The End Result....The Kaeperknick case vs the nfl

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If this is at all true, then Kap's lawyer is a fucking moron.

Think about it. It's probably not true. Or he woudn't have settled.

A guy that has the league by the balls and is a slam dunk to win a case does not settle. Common sense can figure that one out.

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Mob,

I am NOT a CK hater, at all, BUT do you feel like he sold out on his cause? The league basically admitted guilt and are flat out paying him hush money to just go away. Yes hes getting a boat load of money, but like said above, it not a lot to the league. And now, Im assuming, he will just "go away".


A settlement to me isn’t selling out. Another article I was reading was stating that the settlement was more in favor of the NFL. Meaning they didn’t want to have stuff revealed to the public....which was going to be the next step.

People for some reason think CK sold out. I ask those ppl...where is the finish line then? The finish line was ALWAYS a lump sum of money. Because that’s how you make a lot of change is financially. Money talks. The NFL did not want that information out there. Emails conversations, videos, etc. did they want it to just go away or did they want to cover their ass?


There is NOTHING the nfl likes to do more than cover their own ass.
 
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To assume that this wasn’t going on is just being oblivious. How do you think these owners think? Or what they discuss? You think some nfl owners don’t have the same mindset as Donald sterling? Of course they do.
 
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I like this guy


Thanks for showing your true colors on the topic at hand then. Your opinion means jack shit to me after that. I was treating you seriously until.
 
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BFL, have you heard of him doing anything to increase social awareness of systematic racism and oppression besides kneeling during the anthem? Anything substantive that is.

As he done anything at all to fix these injustices in the last two years?

Not sure why you're advising us to reserve judgement on him. I know you're trying to be pragmatic, but him fighting systematic racism is as likely as OJ is going to look for Nicole's killer.

How can he fight something that doesn't exist?

So you have the same beliefs as Enflameo apparently. Geesh. Automatic L
 

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Thanks for showing your true colors on the topic at hand then. Your opinion means jack shit to me after that. I was treating you seriously until.

ohhh boo fucking hoo, I guess you're taking this conversation a whole lot more seriously than me
 
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ohhh boo fucking hoo, I guess you're taking this conversation a whole lot more seriously than me


LOL. How? Look at what you co-signed.




Its simple... if you don’t believe he has a case...then you believe CK and Eric Reid we’re not good enough to play in the NFL and that there was no conspiracy. THAT is what you are arguing lol.


You do realize there is evidence that proves that false, right? Lol. Legit factual evidence. Lmfao



meanwhile the argument you REALLY are making is that....you don’t like Collin Kaepernick. Lmfao. That’s all the argument you are making. You and everyone making that case sound uneducated as fuck.
 

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I don't really care about CK, I certainly don't consider him a hero or some sort of social warrior. I don't believe there's systematic racism or social injustice in this country, save for maybe poor criminals not being able to hire good attorneys, and I'm absolutely 10,000% certain there's NO OPPRESSION

Did he win his lawsuit? IDK, hence you don't know either
 
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My whole point is this.... a LOT of people said it was fact that he wasn’t good enough to play. And that the league was NOT conspiring because it was all due to his skill level.

you can’t make that claim for CK and NOT make that claim for Eric Reid who was also blackballed by the league and subject to drug tests so they could try to have a legit reason to keep him out the league. Wake the fuck up morons. Put your hate away.
 
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Put your hate away
 

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Maybe like 1% of people with an opinion on Kaepernick thought he was out of the NFL purely based on football ability. Almost no one thought this or pretended it was the case.

Most people thought he was a backup QB caliber/marginal talent that wasn't worth the PR trouble for the owners. A lightning rod that wasn't worth the trouble similar to Ray Rice, Greg Hardy etc....This was a pretty universal opinion.

Whether they colluded to make sure he would not be on any team was what was up for discussion. Considering it was settled out of court, I guess we'll never know the extent of the collusion or how sloppy it was.
 
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Maybe like 1% of people with an opinion on Kaepernick thought he was out of the NFL purely based on football ability. Almost no one thought this or pretended it was the case.

Most people thought he was a backup QB caliber/marginal talent that wasn't worth the PR trouble for the owners. A lightning rod that wasn't worth the trouble similar to Ray Rice, Greg Hardy etc....This was a pretty universal opinion.

Whether they colluded to make sure he would not be on any team was what was up for discussion. Considering it was settled out of court, I guess we'll never know the extent of the collusion or how sloppy it was.



That 1% must all be here at this forum. YOU were one of them. Enflameo was one of them. Many people said he wasn’t good enough to play.

Lmfao the guy who kneeled with him was also blackballed until one team stepped up and did the right thing and he played like a pro bowl safety lmfao. Nfl should have fined the panthers for making them look bad lol


eric reids situation proved fact what they were doing to CK. 100000000% fact. The proof is right in front of your eyes. Some people are so ignorant they don’t want the truth.
 

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Huh? I never said he wasn't good enough to be in the NFL. I know that for a fact. I'd say go find a post where I say what you think I said, but trust me it would be a waste of time for you. You probably just misconstrued what people said.

