by 1 vote and still get the Presidency depending on which states he carries. Gore won the popular vote last time and a lot of good it did him. If you want to help Kerry, move to Florida or one of the other swing states and establish residency now so you can vote in that state instead of the stronghold in which you might currently reside.
Wildbill,
1. I know Bush is not going to raise my taxes. Kerry will.
2. I know Bush is not going to go wobbly defending our great nation. I have no doubt Kerry will.
3. I know Bush is not going to flip-flop on every issue. I know Kerry does it daily depending on who he's speaking to.
4. Bush does'nt engage in class warfare which I hate. Kerry does.
5. I believe Bush is sincerely doing what he believes is right for America. I believe Kerry will do what's best for himself and his party.
6. I believe Bush is real and honorable. I believe Kerry is a complete phoney and doesn't mean or believe half the shit he says.
7. Bush is in the line of fire making the tough calls. Kerry is MIA in the Senate and has missed 70% of the votes this year to avoid making the tough calls.
8. Bush will not defer to the UN. Kerry will.
9. Bush believes in individual responsibility. Kerry believes the government is the way people can make it, gov. handouts.
10. Kerry believes you're rich if you're a couple making 90K, Bush doesn't.
I could come up with 100 reasons.
Can you say why to vote for Kerry other than you want Bush out? What ever reason you could come up with could change the next day because Kerry doesn't stand for anything except acquiring power at all cost.
1. I know Bush is not going to raise my taxes. Kerry will.
2. I know Bush is not going to go wobbly defending our great nation. I have no doubt Kerry will.
3. I know Bush is not going to flip-flop on every issue. I know Kerry does it daily depending on who he's speaking to.
4. Bush does'nt engage in class warfare which I hate. Kerry does.
5. I believe Bush is sincerely doing what he believes is right for America. I believe Kerry will do what's best for himself and his party.
6. I believe Bush is real and honorable. I believe Kerry is a complete phoney and doesn't mean or believe half the shit he says.
7. Bush is in the line of fire making the tough calls. Kerry is MIA in the Senate and has missed 70% of the votes this year to avoid making the tough calls.
8. Bush will not defer to the UN. Kerry will.
9. Bush believes in individual responsibility. Kerry believes the government is the way people can make it, gov. handouts.
10. Kerry believes you're rich if you're a couple making 90K, Bush doesn't.
I could come up with 100 reasons.
Can you say why to vote for Kerry other than you want Bush out? What ever reason you could come up with could change the next day because Kerry doesn't stand for anything except acquiring power at all cost.
"1. I know Bush is not going to raise my taxes. Kerry will."
Of course not, he'll let the next administration inherit the ridiculous debt he's incurred in Iraq, Reagan taught us that trick.
"2. I know Bush is not going to go wobbly defending our great nation. I have no doubt Kerry will."
Yes bush2's conviction to go ahead and attack nations, just cause or not, is inspiring.
"3. I know Bush is not going to flip-flop on every issue. I know Kerry does it daily depending on who he's speaking to."
That's right, bush2 sticks to his plans no matter how right or wrong, no matter what the public that supposedly elected him wants.
"4. Bush does'nt engage in class warfare which I hate. Kerry does."
Again right, the bushes prefer to keep theirs among the rich elite and maintain their blueblood ties to the English royality. And then also, of course, in classic repub-economic form simply forget the poor class while implementing policies beneficial only to the wealthy.
"5. I believe Bush is sincerely doing what he believes is right for America. I believe Kerry will do what's best for himself and his party."
Well doing what you believe is right and believing your on a mission from God aren't exactly the same thing.
"6. I believe Bush is real and honorable. I believe Kerry is a complete phoney and doesn't mean or believe half the shit he says."
Real? Or real dumb? That's what the "real" feeling in candidates that the repub party strives for really means. Honorable???? Ha! He refuses to talk about his drug past, went AWOL from the National Guard, fixed an election and is willing to attack nations without provacation.
"7. Bush is in the line of fire making the tough calls. Kerry is MIA in the Senate and has missed 70% of the votes this year to avoid making the tough calls."
The only thing he's had tough is justifying his unjustifiable acts to the American public and the world.
"8. Bush will not defer to the UN. Kerry will."
Yes God forbid we actually try to participate as a part the global community in which we live and do business.
"9. Bush believes in individual responsibility. Kerry believes the government is the way people can make it, gov. handouts."
No bush2 believes in traditional repub economics, appease the rich and phuck the poor.
"10. Kerry believes you're rich if you're a couple making 90K, Bush doesn't."
