Some things I need to address

[PatsFan1283]

this is one of the two convos that should be allowed to happen freely here.
1. BAS
2. SBR

both should be held accountable for 35k.
i had trust in both.

Next thing I know SBR is throwing BAS under the bus. I believe fully that BAS will pay. Do I see why people who don’t know him are tired of hearing that? Yes. SBR attempting to create distance is concerning to the odds of the winners being paid which should never be in question

If it was really said that these aren't site sponsored contests then I don't see why they would have liability to pay. Seems like everyone going in knew that if someone that held the money ended up not being able to pay out for whatever reason then that would be the end of it.

I think BAS pays but expecting SBR to take on 34k of liability for not very much upside at all (doubt they care if contests run here or not) is pretty far fetched.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

I mean, this guy is trying to tie in what happened with BAS to Defying booking bets with posters (if that even happened, no clue on that one)

And Loomis hasn't posted here in years so whatever he is complaining about happened a long damn time ago. Maybe check with your therapist (get one if you don't have one) about how you can get over that.

Jesus....

You don’t have a clue on that one. That’s all you had to say PoserPats. You don’t bet sports like that. You’re a FDS player and a future player. And an occasionally a barronman type wager on a random game. You’re a poser. A fakewiseguy sticking up for a wannabe bookie

You and defying make a great relationship I am sure

 

[HotshotGambler]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski

This guy would never allow $34,000 + to go unpaid...

 

[PatsFan1283]

You don’t have a clue on that one. That’s all you had to say PoserPats. You don’t bet sports like that. You’re a FDS player and a future player. And an occasionally a barronman type wager on a random game. You’re a poser. A fakewiseguy sticking up for a wannabe bookie

You and defying make a great relationship I am sure

I hear ya...Honestly, there are probably SSRI's that would take the edge off a bit and help you to think a little more clearly, as well as make some of your anger subside.

The occasional online spat is one thing, many of us have stepped into that trap but to come to this site every single day to start shit with posters (not even just in the RR) is a miserable way to live. Holding grudges with anonymous online posters from stuff that happened 6 months ago, 1 year ago, 3 years ago, etc...That's just brutal.

Just get some help man.

 

[Defying]

If it was really said that these aren't site sponsored contests then I don't see why they would have liability to pay. Seems like everyone going in knew that if someone that held the money ended up not being able to pay out for whatever reason then that would be the end of it.

I think BAS pays but expecting SBR to take on 34k of liability for not very much upside at all (doubt they care if contests run here or not) is pretty far fetched.

If BAS doesn’t come through, The irony of one of an employee of SBR cheating players will not go over well here or there.

if a sports book had an employee steal money (not accusing bas of anything - all theoretical) and a book doesn’t pay, does sbr hold the book responsible? Yes. Sbr image is to be a players advocate... this will tarnish if not ruin the imagine within there own community

 

[PatsFan1283]

If BAS doesn’t come through, The irony of one of an employee of SBR cheating players will not go over well here or there.

if a sports book had an employee steal money (not accusing bas of anything - all theoretical) and a book doesn’t pay, does sbr hold the book responsible? Yes. Sbr image is to be a players advocate... this will tarnish if not ruin the imagine within there own community

They hold the book responsible in terms of trying to get them to pay, they don't pick up the tab. It's not the same thing.

They would try to get BAS to pay (again, hypothetical since I believe he is paying like many others) but they aren't gonna cut a check for 34k just like they wouldn't do with a book.

And I doubt posters at SBR care if it was stated that the contest has no affiliations with the site and is a posters contest. If SBR had BAS make that clear then not sure why posters would blame them for non-payment. They knew what they were getting into in terms of joining contests that weren't SBR endorsed. I doubt any of those people expect SBR to pay even. Haven't heard any of them say they do.

When endorsed books stiff? Do they pick up the tab? Doubt it.

 

[4nic8ing]

They hold the book responsible in terms of trying to get them to pay, they don't pick up the tab. It's not the same thing.

Yes and then if they don't do it they give the book a downgrade. So do we need a review site of review sites??

 

[HotshotGambler]

I won’t be paying my rent for March, Thanks BAS. Can I come live with you and your wife? I can be your caregiver

 

[Defying]

They hold the book responsible in terms of trying to get them to pay, they don't pick up the tab. It's not the same thing.

They would try to get BAS to pay (again, hypothetical since I believe he is paying like many others) but they aren't gonna cut a check for 34k just like they wouldn't do with a book.

And I doubt posters at SBR care if it was stated that the contest has no affiliations with the site and is a posters contest. If SBR had BAS make that clear then not sure why posters would blame them for non-payment. They knew what they were getting into in terms of joining contests that weren't SBR endorsed.

