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Defying =piece of shit
I would have never saw this if Willie didn’t quote.

we both know you’re a fraud, i don’t care about what you say. You’re here to troll people bc you have no other life, see your signature. You say things in hopes people think you know what you’re talking about. You’ve always been the RX clown. I’m only here advocating here for the player, yeah real pos for me to do. Continue to be a made up character, no one takes you seriously. I won’t be addressing you again.

He he has no idea what he’s talking about. It doesn’t pertain to this thread. He’s so attention seeking he rather fuel a petty, made up beef to have eyes on him than a very serious issue of players potentially being stiffed.
 
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What else is there? I think its pretty much the golden standard.


The golden standard if you are a book. I don’t give a shit if you have a 100% payout rate as a Mod lmfao. THATS NOT YOUR JOB. First of all if you don’t have a book to bet with you probably are a shady individual. And you are conflicting your interest as a moderator when you are booking action at the same time. If you don’t see that you are a fucking moron.
 

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Winners should be expect to be paid. Winners should hold the forum, management, ownership responsible - the posting audience here too, me included. Winners not being paid should be no different than a book stiffing winners. SBR going to need to downgrade there own rating. If they continue to deny any responsibility, how can you take their ratings seriously as a "protector of the player" when they stiff there own.

Bringing the convo back where it should be, accountability.
 

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Proof of Heart Attack and Strokes? Most jobs require some sort of proof, sad but true. Hospital Paperwork with his name removed, would do alot for the forum or a screen shot of the Pay*** balance.
 
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I would have never saw this if Willie didn’t quote.

we both know you’re a fraud, i don’t care about what you say. You’re here to troll people bc you have no other life, see your signature. You say things in hopes people think you know what you’re talking about. You’ve always been the RX clown. I’m only here advocating here for the player, yeah real pos for me to do. Continue to be a made up character, no one takes you seriously. I won’t be addressing you again.

He he has no idea what he’s talking about. It doesn’t pertain to this thread. He’s so attention seeking he rather fuel a petty, made up beef to have eyes on him than a very serious issue of players potentially being stiffed.


Yeah keep deflecting. Everything I said was fact. You NEVER see my posts because you choose not to see them. I’m the fraud lmfaooo you’re the fake bookie/mod trying to enforce shit here at the same time. You fucking disgust me. Nobody would ever know you are making a decision with a clear conscious. First thing you need to do is start learning how to respect your superiors. Show your support and respect for Hacheman. That’s your suprerior. You were a fucking piece of shit tyrant mod. Yeah I don’t know what I’m talking about. Threatening to ban me and take away my PM for somebody initiating a beef with me. Lmfao how ironic you fucking loser
 

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Proof of Heart Attack and Strokes? Most jobs require some sort of proof, sad but true. Hospital Paperwork with his name removed, would do alot for the forum or a screen shot of the Pay*** balance.

I require proof from my employees. Even if a death in family we require proof. Pretty standard procedure.
 
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"Air Bettors And Posers Like Air Bettor PatsFan1283 Are The Worst
Racists And Bigots Like Racist Stanford Sam Are The Worst"

What kind of lowlife has a signature that unfairly slanders fellow posters? Defying pointed this out.

I have seen no evidence that PatsFan1283 is an air bettor.

And I have seen no evidence that SanfordSam is a racist.

While we are on the topic of mods, how is it that they allow you to spew this crap in your signature?
 
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You say I start beef? When you were a tyrant mod/wannabe bookie you threatened to ban and take away my PMs because loomis PMed me talking shit. I did nothing. Yet here you go again saying that I start beef. And that I’m here for beef. Maybe you’re a better bookie than you were a mod. In that case, congrats. Still unethical as fuck what you did. And now we are seeing the aftermath of it all.
 
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Of course this piece of shit doesn’t want contests to stop. Look at him. Fucking clown.
 
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"Air Bettors And Posers Like Air Bettor PatsFan1283 Are The Worst
Racists And Bigots Like Racist Stanford Sam Are The Worst"

What kind of lowlife has a signature that unfairly slanders fellow posters? Defying pointed this out.

I have seen no evidence that PatsFan1283 is an air bettor.

And I have seen no evidence that SanfordSam is a racist.

While we are on the topic of mods, how is it that they allow you to spew this crap in your signature?



ARE YOU FUCKiMG KIDDInG!?!?!?!?!? You need to open your eyes. Check the rubber room. Check the canelo/ggg thread.

