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  • I found this on their website.
    • Our NFL Late Phones Record Through Week 14:

      Star-Rated Plays: 29-27 (52%)
      NFL Marquees: 17-24-1 (41%)
      Monday Night Magic: 10-4 (71%)

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      Our Final Records for the College Regular Season Late Phones:

      Star-Rated Sides: 45-45 (50%)
      Star-Rated Totals: 30-26 (54%)
      College Marquees: 48-34-2 (59%)

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    While the actual records are pretty close to mind, they try to give the impression that that they are not doing all that bad whereas as I have

    documented, when the stars are figured in, they are down $8300 for the season at $100 a unit with the Late Phones when the cost of

    service is factored in.

    You can bet your ass that if they had a positive record for the season, those star rating would be factored in to embellish the record.

    In short the philosophy of Phil Steele/NC is and has always been Heads, NC wins and tails clients lose.

    I am convinced that this money grubbing and self serving prick would figuratively screw his mother over if it meant putting money in his

    pocket.












 

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One quick comment re: post 721, if any of you are wondering how NC can be down $8300 when the Late Phones are around 500, the answer in quite easy-lost JUICE.

For example look at the 75-71 record in college(for me it is 73-71).

Anyways just keep in mind for a 71-71 record and assuming that the average bet is for $300(it is actually higher but for this example leave it as is),

$30x71(the $30 difference is +300 for a win and -$330 for a loss), you have a deficit of $2130 right there.

In the pros the same kind of thinking applies to a lesser extent because fewer games.

However keep in mind that a lot of the wins out of the number came on 2 star picks from the Monday Night Magic 10-5 record, meaning that there record on

the higher weighted plays had a losing record, which would help to swell the deficit.

Also the NC figures don't include last weekend, which in themselves incurred a loss of 11.85 units of MINUS $1185 at $100 a unit.

Factor in the $3249 for cost of service, and you will see that the $8300 deficit is legitimate and that my documented figures are correct.
 

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One last comment for now.

If any of you have ever seen/heard Steele on tv/radio doing an intervIew, imo you would agree that he comes across as a warm, compassionate and likable person.

Don't be mislead by this outward appearance.

As I have shown too many times to count, in reality his outward appearance is just a façade/smokescreen to try to give you that impression.

Underneath that is a self serving cold/calculating, deceptive and clever liar/snake in the grass who will say and do anything for his own financial gain no matter who

stands to be affected negatively.

Personally I wouldn't trust this guy to give me the right time of day unless of course perhaps if in return I bought a subscription to PowerSweep

or one of the Late Phone Packages. lol
 

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Phil Steele is here to offer up his best bets.

Regular-season records

Steele: 31-41-1 (2-3)

Note: Lines courtesy of Caesars Sportsbook, unless otherwise noted. All times Eastern.

Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl

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Buffalo Bulls (-6.5, 52.5) vs. Charlotte 49ers

(2 p.m. Dec. 20 on ESPN at Thomas A. Robinson Stadium in Nassau, Bahamas)
Steele: I am on the Joe Moore Award committee for choosing the top offensive line in the country, and Charlotte's unit got high praise on our conference calls during the season. Buffalo also has a solid offensive line, paving the way for 254 rushing yards per game and 5 yards per carry while allowing just eight sacks. The Bulls lost their starting QB in Week 5, and though Kyle Vantrease has thrown for just 155 yards per game in his seven starts, the team is 6-1 ATS in those games. Charlotte has the stronger pass game, but Buffalo has a good-sized edge on defense. Both teams rank near the bottom of my special-teams rankings.
My power ratings have this one close to the line, so with the strong offensive lines, I will look to the over (the past five Bahamas Bowls have averaged 66.2 points per game).
Pick: Lean over 52.5

Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl


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Utah State Aggies (-4.5, 65) vs. Kent State Golden Flashes

(7:30 p.m. Dec. 20 on ESPN2 at Toyota Stadium in Frisco, Texas)
Steele: This one figures to be a shootout, with Utah State allowing foes 33 yards per game above their season average and Kent State yielding 96 yards per game above. The Golden Flashes have a very underrated QB in Dustin Crum, who threw 18 TDS with just two interceptions and is the team's leading rusher with 560 yards. Aggies QB Jordan Love is an NFL prospect, but he had a 32-6 TD/INT breakdown last season with a tremendous supporting cast. With just one other returning starter on offense, this season he has only 17 TDs vs. 16 INTs, and Utah State has gone from 48 PPG to 28 PPG. Kent State has covered six in a row as an underdog versus non-Power 5 teams and is getting a full touchdown here. (The line was Utah State -7 before three players were cited for marijuana use Tuesday.)
Pick: Lean Kent State +7