First in my example, SBR is the book in that situation. Ultimately, they own this place. SBR should stand behind there brand and employees. 30k should be a drop in the bucket to them.ive heard how much they charge.

BAS is a head moderator, the literal user facing brand of SBR, if I saw a contest by the head mod, I assume it would be safe backed by the company.

It’s shady of SBR to be trying to create distance. i 100% expected players to be okay from this, bc even if worse case BAS passes, SBR is a brand of the people. I was dumbfounded by there response. There should and will be outrage if they don’t step up, if I was still a mod here, my stance would be the same. They should be offering to pay people and working on getting right with BAS once he’s able to, why didn’t they take that approach??

 

[Michelangelo]

I've played in many of these contests and do recall BAS saying that these contests were NOT sponsored by the site.

I've also won my share of contests here and as a money order participant I never had any trouble being paid by BAS.

 

[HotshotGambler]

The past means nothing at this point, shit changes sometimes overnight.

 

[PatsFan1283]

First in my example, SBR is the book in that situation. Ultimately, they own this place. SBR should stand behind there brand and employees. 30k should be a drop in the bucket to them.ive heard how much they charge.

BAS is a head moderator, the literal user facing brand of SBR, if I saw a contest by the head mod, I assume it would be safe backed by the company.

It’s shady of SBR to be trying to create distance. i 100% expected players to be okay from this, bc even if worse case BAS passes, SBR is a brand of the people. I was dumbfounded by there response. There should and will be outrage if they don’t step up, if I was still a mod here, my stance would be the same. They should be offering to pay people and working on getting right with BAS once he’s able to, why didn’t they take that approach??

You saying they should stand behind their brand and employees is just an opinion really. You think it would be virtuous to do so but they already decided to absolve themselves of that risk by saying the contests weren't RX/SBR endorsed.

I guess it would be nice and strengthen the brand but that is more your opinion. You can say it is something you would do if you were in charge but I don't see how you think their current stance is unethical if they wanted it explicitly stated that the contests aren't RX/SBR affiliated. They're just in the clear on the 35k man. It'd be nice if they wanna foot the bill but they obviously thought there was a non-zero chance something like this could happen and took preliminary measures to mitigate that risk.

 

[HotshotGambler]

Listen if he stiffs us, it’s on us for trusting another human person with $35,000

Remember the old saying, don’t trust anyone it really is true.

 

[StevieRay]

I won’t be paying my rent for March, Thanks BAS. Can I come live with you and your wife? I can be your caregiver

Come on man. Seriously.

 

[PatsFan1283]

First in my example, SBR is the book in that situation. Ultimately, they own this place. SBR should stand behind there brand and employees. 30k should be a drop in the bucket to them.ive heard how much they charge.

BAS is a head moderator, the literal user facing brand of SBR, if I saw a contest by the head mod, I assume it would be safe backed by the company.

It’s shady of SBR to be trying to create distance. i 100% expected players to be okay from this, bc even if worse case BAS passes, SBR is a brand of the people. I was dumbfounded by there response. There should and will be outrage if they don’t step up, if I was still a mod here, my stance would be the same. They should be offering to pay people and working on getting right with BAS once he’s able to, why didn’t they take that approach??

And this assumption would be wrong because it was stated otherwise. Don't think I can state the position any clearer than that.

 

[HotshotGambler]

Not a joke StevieRay, Not everyone balling like you and Booker T.

 

[HacheMan]

Willie - as a business owner yourself, do you find it unreasonable for guys to be upset an update from a mod or RX Managenent hasn’t been offered since they started complaining about non-payment on the 19th of January?

I saw the update, BAS had a heart attack and strokes. After he started this thread, he had another stroke and doctors took his electronic devices away. Presumably to reduce stress, totally plausible despite the fact at least one poster said "he never heard of such a thing"

That's all the update I need to hear.

People should be concerned, about BAS's health. I trust he will be fine, but if he's not that's the only risk they have for not getting paid.

Willie you're answering a ghost of a poster who's already commented several times in this thread.

Someone trying to play you for a fool as he does with most of us.

 

[StevieRay]

Just saying if you don’t have rent $ based on a contest u may win or not over course of a football season, ya may wanna step away from gambling

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

And this assumption would be wrong because it was stated otherwise. Don't think I can state the position any clearer than that.

Lol. You have cleared this up for him. I have cleared this up for him. Hacheman has cleared this up for him. And even BAS has cleared this up for him. Defying is an imbecile.

 

[HotshotGambler]

Stevie, I roll the dice brother all day every day!!!