ONE MORE THING.
please read all the posts, try to understand them, if you don't please ask and we will try and fill you in BEFORE you post. That way there is no cunfusion.
My opinion was stated in my last post. I don't think that either one of the idiots that we will choose from is able to run our Gov.
Kerry is much like PAcheco in the sense that he can't make up his own mind and furthermore changes it depending on the situation. No backbone basically.
And George is just George I don't really have to spell out all of the bad things he has done. I just can't think of any good things he has done.
Enough of the bad mouthing. If anyone can think of good things that Jr. has done these past 4 years please post them.
please read all the posts, try to understand them, if you don't please ask and we will try and fill you in BEFORE you post. That way there is no cunfusion.
My opinion was stated in my last post. I don't think that either one of the idiots that we will choose from is able to run our Gov.
Kerry is much like PAcheco in the sense that he can't make up his own mind and furthermore changes it depending on the situation. No backbone basically.
And George is just George I don't really have to spell out all of the bad things he has done. I just can't think of any good things he has done.
Enough of the bad mouthing. If anyone can think of good things that Jr. has done these past 4 years please post them.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If anyone can think of good things that Jr. has done these past 4 years please post them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Darwin,
The suicide attempts with the pretzel and the Segway were well intended.
America would have benefitted greatly if the over-privledged one would have succeeded on his own for a change.
Darwin,
The suicide attempts with the pretzel and the Segway were well intended.
America would have benefitted greatly if the over-privledged one would have succeeded on his own for a change.
Things that Junior has done as president:
1. A Ban on partial Birth abortions.
2. A nice tax cut for WORKING people.
3. A strong response to terrorism and those who would support terrorism. He declared war on the terrorists and then followed through going after their economic and supply infrastructure.
4. A return of Honor to the oval office.
5. Went after Corporate pirates such as Enron CEO Ron Lay who is presently under arrest. He set up stricter guidelines for the SEC to curtail quwestionable accounting practices.
6. A focus on faith and faith based tenets.
7. A focus on personal responsibility.
8. A refusal to buckle under to the media and to the left (like daddy did).
9. A pharmacy bill that ISN'T a governemnt run healthcare program. - so it should work as long as the government bureaucracy is kept out.
Et cetera, et cetera
1. A Ban on partial Birth abortions.
2. A nice tax cut for WORKING people.
3. A strong response to terrorism and those who would support terrorism. He declared war on the terrorists and then followed through going after their economic and supply infrastructure.
4. A return of Honor to the oval office.
5. Went after Corporate pirates such as Enron CEO Ron Lay who is presently under arrest. He set up stricter guidelines for the SEC to curtail quwestionable accounting practices.
6. A focus on faith and faith based tenets.
7. A focus on personal responsibility.
8. A refusal to buckle under to the media and to the left (like daddy did).
9. A pharmacy bill that ISN'T a governemnt run healthcare program. - so it should work as long as the government bureaucracy is kept out.
Et cetera, et cetera
"Kaya,
Leaving Bush out of it, why would you vote for John "Flipper" Kerry? You should be able to come up with something, the guys on ever side of every issue. Did you know flipper voted for the war before he voted against the war? So did Edwards."
As I already said, although it's sad, this election isn't about voting anyone in, it's about voting a very bad administration out before more damage is done.
"These results shouldn't surprise anyone since most of the people in this forum are anti-american, or Liberals who just want to brainwash people into thinking that Bush is a Nazi.
Ask a Liberal for proof about anything and watch them change the subject or just start attacking Bush. Where Conservatives provide fact after fact and those little things are conveniently ignored by the media!
I feel sorry for the American people. They are the ones who are not getting a fair shake. CNN, NBC, CBS....They only show one side of the story. Me Dad is in Iraq right now and he e-mails me stories that you never hear on TV, except for FOX.
It's sad that the media is taking advantage of people like this."
Kman, what are you talking about? bush2 is the one that's had trouble coming up with proof and the G.I. accounts I've read have been about the abuses of human rights by our armed forces in Iraq.
Leaving Bush out of it, why would you vote for John "Flipper" Kerry? You should be able to come up with something, the guys on ever side of every issue. Did you know flipper voted for the war before he voted against the war? So did Edwards."
As I already said, although it's sad, this election isn't about voting anyone in, it's about voting a very bad administration out before more damage is done.
"These results shouldn't surprise anyone since most of the people in this forum are anti-american, or Liberals who just want to brainwash people into thinking that Bush is a Nazi.
Ask a Liberal for proof about anything and watch them change the subject or just start attacking Bush. Where Conservatives provide fact after fact and those little things are conveniently ignored by the media!
I feel sorry for the American people. They are the ones who are not getting a fair shake. CNN, NBC, CBS....They only show one side of the story. Me Dad is in Iraq right now and he e-mails me stories that you never hear on TV, except for FOX.
It's sad that the media is taking advantage of people like this."
Kman, what are you talking about? bush2 is the one that's had trouble coming up with proof and the G.I. accounts I've read have been about the abuses of human rights by our armed forces in Iraq.