Celebration Bowl

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Alcorn State Braves vs. North Carolina A&T Aggies (-2.5, 51.5; Westgate)

(Noon Dec. 21 on ABC at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta)
Steele: This is the fifth Celebration Bowl, which pits the champions from the MEAC and SWAC. North Carolina A&T is 3-0 in this bowl game, including a 24-22 win over Alcorn State last season. With Noah Johnson rushing for 1,080 yards, Alcorn State averaged 285 yards per game rushing and 6.2 yards per carry last season. Johnson went down with a season-ending injury this season, but his replacement, Felix Harper, was the SWAC Offensive Player of the Year.
The Aggies' defense is coming off a game in which it held NC Central to 9 total yards of offense in a 54-0 shutout. My computer and average game grades both have NC A&T winning by 10 points, so there is some definite value here.
Pick: Lean NC A&T -2.5

New Mexico Bowl


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Central Michigan Chippewas vs. San Diego State Aztecs (-3.5, 41)

(2 p.m. Dec. 21 on ESPN at Dreamstyle Stadium in Albuquerque, New Mexico)
Steele: San Diego State games have topped 41 points just twice this season -- and they average 32 PPG. Central Michigan has the edge on offense, with RBs Jonathan Ward and Kobe Lewis, but the Aztecs' defense is No. 6 in the country, holding foes to 110 yards per game below their season average. When you think of San Diego State, you think of RBs who rush for 2,000 yards (two of them in past four years), but this year the top RB is Juwan Washington, with just 500 yards and a poor 3.3 yards per carry. The Aztecs have a significant edge on special teams at No. 17 in my rankings, with Central Michigan at No. 76, and that hurt them in the MAC title game. Central averaged just 13.6 points per game versus the five toughest defenses. I like the Aztecs to win, but they are laying more than a field goal, so I will lean with the under.
Pick: Lean under 41

Cure Bowl


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Liberty Flames vs. Georgia Southern Eagles (-5, 58.5)

(2:30 p.m. Dec. 21 on CBS Sports Network at Exploria Stadium in Orlando, Florida)
Steele: Liberty is 7-5 despite facing the weakest schedule in the country. Hugh Freeze took over a 6-6 team and transformed Stephen Calvert from a QB that had 21 TDs and 18 INTs last season to a 26-5 ratio this season. Despite the schedule, Liberty allowed foes 4.7 yards per carry rushing and 26 yards above their season average. That does not bode well against the Georgia Southern option offense that ran for 261 yards per game and 5.0 yards per carry. The Eagles took on LSU and Minnesota in nonconference play, and their defense held foes to 63 yards per game below their season average. This is Liberty's first bowl, and I will go with the team that has the much stronger defense and has played the far tougher schedule.
Pick: Georgia Southern -5

Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl


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SMU Mustangs (-3, 70.5) vs. Florida Atlantic Owls

(3:30 p.m. Dec. 21 on ABC at FAU Stadium in Boca Raton, Florida)
Steele: SMU is led by Texas transfer Shane Buechele (3,626 yards, 33 TDs, 9 INTS), and FAU is led by Oklahoma transfer Chris Robison (3,392 yards, 26 TDs, 6 INTs). The Owls won the Conference USA title this season, and their two nonconference losses were to Ohio State and UCF. SMU has just two losses this season, but the Mustangs were on the road to Memphis and Navy, who each had double-digit wins. The Owls have the better defense statistically, but the Mustangs had 50 sacks and took on the tougher schedule. I have been riding FAU all season, and though this team is a home underdog, head coach Lane Kiffin has accepted the job to coach Ole Miss. This should be a very competitive, high-scoring game.
Pick: Lean over 70.5

Camellia Bowl


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Florida International Panthers vs. Arkansas State Red Wolves (-2.5, 63)