I don't know that 90k makes a couple rich and don't know if Kerry believes that or not either, but obviously that couple should pay more tax than a couple living on 35k.
"I could come up with 100 reasons.
Can you say why to vote for Kerry other than you want Bush out? What ever reason you could come up with could change the next day because Kerry doesn't stand for anything except acquiring power at all cost."
Sadly this election is more about getting a detremental man out of office than anything else. As far as that power bit, bush2 is clearly the one drunk on power.
Of course not, he'll let the next administration inherit the ridiculous debt he's incurred in Iraq, Reagan taught us that trick.
"2. I know Bush is not going to go wobbly defending our great nation. I have no doubt Kerry will."
Yes bush2's conviction to go ahead and attack nations, just cause or not, is inspiring.
"3. I know Bush is not going to flip-flop on every issue. I know Kerry does it daily depending on who he's speaking to."
That's right, bush2 sticks to his plans no matter how right or wrong, no matter what the public that supposedly elected him wants.
"4. Bush does'nt engage in class warfare which I hate. Kerry does."
Again right, the bushes prefer to keep theirs among the rich elite and maintain their blueblood ties to the English royality. And then also, of course, in classic repub-economic form simply forget the poor class while implementing policies beneficial only to the wealthy.
"5. I believe Bush is sincerely doing what he believes is right for America. I believe Kerry will do what's best for himself and his party."
Well doing what you believe is right and believing your on a mission from God aren't exactly the same thing.
"6. I believe Bush is real and honorable. I believe Kerry is a complete phoney and doesn't mean or believe half the shit he says."
Real? Or real dumb? That's what the "real" feeling in candidates that the repub party strives for really means. Honorable???? Ha! He refuses to talk about his drug past, went AWOL from the National Guard, fixed an election and is willing to attack nations without provacation.
"7. Bush is in the line of fire making the tough calls. Kerry is MIA in the Senate and has missed 70% of the votes this year to avoid making the tough calls."
The only thing he's had tough is justifying his unjustifiable acts to the American public and the world.
"8. Bush will not defer to the UN. Kerry will."
Yes God forbid we actually try to participate as a part the global community in which we live and do business.
"9. Bush believes in individual responsibility. Kerry believes the government is the way people can make it, gov. handouts."
No bush2 believes in traditional repub economics, appease the rich and phuck the poor.
"10. Kerry believes you're rich if you're a couple making 90K, Bush doesn't."
I don't know that 90k makes a couple rich and don't know if Kerry believes that or not either, but obviously that couple should pay more tax than a couple living on 35k.
"I could come up with 100 reasons.
Can you say why to vote for Kerry other than you want Bush out? What ever reason you could come up with could change the next day because Kerry doesn't stand for anything except acquiring power at all cost."
Sadly this election is more about getting a detremental man out of office than anything else. As far as that power bit, bush2 is clearly the one drunk on power.
Kaya,
Leaving Bush out of it, why would you vote for John "Flipper" Kerry? You should be able to come up with something, the guys on ever side of every issue. Did you know flipper voted for the war before he voted against the war? So did Edwards.
[This message was edited by GAMEFACE on July 17, 2004 at 05:33 PM.]
Leaving Bush out of it, why would you vote for John "Flipper" Kerry? You should be able to come up with something, the guys on ever side of every issue. Did you know flipper voted for the war before he voted against the war? So did Edwards.
[This message was edited by GAMEFACE on July 17, 2004 at 05:33 PM.]
a few statments regarding Saddam and WMD's
President Clinton (1998): "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (February 1998): "Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
In 2002, Al Gore said, "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Also in 2002, Sen. Ted Kennedy said, "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
In January 2003, Kerry added, "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
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President Clinton (1998): "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (February 1998): "Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
In 2002, Al Gore said, "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Also in 2002, Sen. Ted Kennedy said, "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
In January 2003, Kerry added, "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
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I don't need reasons, I just want Bush out. What is wrong with thinking Bush and his team aren't good for the well-being of this country. Yeah he talks about terrorism a lot, but I don't fall for that somehow makes us safer. I STILL worry a lot more about getting killed by a drunk driver than a terrorist, with damn good reason for it! It would resonate a lot more with many of us if he became the President who vowed to wipe out drunk drivers than the President who vows to wipe out Saddam and the Baath Party. Oh wait, George was a drunk driver, so I guess that explains the "compassionate conservative" for me. He feels their pain. Sorry George, not quite enough to get my vote. Go back to the ranch and "rough it" on the few millions you have left.
But since you like to bother us all with proof that you are brainwashed, here you go:
1. Kerry won't raise my taxes because Congress will never send him a bill to do so; but Kerry won't vote for another reckless tax cut either.