Plenty of fucking evidence. Plenty. You think I give a fuck what some cornball defying says? This dude needs to sit down and he knows it. But he doesn’t want the contests to stop so he will fight it. Open your eyes.
 

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Why would he say he only found out about this dispute 2-3 days ago?

I don't know but at that time, the only questions about being paid were posts in the contest forum by hotshot and maybe one or two others. I sensed something was wrong when I noticed that a hotshot post was deleted (don't assume it was bas). Another post also was deleted in that thread yesterday.

Since BAS and I have always only dealt with money orders, I was usually paid later than most other winners. I didn't begin posting about this until I saw the pay pal people also hadn't yet been paid.

BAS did pay me either shortly before or after Thanksgiving $3,000 for winning the college contest. It was a few weeks after it ended, which wasn't unusual. A number of things could have happened with BAS and we aren't going to know until some of his personal contacts here reach him or he returns. He has been in this business a long time, so I'm going to assume if he's able to pay he will and hopefully sooner than later.

When I read BAS initial post in this thread, it had the feeling of a farewell letter. Especially since he didn't even mention paying the contest winners. Hopefully I'm wrong and we're paid, but only time will tell.
 

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I saw the update, BAS had a heart attack and strokes. After he started this thread, he had another stroke and doctors took his electronic devices away. Presumably to reduce stress, totally plausible despite the fact at least one poster said "he never heard of such a thing"

That's all the update I need to hear.

People should be concerned, about BAS's health. I trust he will be fine, but if he's not that's the only risk they have for not getting paid.

this is one of the two convos that should be allowed to happen freely here.
1. BAS
2. SBR

both should be held accountable for 35k.
i had trust in both.

Next thing I know SBR is throwing BAS under the bus. I believe fully that BAS will pay. Do I see why people who don’t know him are tired of hearing that? Yes. SBR attempting to create distance is concerning to the odds of the winners being paid which should never be in question
 

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"Air Bettors And Posers Like Air Bettor PatsFan1283 Are The Worst
Racists And Bigots Like Racist Stanford Sam Are The Worst"

What kind of lowlife has a signature that unfairly slanders fellow posters? Defying pointed this out.

I have seen no evidence that PatsFan1283 is an air bettor.

And I have seen no evidence that SanfordSam is a racist.

While we are on the topic of mods, how is it that they allow you to spew this crap in your signature?

I've had worse things made up about me than that. Would be annoying to be called a racist though.

I remember when Vitterd said Willie beat his wife in his sig and it wasn't taken down. Just don't think mods really care about stuff like that.

As far as Mob goes, he's obviously got some type of mental health issue. Always trying to start something with someone on here, always going off on nonsensical tangents, always extremely combative and vulgar with other posters, can't ever let stuff go. Most people can't even understand half the stuff he says. Life probably sucks, who knows? I try to ignore the guy as he is clearly unhinged. Everyone here sees it but they didn't ban Vitterd until 2017, GB until 2019 so I wouldn't hold my breathe about him being reprimanded for his behavior anytime soon. He's currently trying to tank this thread talking about Defying booking some action, Defying hasn't posted on this site with any type of regularity in like 3+ years. He has nothing to do with these contests.

He should save whatever issues he has with other posters for another thread. Ideally, he would be neutered but it won't happen.
 

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You say I start beef? When you were a tyrant mod/wannabe bookie you threatened to ban and take away my PMs because loomis PMed me talking shit. I did nothing. Yet here you go again saying that I start beef. And that I’m here for beef. Maybe you’re a better bookie than you were a mod. In that case, congrats. Still unethical as fuck what you did. And now we are seeing the aftermath of it all.

I mean, this guy is trying to tie in what happened with BAS to Defying booking bets with posters (if that even happened, no clue on that one)

And Loomis hasn't posted here in years so whatever he is complaining about happened a long damn time ago. Maybe check with your therapist (get one if you don't have one) about how you can get over that.

Jesus....
 
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Bringing the convo back where it should be, accountability.


You started all this bookmaking shit here. You really do need to listen to your superiors. SBR doesn’t want contests. BAS was running it solely. With all your bookkeeping expertise you should have been a backup plan with your amazing track record. What the fuck? You are more accountable for this than you think pal. Lot of unprofessionalism you started with here as a mod. The absolute last thing you should be doing is questioning Hache
 

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