(5:30 p.m. Dec. 21 on ESPN at Cramton Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama)
Steele: Arkansas State has a dangerous offense. Despite losing QB Logan Bonner after four games, backup Layne Hatcher stepped in and threw for 314 yards per game, and wide receiver Omar Bayless is among the nation's receiving leaders with 1,473 yards and 16 TDs. The Red Wolves' defense was hurt by injuries all season and lost four defensive tackles for the season, leaving them vulnerable to the run (they allowed 224 rushing yards per game and 5.2 yards per carry). FIU is led by running backs Anthony Jones and Napoleon Maxwell, who combined for 1,411 yards rushing. Should the Red Wolves stack the box, QB James Morgan is an NFL prospect who has hit 62% of his passes with a 39-10 TD/INT ratio in two seasons. Butch Davis is 6-3 in bowl games, and Blake Anderson is 1-4.
Pick: FIU +2.5

Mitsubishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl


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Boise State Broncos vs. Washington Huskies (-3.5, 49.5)

(7:30 p.m. Dec. 21 on ABC at Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas)
Steele: Chris Petersen started his head-coaching career at Boise State in 2006 and was there until 2014, when he left for Washington. Boise State should have both talented QBs (Hank Bachmeier and Jaylon Henderson) available. The Broncos' defense is led by defensive end Curtis Weaver (13.5 sacks), and the unit held foes to 67 yards per game below their season average. QB Jacob Eason topped 300 yards passing once all season versus FBS foes and will be without his top receiver in tight end Hunter Bryant and left tackle Trey Adams, who are opting to sit this one out. The Huskies are holding opponents to 71 yards per game below their season average. I could make a case for both teams here, so with two solid defenses, I will lean with the under.
Pick: Lean under 49.5

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl


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Appalachian State Mountaineers (-16.5, 48) vs. UAB Blazers

(9 p.m. Dec. 21 on ESPN at Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans)
Steele: UAB coach Bill Clark took over a team that had not played football for two years and guided it to a bowl game. The Blazers were C-USA champs last season, and this season, with a very inexperienced team, the Blazers got to the C-USA title game. UAB QB Tyler Johnston missed four games, and RB Spencer Brown had five games with two carries or fewer down the stretch. UAB should be healthier for this game, and its defense holds opponents to 294 yards per game. UAB's schedule is 127th in my rankings, but App State has played the 106th-toughest schedule. App State QB Zac Thomas and RB Darrynton Evans are both dynamic, but UAB has some big play WRs in Austin Watkins and Kendall Parham. App State was outgained in four of its wins this year, with a first-down deficit of 106-63. The talent gap is not as large as the spread, and Clark will have his Blazers motivated, while the Mountaineers have a head coach in his first career game.
Pick: UAB +16.5

Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl


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UCF Knights (-17, 61.5) vs. Marshall Thundering Herd

(2:30 p.m. Dec. 23 on ESPN at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida)
Steele: UCF was 13-0 in 2017 and 12-0 last season, coming up short versus LSU in the Fiesta Bowl. This season, the Knights are 9-3 and playing in the Gasparilla Bowl, and they could be in for a letdown. However, UCF could come out with a vengeance in nearby Tampa and make a statement. QB Dillon Gabriel had more TD passes (27) than McKenzie Milton did last season (25). UCF has a significant edge on offense, with plenty of explosive playmakers, and the Knights were No. 4 in the country averaging 537 yards per game. Marshall comes in No. 73 in that category, averaging 397 yards. Marshall was on course for the C-USA title game but lost to Charlotte and finished 7-1 in C-USA play. UCF is the stronger team and should win this game, but I am leaning with the 'dog here, as Marshall is 10-3 ATS the past 13 times it has been an underdog, and the Knights are on a 2-7 ATS run overall. Marshall head coach Doc Holliday is 6-0 straight-up and ATS in bowls.
Pick: Lean Marshall +17


SoFi Hawai'i Bowl


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Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors vs. BYU Cougars (-1.5, 64)

(8 p.m. Dec. 24 on ESPN at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu)
Steele: Most bowls have a split crowd, but Hawai'i will be playing in its home stadium. BYU QB Zach Wilson went 18-of-18 passing in a 49-18 bowl win last season. Wilson missed four games midseason but has returned to form. BYU was the only team in the country to open with four Power 5 opponents and pulled upsets of Tennessee and USC. Hawai'i lost twice at Boise, including in the Mountain West title game. BYU beat that same Boise team, but it was against a backup QB. Hawai'i is 4-4 straight-up and 3-5 ATS in this bowl. Hawai'i went to the run-and-shoot, and head coach Nick Rolovich goes with the hot hand at QB between Cole McDonald and Chevan Cordeiro. In its last six regular-season games, Hawai'i averaged 188 yards per game rushing, and the offensive line allowed just 22 sacks on 588 pass attempts. BYU's defense has recorded just 12 sacks. Hawai'i beat a pair of Pac-12 teams at home this season, and BYU is just 1-5 as a favorite this season.
Pick: Lean Hawai'i +1.5
 

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First of all Todd(AO) pumps the Double Bowl PowerSweep issue and tells us of the two ways to get it:

1) by buying it on website.