I said what I say in that above post, he wasn't worth the trouble to teams because of the massive PR mess that would create. When you're a marginal player and you're a lightning rod, teams to tend shy away.

None of this is rocket science.
 

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http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1116343&page=2&highlight=kaepernick+bortles

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This is a thread from 6 months ago where I say exactly what I just said. I even say that I thought JVille shouldve signed him prior to the 2017 season if they were serious about playing Chad Henne. They weren't and stayed w/ Bortles. So clearly I thought he could be 1 of the shitty/low end NFL QB's.

In this thread pretty much everyone is saying Kaep + Reid = good enough to be in the NFL but teams aren't gonna sign them if it is a PR nightmare. Once the bad PR died down it was a lot easier for the Panthers to sign Reid.

I don't know how you took peoples opinions in this thread to mean they just thought Kaepernick was out of the league for reasons only related to football, but you did.

You should just try taking a deep breathe, reading through what people are saying more, just try to understand what the other person is saying. I think you're always at a level of heightened emotion and it makes it difficult to be objective.
 

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I don't really care about CK, I certainly don't consider him a hero or some sort of social warrior. I don't believe there's systematic racism or social injustice in this country, save for maybe poor criminals not being able to hire good attorneys, and I'm absolutely 10,000% certain there's NO OPPRESSION

Did he win his lawsuit? IDK, hence you don't know either

My whole point is this.... a LOT of people said it was fact that he wasn’t good enough to play. And that the league was NOT conspiring because it was all due to his skill level.

you can’t make that claim for CK and NOT make that claim for Eric Reid who was also blackballed by the league and subject to drug tests so they could try to have a legit reason to keep him out the league. Wake the fuck up morons. Put your hate away.

Put your hate away


And that's how you interpret my post? I don't give a fuck what anybody else said, I gave you my thoughts. If you think that's hateful, well so be it I suppose.

To me, you're way too emotional about this issue.

As for talent, he may be more talented than some people think, but he's probably not as talented as you seem to think. What he is, beyond any reasonable doubt, is toxic.

Team owners don't want to have to deal with an angry fan-base, and coaches don't want any division in their locker room. Right, wrong or indifferent, he angered people. He made his bed, and management has every right to tell you how to behave while you're working. If he doesn't want to follow their rules, he won't be signed
 

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Man he really got the best of that deal.


Got paid $45M for like 2 good seasons. Plus a huge payday from this. Walks away with tons less CTE and messed up joints that most players. And forever politicized the NFL and made it far less fun for the assholes that couldn't stand someone kneeling.
 

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I don't get it. Kaep sued the league and won. How does he sell out here? He (and Reid) were awarded handsomely.

A) He didn't sue the league and win.

B) He sold out IMO because his thing from the start was about bringing awareness to his perceived racial injustices taking place in America. He had a platform and his actions created a conversation right or wrong. Now, he doesn't have a platform nor can he have any sort of conversation about his settlement with the NFL. So, what did he gain other than a boat load of money?

If he was truly set on initiating change in America, he should of rejected the NFL's settlement, used the courtroom as a platform and taken the verdict so he wouldn't be forced to abide by the non-disclosure agreement.
 

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A settlement to me isn’t selling out. Another article I was reading was stating that the settlement was more in favor of the NFL. Meaning they didn’t want to have stuff revealed to the public....which was going to be the next step.

People for some reason think CK sold out. I ask those ppl...where is the finish line then? The finish line was ALWAYS a lump sum of money. Because that’s how you make a lot of change is financially. Money talks. The NFL did not want that information out there. Emails conversations, videos, etc. did they want it to just go away or did they want to cover their ass?


There is NOTHING the nfl likes to do more than cover their own ass.

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They settled out of court, but I understand what you meant 3peet. And no, there is no sell out here because his protest never had anything to do with the NFL. The NFL case dealt with collusion to my knowledge (not anything race related...although I'm sure people would like to characterize it that way). He was deemed a trouble maker and the NFL just wanted him out of their hair. Unfortunately, he never did a good job of articulating his protest, but I think most people would agree that the "pig" socks and the rest of his disjointed comments had to do with police violence towards minorities and the like. The collusion case was well after his protest and had nothing to do with his protest. Whether he let the case run it's course in court or settled has nothing to do with selling out. And as I mentioned in my previous post, if the thought process was that it was perhaps 50/50, he did the right thing in not gambling (I realize that's hard for the gamblers here to understand....personally I have always hedged things like future wagers when I was in an advantageous situation...people do it with stocks all the time). I'm pretty well convinced he will be using some of those funds for some sort of charity related to social causes. It just would have been more interesting to know the exact amount to see what he kept for himself vs how committed he was to a cause. He'll give at least a million to something toward social causes over the next 6 months.

I don't consider Kaep a "trouble maker." I just view him as bad for business for all NFL teams. The controversy and trouble that comes with signing Kaep outweighs his skill level making his signing not worth the trouble. If Kaep had A. Rodgers talent, he'd be on a team right now.
 

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