Nobody is backtracking anything and I think you know it. You just didn't understand the question he was asking me and then jumped all over it. Then after you said "OK I see what you guys are saying!"
Saying AD over LeBron as an asset is 100% indisputable doesn't mean you think everyone in the world thinks it, just means it is clear to you. Similar to my Brady example.
Like I said, you're pretty much always going to take the best U23 player over the best O30 player. If you wanna get into revenue generating and all that that is a different issue but I was purely speaking to bball.
You brought my name up, I rarely ever come to your guys threads wanting to talk to you. Like that dumbass HarryCarey, I never respond to his threads... but he's always talking about me than complaining when I respond to correct his errors. If you didn't say anything about me, I'd never correct your mistakes.
I understood it perfectly. I honestly think now you failed to understand what CHOP was saying. Let me show you again just in case you forgot...
But let me clarify.
Cleveland could possibly be the one and only team in the league that would/could not make that trade for obvious reasons.
But if AD and LJ were in next years NBA draft all 30 teams would take AD #1.
Yes! As an asset. Like for the rest of time. Not for right now. You can disagree with that statement if you want but that is what he meant.
Also saying he "brought your name up" He didn't do it in an insulting way, he was just referencing a previous conversation on the site. GImme a break bro.
There's nothing there about assets. This is what he said...
But let me clarify.
Cleveland could possibly be the one and only team in the league that would/could not make that trade for obvious reasons.
But if AD and LJ were in next years NBA draft all 30 teams would take AD #1.
He's saying right now no one would trade AD for Lebron and no one would pick Lebron over AD. That's silly talk and that's what I'm talking about. If teams were picking for 5-6 years down the line and didn't care about winning or making a ton of money, then yea, AD is your guy. If you want to win championships, get tons of lucrative tv contracts, and make a shit ton of money, then Lebron is #1 at least for 2-3 more years.
Well yeah all 30 teams probably wouldn't. Some teams would rather go for the gusto and win now, some teams are more equipped to win now, etc.
I was saying moreso starting a team from scatch. Like I'd take Luck over Rodgers since he is 6 years younger but I don't think all 32 NFL GMs would even though I think it is pretty obvious. There is very rarely consensus on things like this, sometimes you gotta just know when someone is using hyperbole.
I'm talking about just contending to win championships. Yes, at the end of the day to win championships in the NBA you need a solid team. But regardless of what team Lebron has been on they are in the conversation for winning championships. We all saw what happened to the Cavs after he left, the Heat after he left. He changes the entire game and makes any squad he's on competitive. And I'd highly call Bosh a "star". He's a decent player, not like a Scottie Pippen or Shaq out there. Let's be real... AD truly needs a superstar to be competitive, Lebron needs a star or two to win championships against other teams loaded with stars.
Luck and Rodgers is a good debate and can't see anyone losing that one. But AD is no Luck. You guys are obviously way higher on AD than I am. I think he's more in line with the current youngish superstars like Curry, Griffin, Leonard, Durant, Westbrook, Paul, etc. He definitely isn't some game changing once in a life time superstar like MJ or Lebron. He's definitely one of the best players in the NBA, but no where near as God-like as you guys are making him. I can't imagine any GM actually taking him over Lebron if they truly did have a draft next year. AD hasn't earned that right yet, has to at least win a playoff game before you start crowning him king.
You linked an article showing 25% would. Now we're a year later and he was even better this year.
Also, the Pelicans are a pretty bad team/organization. Holiday and Anderson missed most of the year and he still got them to the playoffs. Sure if Durant is healthy they probably don't make it but the West was stacked this year and he just turned 22 in March. Durant's 3rd year on a loaded Thunder team they lost rd 1. Kobe's 3rd year he was airballing 3s vs the Jazz and coming off the bench.
Lookup players in their 3rd year, you'll find his was really impressive.
If they were in the East and healthy they're probably like a 3 seed.