2. Say what you want about the UN and alliances, but if we are making "the world safe for democracy" then we ought to have the world making the sacrifices too. W's team doesn't quite get that part.
3. Bush doesn't engage in class warfare, you are right. He just talks to the rich and lets others worry about the rest. Kerry won't say to lower income people "now here is your tax cut, I put a few pennies in your pocket, now dammit vote for me!"
4. Bush is real and honorable, but only when he looks in the mirror. No you can't please everyone all the time, but the pure hatred the rest of the world has for Bush is unreal. He MUST be doing something wrong, no matter what you think of other's opinions.
5. Bush believes in individual responsibility on paper. Meanwhile he and his party are out passing laws and "incentives to business" left and right. Laws to promote religion and religious points of view sure don't strike me as being for individual responsiblity. Thomas Jefferson must spin in his grave everytime these Republicans come up with ideas to pander to their support groups.
Ok enough, you can have 100 reasons why. Big difference between me and you and a lot of Republicans is that I don't expect, nor care what candidate you vote for. Your vote is your choice, have any reason you want for your vote. Republicans and their pundits like to make the inference if you don't vote for them something is wrong for you and you are a weak person. Whatever, I treasure the fact that we get a vote and I will use it as I see fit. Why can't you just accept that?
But since you like to bother us all with proof that you are brainwashed, here you go:
1. Kerry won't raise my taxes because Congress will never send him a bill to do so; but Kerry won't vote for another reckless tax cut either.
2. Say what you want about the UN and alliances, but if we are making "the world safe for democracy" then we ought to have the world making the sacrifices too. W's team doesn't quite get that part.
3. Bush doesn't engage in class warfare, you are right. He just talks to the rich and lets others worry about the rest. Kerry won't say to lower income people "now here is your tax cut, I put a few pennies in your pocket, now dammit vote for me!"
4. Bush is real and honorable, but only when he looks in the mirror. No you can't please everyone all the time, but the pure hatred the rest of the world has for Bush is unreal. He MUST be doing something wrong, no matter what you think of other's opinions.
5. Bush believes in individual responsibility on paper. Meanwhile he and his party are out passing laws and "incentives to business" left and right. Laws to promote religion and religious points of view sure don't strike me as being for individual responsiblity. Thomas Jefferson must spin in his grave everytime these Republicans come up with ideas to pander to their support groups.
Ok enough, you can have 100 reasons why. Big difference between me and you and a lot of Republicans is that I don't expect, nor care what candidate you vote for. Your vote is your choice, have any reason you want for your vote. Republicans and their pundits like to make the inference if you don't vote for them something is wrong for you and you are a weak person. Whatever, I treasure the fact that we get a vote and I will use it as I see fit. Why can't you just accept that?
WildBill, you state "what is wrong with thinking Bush and his team aren't good for the well being of the country" and then a few sentences later you also state "But since you like to bother us with proof that you are brainwashed..."
Wildbill, your contradictory statements are giving me the impression that you're an ideologue, that you consider people who don't agree with you to be stupid or evil or both.
Shouldn't you look in the mirror and see if you're marching in lockstep to the party line? That maybe you're being representative of the other extreme?
I consider myself a moderate conservative, and I like George - his "cowboy" style is a breath of fresh air from the last two presidents; when I think of George II, I remember an old colonial flag with a snake as the centerpiece and the theme "don't tread on me".
That our adversaries themselves are snakes makes this all the more enjoyable.
That the Neville Chamberlains, the appeasers of the world, will reach to any lengths to avoid a conflict that is aimed directly at their culture is beyond me; they can't put it off, they can only delay it.
You declare that Kerry won't raise your taxes - which isn't necessarily true - I think that Kerry will raise taxes and expand government the first chance he has. He is, after all, a Massachusetts Democrat; he was weaned at the knee of Michael Dukakis and his congressional record is one of the most liberal in the Sanate - his voting record is more liberal the Teddy Kennedy's.
As for the UN - We do have UN alliances - just not with France, Germany, Russia, and their hangers on. We do have alliances with Great Britain, Italy, Poland, Japan, and a number of other countries. You're being selective in your statement - and to be honest, I'd rather have France as an enemy rather than an ally - they're backstabbers!
WildBill, you mention class warfare; what class warfare? The US is the only country in the world where the greatest problem poor people suffer from is obesity - they're too fat! In the US, an ambitious man who's willing to do whatever it takes, can go as far as he wants - without limitation. The difference between a successful person and a poor person is measured in terms of ambition and performance. We have the greatest economy, the largest middle class, and the most class mobile society in the world!