Just to clarify some things for you BBL since you want to have so much insight into our reasons for our vote:
1. I am registered Republican pissed off at Bush, a guy I did vote for last time around. People tend to get pissed off when you make the inferences that you will reach out to everyone and then make it a habit to not do so.
2. I hate politicians telling me and doctors what they should be doing. Republicans always telling us that goverment should be small and people know better what to do than their government, yet I don't see any of that philosophy in their policy making. Their reasoning for their laws always seems to be "the church/bible tells us to..." which leads to...
3. I hate the fact that we supposedly have freedom of religion somewhere in that document Ass-croft wants to piss on, yet one religion's tenets are always being mentioned these days, while others have their places of worship watched carefully.
1. I am registered Republican pissed off at Bush, a guy I did vote for last time around. People tend to get pissed off when you make the inferences that you will reach out to everyone and then make it a habit to not do so.
2. I hate politicians telling me and doctors what they should be doing. Republicans always telling us that goverment should be small and people know better what to do than their government, yet I don't see any of that philosophy in their policy making. Their reasoning for their laws always seems to be "the church/bible tells us to..." which leads to...
3. I hate the fact that we supposedly have freedom of religion somewhere in that document Ass-croft wants to piss on, yet one religion's tenets are always being mentioned these days, while others have their places of worship watched carefully.
I was wondering myself how this pres has "returned honor to the oval office" when he blatently disrespects the seperation of church and state and freedom of religion.
As a matter of fact isn't there something about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I would have to say that consenting adults being able to marry whomever they choose would fall under the pursuit of happiness.
As a matter of fact isn't there something about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I would have to say that consenting adults being able to marry whomever they choose would fall under the pursuit of happiness.
So lets get this straight no one can come up with a reason they'd like to see Kerry elected President of the US, except you want Bush out.
To bad liberals you can scream as much as you want about how much you hate Bush and want him out. It won't matter until you can come up with atleast one reason that makes sense to elect Kerry.
Whether you like it or not Americans hate liberals and they hate trial lawyers even more.
To bad liberals you can scream as much as you want about how much you hate Bush and want him out. It won't matter until you can come up with atleast one reason that makes sense to elect Kerry.
Whether you like it or not Americans hate liberals and they hate trial lawyers even more.
"Whether you like it or not Americans hate liberals and they hate trial lawyers even more."
They do? The 60's and 70's were very liberal times. As a matter of fact the whites that fought for the end of segregation were liberals, so I don't see it likely that many black Americans hate liberals. Liberals also hit the streets to protest against Nam, a war we should have never gotten into (ding, Iraq, wow! dejavu). Also I think it would be pretty tough for most of us generation Xers raised by old hippie liberals to hate our own parents. Reagan was able to make liberal a bad word again after Carter's terrible failings as a president. However during Clinton's administration people started thinking about those awful liberal issues such as, education, health care, equal rights, etc once again.
Now if you tell me rednecks, kkk members, white supremecists and gay bashers hate liberals, I'll take your word for it because I grew up around a lot of that brand of idiot.
As a matter of fact if you tell me that big business and the wealthy that don't want to give their fair share back to society hate liberals, yeah I'd believe that too.
Now that said, let's try this one more time because you really seem to be having trouble getting this, reason number one for supporting Kerry is that he's the most likely candidate to be able to beat bush2.
It's a shame it's come to this but it's a matter of a guy that might be ok to not so good against a terrible harmful president. The bottom line is that the bush2 must go, for the good of the country, in the name of freedom, in the name of the American way, he must go.
They do? The 60's and 70's were very liberal times. As a matter of fact the whites that fought for the end of segregation were liberals, so I don't see it likely that many black Americans hate liberals. Liberals also hit the streets to protest against Nam, a war we should have never gotten into (ding, Iraq, wow! dejavu). Also I think it would be pretty tough for most of us generation Xers raised by old hippie liberals to hate our own parents. Reagan was able to make liberal a bad word again after Carter's terrible failings as a president. However during Clinton's administration people started thinking about those awful liberal issues such as, education, health care, equal rights, etc once again.
Now if you tell me rednecks, kkk members, white supremecists and gay bashers hate liberals, I'll take your word for it because I grew up around a lot of that brand of idiot.
As a matter of fact if you tell me that big business and the wealthy that don't want to give their fair share back to society hate liberals, yeah I'd believe that too.
Now that said, let's try this one more time because you really seem to be having trouble getting this, reason number one for supporting Kerry is that he's the most likely candidate to be able to beat bush2.
It's a shame it's come to this but it's a matter of a guy that might be ok to not so good against a terrible harmful president. The bottom line is that the bush2 must go, for the good of the country, in the name of freedom, in the name of the American way, he must go.
This dope Bush was playing golf and fishing 43% of the time leading up to 9/11. Ashcroft told his staff he did not want to see anymore terrorist briefings that were warning of an attack within the USA. The worst terrorist attack to hit the USA happened on this turkey's watch. So he attacks a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Vote this clueless moron out of office if you ever did anything in your life.