2) by calling the office.

He obviously "forgot" to mention #3, which is simply to go t post #722 and to get it for FREE by clicking on the link. lol

The Todd reminds us that the Bowls start this weekend and that there are eight games going ,and that a non PS subscriber can get all

eight sides and all eight totals for a $189.

This is referred to as Full Full Executive Service for the Bowls ONLY.

It goes without saying that Todd doesn't give any past history as to how the first weekend of Bowl games or for that matter how the entire 40 games

have done because even the clever and deceptive Phil Steele and the rest of the crew can't find a way to put a positive spin on their at best mediocre

record.

Don't forget also if someone wants a better rate, they can buy the ENTIRE forty game sides and total for $649.

Moving on and here is where NC gets caught up in contradictions and bullshit.

Last week Todd stated the last three weeks of the NFL regular season(Full NFL Executive Service) including the GOY would cost a non PS subscriber $499

or $166 a week.

Hmmm-today Todd tells us for this week only the cost is just $75.

That doesn't make sense as one expects a discount for buying more weeks rather than paying more for them.

However, imo the real reason they did it is because they couldn't find a sucker who would shell out the $499 to begin with and because they are also

pumping the colleges for $189-even these folks realize that there is so much money to go around and especially at Christmas time.

If I am wrong and the $499 asking price for three weeks also included the colleges, then all I can say is that Todd did not state it very clearly and

needs to learn how to put together a coherent message.

For me it seems overall that Phil Steele and NC spend an inordinate amount of time concocting these daily and sometimes overlapping

and confusing "Dinner Specials" to attract attention.

Perhaps if instead they focused their efforts into revamping their obviously ineffective and outdated handicapping methods, they might improve on

their current 50% picks and at the very least reduce some of the whopping deficits/losses their clients which I have documented.

THE COMP. TODAY IS IN BASKETBALL AND IS A 3* FROM JIM FEIST ON THE CELTICS - 2 1/2.
 

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Early thoughts

Today I want to show everyone why and how the Bowl Season and how Phil Steele/NC use it represents a microcosm of how they operate in general.

Also I am going to show the similarities between and differences between NC and a lottery scratch ticket.

I warn you this may be fairly lengthy, so read only if you are interested.

Ok first of all NC is selling lots of different types of packages and newsletters for these games.

First you have The Double Bowl PowerSweep Issue which gives picks on most of the games(mostly sides) with ratings from 1 to 4 stars(maybe there is a 5 also-not sure).

The you have the PowerPlays Newsletters with various ratings.

The there is the 40 Bowl-all 40 sides and all forty totals, which they have been pumping this week.

There are also the Phil Steele Inside the Poopbox, Tour picks and just plain old picks which Buzz Kill posted yesterday.

In addition Steele/NC will be selling individual games and weekend packages also for the Later Phones, Marquees, opinions, etc.

Why does all of this matter?

Well by so doing from NC's point of view it serves at least two purposes:

1) Deriving/extorting as much money as possible from these various pick outlets.

2) increasing their chances of finding at least something which wins, which will allow NC to toot their horn about and hopefully get people to buy and

to divert attention from that which lost.

Lets take a look at this year starting with PowerSweep.

I just took a glance at the posted newsletters and see right off the bat that they are CLAIMING an overall record of 506 and 385 over the last

twelve years which is almost 57%.

What NC DOESN'T tell you though(and neither has Todd on comp. line) what record was LAST year and in the last few years.

I had these records at CM and am in process of trying to retrieve them with no guarantees.

The point is that until proven otherwise NC has to go back 12 years in order to make the PS profitable.

Even though who is to say that they aren't lying about the twelve year record and/or what they are counting and not counting to come up with those

records.

Frankly, I believe it is a lie/bullshit.

I don't follow PowerPlays all that much, but unless I missed something, on their Bowl Issue unless I missed something, I don't see any claimed records from

past seasons-draw your own conclusions.

Now onto the 40 sides and 40 totals.