The rest of the world doesn't hate Bush - many admire him, and our enemies fear him - The French and the political left have a "pure hatred" for Bush - which is a big difference.
Your 5th point is just a diatribe, Bush had an agenda coming into office - some of it faith based and some based on personal responsibility - and he never hid his agenda - it was part of his platform. You can disagree with his platform, but he's not a liar!
WildBill, you're obviously a partisan Democrat - and that is OK - we all have a "right" to practise and voice our political beliefs as long as they don't advocate the overthrow of the government.
Come the first Wednesday in November, we will both know how the American people have decided. Each of us believes that his "side" is right and just; Either way, I know that America will always win in the end.
Wildbill, your contradictory statements are giving me the impression that you're an ideologue, that you consider people who don't agree with you to be stupid or evil or both.
Shouldn't you look in the mirror and see if you're marching in lockstep to the party line? That maybe you're being representative of the other extreme?
I consider myself a moderate conservative, and I like George - his "cowboy" style is a breath of fresh air from the last two presidents; when I think of George II, I remember an old colonial flag with a snake as the centerpiece and the theme "don't tread on me".
That our adversaries themselves are snakes makes this all the more enjoyable.
That the Neville Chamberlains, the appeasers of the world, will reach to any lengths to avoid a conflict that is aimed directly at their culture is beyond me; they can't put it off, they can only delay it.
You declare that Kerry won't raise your taxes - which isn't necessarily true - I think that Kerry will raise taxes and expand government the first chance he has. He is, after all, a Massachusetts Democrat; he was weaned at the knee of Michael Dukakis and his congressional record is one of the most liberal in the Sanate - his voting record is more liberal the Teddy Kennedy's.
As for the UN - We do have UN alliances - just not with France, Germany, Russia, and their hangers on. We do have alliances with Great Britain, Italy, Poland, Japan, and a number of other countries. You're being selective in your statement - and to be honest, I'd rather have France as an enemy rather than an ally - they're backstabbers!
WildBill, you mention class warfare; what class warfare? The US is the only country in the world where the greatest problem poor people suffer from is obesity - they're too fat! In the US, an ambitious man who's willing to do whatever it takes, can go as far as he wants - without limitation. The difference between a successful person and a poor person is measured in terms of ambition and performance. We have the greatest economy, the largest middle class, and the most class mobile society in the world!
The rest of the world doesn't hate Bush - many admire him, and our enemies fear him - The French and the political left have a "pure hatred" for Bush - which is a big difference.
Your 5th point is just a diatribe, Bush had an agenda coming into office - some of it faith based and some based on personal responsibility - and he never hid his agenda - it was part of his platform. You can disagree with his platform, but he's not a liar!
WildBill, you're obviously a partisan Democrat - and that is OK - we all have a "right" to practise and voice our political beliefs as long as they don't advocate the overthrow of the government.
Come the first Wednesday in November, we will both know how the American people have decided. Each of us believes that his "side" is right and just; Either way, I know that America will always win in the end.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I like George - his "cowboy" style is a breath of fresh air from the last two presidents; when I think of George II, I remember an old colonial flag with a snake as the centerpiece and the theme "don't tread on me".
That our adversaries themselves are snakes makes this all the more enjoyable.
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You consider two wars enjoyable? Amazing that you stayed behind to post about it, isn't it?
You cowardly demented fuk.
That our adversaries themselves are snakes makes this all the more enjoyable.
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You consider two wars enjoyable? Amazing that you stayed behind to post about it, isn't it?
You cowardly demented fuk.
These results shouldn't surprise anyone since most of the people in this forum are anti-american, or Liberals who just want to brainwash people into thinking that Bush is a Nazi.
Ask a Liberal for proof about anything and watch them change the subject or just start attacking Bush. Where Conservatives provide fact after fact and those little things are conveniently ignored by the media!
I feel sorry for the American people. They are the ones who are not getting a fair shake. CNN, NBC, CBS....They only show one side of the story. Me Dad is in Iraq right now and he e-mails me stories that you never hear on TV, except for FOX.
It's sad that the media is taking advantage of people like this.
Ask a Liberal for proof about anything and watch them change the subject or just start attacking Bush. Where Conservatives provide fact after fact and those little things are conveniently ignored by the media!
I feel sorry for the American people. They are the ones who are not getting a fair shake. CNN, NBC, CBS....They only show one side of the story. Me Dad is in Iraq right now and he e-mails me stories that you never hear on TV, except for FOX.
It's sad that the media is taking advantage of people like this.