Things that Junior has done as president:
1. A Ban on partial Birth abortions.
Agreed
2. A nice tax cut for WORKING people.
No, an advance on our SS that will dry up thanks to his 90-some% tax break for the ultra rich
3. A strong response to terrorism and those who would support terrorism. He declared war on the terrorists and then followed through going after their economic and supply infrastructure.
Bin who? Oh, I forgot .. silly details such as actually capturing the terrorist aren't imporant for the "war time president" during his "war on terror" even though he dodged war when given the chance to fight one himself. It's better to let other kids die for your greed.
4. A return of Honor to the oval office.
By using fabricated evidence? By abondoning every notion of being the "compassionate conservative" that his election stealing platform ran on?
5. Went after Corporate pirates such as Enron CEO Ron Lay who is presently under arrest. He set up stricter guidelines for the SEC to curtail quwestionable accounting practices.
Was funded by criminal's like Ron Lay, and will continue to do so.
6. A focus on faith and faith based tenets.
In other words, he's too fuking stupid to use any notion of logic - thus he relies on "faith."
I'm sure God has one-on-ones with all the genocidials killers.
7. A focus on personal responsibility.
43% vaction time while Al Queda was plotting death and destruction?
Well, he had to set a record somehow - otherwise the execution record would have seemed like a political fluke.
8. A refusal to buckle under to the media and to the left (like daddy did).
In other words, he's too fuking stupid to even consider the fact that (despite evidence) that he really didn't talk to God and might be wrong.
Furthermore, this "attribute" is nothing more that a refusal to represent the people as they desire - but, hey, that's how monarchies work.
9. A pharmacy bill that ISN'T a governemnt run healthcare program. - so it should work as long as the government bureaucracy is kept out.
Fill the pockets of the rich, cut health care from the poor. It's obvious that he earned it by "being born a Bush" and no losing all the family's money (yet).
Et cetera, et cetera
Embarrassing, I know.
Ok, we're 1-8 Billy - at least it tops your capping percentage.
[This message was edited by lander on July 19, 2004 at 08:48 AM.]
1. A Ban on partial Birth abortions.
Agreed
2. A nice tax cut for WORKING people.
No, an advance on our SS that will dry up thanks to his 90-some% tax break for the ultra rich
3. A strong response to terrorism and those who would support terrorism. He declared war on the terrorists and then followed through going after their economic and supply infrastructure.
Bin who? Oh, I forgot .. silly details such as actually capturing the terrorist aren't imporant for the "war time president" during his "war on terror" even though he dodged war when given the chance to fight one himself. It's better to let other kids die for your greed.
4. A return of Honor to the oval office.
By using fabricated evidence? By abondoning every notion of being the "compassionate conservative" that his election stealing platform ran on?
5. Went after Corporate pirates such as Enron CEO Ron Lay who is presently under arrest. He set up stricter guidelines for the SEC to curtail quwestionable accounting practices.
Was funded by criminal's like Ron Lay, and will continue to do so.
6. A focus on faith and faith based tenets.
In other words, he's too fuking stupid to use any notion of logic - thus he relies on "faith."
I'm sure God has one-on-ones with all the genocidials killers.
7. A focus on personal responsibility.
43% vaction time while Al Queda was plotting death and destruction?
Well, he had to set a record somehow - otherwise the execution record would have seemed like a political fluke.
8. A refusal to buckle under to the media and to the left (like daddy did).
In other words, he's too fuking stupid to even consider the fact that (despite evidence) that he really didn't talk to God and might be wrong.
Furthermore, this "attribute" is nothing more that a refusal to represent the people as they desire - but, hey, that's how monarchies work.
9. A pharmacy bill that ISN'T a governemnt run healthcare program. - so it should work as long as the government bureaucracy is kept out.
Fill the pockets of the rich, cut health care from the poor. It's obvious that he earned it by "being born a Bush" and no losing all the family's money (yet).
Et cetera, et cetera
Embarrassing, I know.
Ok, we're 1-8 Billy - at least it tops your capping percentage.
[This message was edited by lander on July 19, 2004 at 08:48 AM.]
Current odds at Pinnacle:
Republican -106
Democrat -104
Down to basically a pk em line. That's some serious steam from +200 down to -104. You guys who are so convinced that Bush will win need to put your money where your mouth is. Please, please do so I can get some better damn odds on Kerry already.
Republican -106
Democrat -104
Down to basically a pk em line. That's some serious steam from +200 down to -104. You guys who are so convinced that Bush will win need to put your money where your mouth is. Please, please do so I can get some better damn odds on Kerry already.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by D2bets:
Current odds at Pinnacle:
Republican -106
Democrat -104
Down to basically a pk em line. That's some serious steam from +200 down to -104. You guys who are so convinced that Bush will win need to put your money where your mouth is. Please, please do so I can get some better damn odds on Kerry already.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Current odds at Pinnacle:
Republican -106
Democrat -104
Down to basically a pk em line. That's some serious steam from +200 down to -104. You guys who are so convinced that Bush will win need to put your money where your mouth is. Please, please do so I can get some better damn odds on Kerry already.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