Again nothing has been said about the record last year and historically speaking since Todd started pumping it in the last week or so.

That in itself tells me that it hasn't done particularly well and/or that Phil/NC are still looking for a way to claim it is profitable.

Also keep in mind that with this package NC has lots of ways/opportunities to claim that something won.

Ok-well if the 40 sides and 40 totals are profitable and say go say 45-35, well even with the $649 cost of service tossed in, they can say they were profitable

by $1(lol) if everyone just played all of the games at $100 apiece($4500 -$3850).

However if they are not profitable as a whole, then NC can look for and extrapolate what was profitable.

For example, these picks also contain Late Phone rated picks as well as Marquees of various ratings and also opinions.

Thus all NC has to do if the 40 sides and 40 totals cannot show a profit on its own, is to look for any segment which wins and brag about that like that cited above

while not talking about that which lost come next season.

I hope that you get the overall picture here.

Now to my comparison to scratch tickets.

Here is Massachusetts, where I reside, on lots of scratch tickets, you can win in at least three ways:

1) match your numbers to the winning numbers or if you get a bonus symbol which automatically gives you a cash award.

2) match your numbers to the bonus winning numbers

3) find three dollar amounts for prizes and win that amount.

Well in a way NC does the same thing in a sense as outlined above.

However the big differences are that in the scratch tickets the customer ls actually given a legitimate chance of winning in several different ways.

Conversely using my comments and examples above, the various ways of winning apply to NC ONLY and are simply a means which allows them

in theory to pull the wool over the eyes of potential and present clients and present a rosy picture of how they have been doing(which as I have

documented this year and for the last four year is pure bullshit and a total lie) in the hopes that there will be sucker/naïve folks

and just plain dumb folks who cant see through this.

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Not much remarkable on comp. line. today.

Todd pumps the PowerSweep Double POOP Bowl Issue.

He once again refers to it as "famous."

My response again is what is it famous for-surely not for the accuracy of their picks over the last few years because these criminals

would have bragged to you about if they had done well.

From my perspective what the issue is "famous" for is compiling mounds of worthless shit as far as their relevancy to the accuracy of picking games

and "famous" in Steele's mind for being probably one who is able/has the time to accumulate this garbage.

THE COMP. TODAY IS A 3* FROM PHIL AND TODD, OOPS LOL, I MEAN FROM OVER THE HILL JIM FEIST ON WILLIAM AND MARY - 1 1/2.
 

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I just emailed this to Phil Steele, with copies to Todd the comp. guy and NC:

How about showing a little honesty and state EXACTLY how you did with these plays last season and at least the season before rather thanthan going back twelve years as you did on your website with PowerSweep with undocumented records to show they have been winning.
That is just plain fucking wrong, the same as what you do with all your record keeping(just find any time frame you choose to give a totally
false impression) and why you folks have fallen so far from grace.
I openly challenge you to do this!!
 

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Nothing new on comp. line-Todd reminds us that the Bowls start today and pumps th PowerPISS Double Bowl issue.

THE NFL TOTALS COMP. OF THE WEEK IS UNDER DALLAS 46.
 

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For all I care Phil Steele can take his "Weekly Tour Picks" and anything else he puts out to the local landfill because for the most part his picks

are composed are worth of what is usually dumped there.
 

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For all I care Phil Steele can take his "Weekly Tour Picks" and anything else he puts out to the local landfill because for the most part his picks

are composed are worth of what is usually dumped there.

Now you tell me savage, I thought this was the local landfill!

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Now you tell me savage, I thought this was the local landfill!

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lol-trash, shit, garbage, etc-that is what I associate with a land with Phil Steele picks.\

Perhaps I should have added the words "sewer/waste" to my original post.
 

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Here we go.

Todd claims that NC went 3-1 yesterday including a 3* on Buffalo.

At the moment I see no plays listed at the Sports Monitor for yesterday.

Until/if/when the 3* is confirmed, it will not count when I do my recap next week.

Today costs $149 for Full Executive Service for today only(pros not included and/or at least Todd didn't say it is)

THE COMP. TODAY IS A SINGLE MARQUEE ON UNDER UAB 47 1/2.

ps I now see the 3* on Buffalo is listed at the SM, so disregard what I said above.
 

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I have to go out for a while.

IF Late Phones and/or other plays are posted, feel free to post here.

I changed ny mind and decided that Full Executive Service for $149 today does include any Pro Plays today even though Todd the Turd didn't specify it.
 

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