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Dogball looks on with his two clients and ponders whether or not to be tracked.......


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Of course as long as he tells us he was 10-0 the next day that is good enough for me.......
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I came here to help the posters win for free but after my *50 unit plays started winning they BEGGED me to sell my plays to them..... - <Matlock>/2002
 

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Jake-- If you go up to the offshore
forum,and click on the thread titled,
"Does anyone here make their living gambling",
The person posting under the Nick, "Wild Bill",
has some very insightful thoughts you
may want to consider.
Regarding the baseball this year,with dime
lines and persistent shopping it wouldn't
be too hard for someone with little knowledge
of betting the sport(such as myself)to
play essentially a "breakeven" game. you
would have to be tremendously unlucky to
finish the season with plenty of red ink on your hands.
Ciao

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Click below...Be Patient.
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The song Hot Shot City is particularly good
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by slugster:
not surprised you won't put your money where your mouth is. a big pro sports handicapper with no money...what a laugher
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all tapped out are ya? how are you going to bet the games kid?

big pro...
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i am willing to bet a smaller amount kid, put up or shut up...lets bet pro capper
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maybe mommy or daddy will lend the pro capper some cash
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slugster<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You wanna go 20, I'll go 20. Simply put, I don't have that type of money to throw around. I just paid over $300 for spring books, and as far as spending money goes I'm tapped. My average bet is $20 so I'd take some out of my Pinnacle account or something, but if you are looking for a big spender you are looking in the wrong place.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hamneggs:
_Snake_

We'll see who the dumbass is at the end of the MLB season.

When is opening day so that I can mark it in my calendar?

http://olsentwins.syndk8.net/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

March 25th, Tokyo game between Oakland and Seattle
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Grand Slam:
Jake,the final grades have been release...very disappointing. Had you put more effort into the test, you may have had better results. I believe you were a bit too concerned with the spitballs being tossed at you by Slugster, Hamneggs, Fat Frank and others to fully concentrate on the task at hand. Sure they are just silly boys now; give them a few years and they might just turn into Republicans. Stay away.

Question #1: Good answer. Ob% and slugging % are the crown jewels in handicapping offensive team strength (other than runs). Everything else generally is statistical noise.

Question #2: Incomplete with a F in Effort. I was hoping to see a demostration in how you created your own line. It was a hypothetical question relying on your good faith effort to solve the problem. There was no attempt to do this.

Question #3: Incorrect. When the over/under line is 7, the total lands on that number about 15% of the time. Getting an extra half run to 7.5 is worth around 35 cents, up to -1.40. The better value therefore is under 7.5 -1.30.

Question #4: Incorrect. When the over/under line is 8, the total lands on that number about 7% of the time. Getting an extra half run to 8.5 is worth around 15 cents, up to -.120. The better value is under 8 -1.05.

7,9 and 11 are key numbers regarding totals. When possible, try to get totals off these numbers if the cost is minimal.

Question #5: Correct. While there was no wrong answer to the question, it was a solid answer.

Jake, you had a good record in baseball last year. But you really need to learn how to set a line and determine value in a ball games. Picking winners in baseball isn't enough. Print out what Patrick and Maria wrote earlier in this thread and read it every time you sit down to eat, sit down to shit, and sit down to get a hummer. It is great advice that will save you a lot of money in the long run.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the info. I have never heard of the 7, 9, 11 thing, but I'm always willing to learn.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Jake - TRK has you listed as -12.55 units in NCAA football and +5.98 in the bowls. Whatever the difference is would be your RX official record. NFL you ended up -10.4 units. I don't have the NFL play-offs for you handy, I just have these because they are listed with mine.

Where do those numbers from your site come from in football? Are they what you mail out or something different? Anyway good luck.


_I came here to help the posters win for free but after my *50 unit plays started winning they BEGGED me to sell my plays to them....._ - Dogball/2002<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, those are about 2 week totals. I was really hot for a few weeks, decided I should post on theRX without realizing that I was probably not going to hit 65% all year and was due for a poor stretch. If you are seriously in doubt, I saved all my emails I sent out. I stand by the posted record on the site 100% though.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hamneggs:
_Snake-_

Are you going to play preseason at all?

I haven't heard from TRK about tracking your plays.

http://olsentwins.syndk8.net/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I may make a few plays when I have time, but no regularity to the plays.
 
>I don't have that type of money to throw around.

Jake, you need a "stake-horse"

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"This is the business we've chosen." - Hyman Roth
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FatFrank:
>I don't have that type of money to throw around.

Jake, you need a "stake-horse"

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"This is the business we've chosen." - Hyman Roth<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not familiar with the term. Care to elaborate?
 
Some guy with cash to back your picks...

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"This is the business we've chosen." - Hyman Roth
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FatFrank:
Some guy with cash to back your picks...

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"This is the business we've chosen." - Hyman Roth<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be nice. Finding someone is slightly harder. jake@mbpicks is my email for anyone interested in doing that.
 
Snake

Funny sh*t about your 2 week streak on your site. LOL, but I'll get to that later.

So what's going on with preseason? Where do I see your plays for preseason?

We'll have to get TRK on the horn.

Snake Picks
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Jake - TRK has you listed as -12.55 units in NCAA football and +5.98 in the bowls. Whatever the difference is would be your RX official record. NFL you ended up -10.4 units. I don't have the NFL play-offs for you handy, I just have these because they are listed with mine.

Where do those numbers from your site come from in football? Are they what you mail out or something different? Anyway good luck.


_I came here to help the posters win for free but after my *50 unit plays started winning they BEGGED me to sell my plays to them....._ - Dogball/2002<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, those are about 2 week totals. I was really hot for a few weeks, decided I should post on theRX without realizing that I was probably not going to hit 65% all year and was due for a poor stretch. If you are seriously in doubt, I saved all my emails I sent out. I stand by the posted record on the site 100% though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Snake

So the numbers presently on your site (NCAA +8.15., NFL +.29, NCAA Hoops +4.7, NHL +4.39) are all based on a 2 week stretch?

Snake Picks
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hamneggs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake Thompson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Jake - TRK has you listed as -12.55 units in NCAA football and +5.98 in the bowls. Whatever the difference is would be your RX official record. NFL you ended up -10.4 units. I don't have the NFL play-offs for you handy, I just have these because they are listed with mine.

Where do those numbers from your site come from in football? Are they what you mail out or something different? Anyway good luck.


_I came here to help the posters win for free but after my *50 unit plays started winning they BEGGED me to sell my plays to them....._ - Dogball/2002<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, those are about 2 week totals. I was really hot for a few weeks, decided I should post on theRX without realizing that I was probably not going to hit 65% all year and was due for a poor stretch. If you are seriously in doubt, I saved all my emails I sent out. I stand by the posted record on the site 100% though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

_Snake_

So the numbers presently on your site (NCAA +8.15., NFL +.29, NCAA Hoops +4.7, NHL +4.39) are all based on a 2 week stretch?

http://olsentwins.syndk8.net/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No those are complete season totals. TRK's totals are for the week or two I posted on this site during those seasons.
 
Ok, thanks for clearing that up, Jake.

I put a note out to TRK, but perhaps you could shoot him an email and see what the dealio is on preseason.

Snake Picks
 
Read the thread through, took an hour to do so.

Doesn't cover the issues I want to, so I am going to start a new thread in offshore on "touts, whores, stockbrokers and lawyers".

But some good posts here, thanks for the read guys.
 

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Damn..Jake called me dumb in the Politics thread. I'll bump this up every time the boy forgets his place.
 

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