So, You motherf*****s cheated again !

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If the coach of the Saints Payton can get suspended for an entire season for the one thing he did.......Belichick should be suspended for 2 seasons & the team should lose draft picks for 2 years.......this Pats team has been a black eye for the NFL for many years with all their BS

Yes. Air in a ball > concussions.
 

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Yes. Air in a ball > concussions.
you are right. it is about air in balls. what a deep thinker.

fair play and nobody habitually cheating should not be a priority by the league. it is only the main thing that all sports are based on. why are you on a sports forum???
 

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So for some of you, just because the game was a blowout this is no big deal...the final score does not change the intent of the act...no one knew the game would be a blowout...but it could have...it could have with the close game the previous week with the Ravens
 

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So for some of you, just because the game was a blowout this is no big deal...the final score does not change the intent of the act...no one knew the game would be a blowout...but it could have...it could have with the close game the previous week with the Ravens

I get your point but you act like the teams played with different footballs or something. It's like the weather, both teams have to play no matter what.
 

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I get your point but you act like the teams played with different footballs or something. It's like the weather, both teams have to play no matter what.

This controversy didn't start on the rx..it's all over ESPN
 

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I get your point but you act like the teams played with different footballs or something. It's like the weather, both teams have to play no matter what.

They did play with different balls, which is kind of the whole point of the controversy.
 

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No kidding right? and has more energy than 90% of the coaches in the NFL. Still scratch my head that he's over 60.


I thought Pete was like 50 the way he jumps around out there.......I'm in my early 40's & he could easily beat my butt in any sport with his energy.
 

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No, I mean both qbs played with the same football.

correct. The New England brain trust, with their miles of wisdom, let 'winning' trump all. They KNOWINGLY broke a rule to get a perceived advantage. They, sadly, have a history of this.

The investigation is to confirm whether this was indeed INTENTIONAL. So far, Pats are quiet :)




sport has rules. It's expected teams abide by them. Live with honor.
 

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Its kind of funny that a week ago Brady said that maybe the Ravens should study the rule book more. Irony at its best
 

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Its kind of funny that a week ago Brady said that maybe the Ravens should study the rule book more. Irony at its best

Or how he chuckled when the deflated ball issue was mentioned to him and he said "Now I've heard it all".
 

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I say as punishment let Seattle play with under inflated balls in the Super Bowl and make New England play with over inflated balls...
 

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Both qbs did not play with the same football. They change footballs, the Colts had 12 footballs that they used and the Patriots had a different 12 footballs.

ah gotcha, my bad.



'The Patriots used underinflated footballs on Sunday night.

The next question is how did it happen?



According to a National Football League letter about the investigation into the controversy that was shared with the Globe, the Patriots were informed that the league’s initial findings indicated that the game balls did not meet specifications. The league inspected each of the Patriots’ 12 game balls twice at halftime, using different pressure gauges, and found footballs that were not properly inflated.
According to ESPN, 11 of the 12 game balls were found to be underinflated by about 2 pounds each. The NFL specifications say they must be inflated to 12½ to 13½ pounds.

The investigation is still ongoing.

The Colts reportedly grew suspicious after linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted Tom Brady late in the second quarter. A softer football is easier to throw and catch, especially in rainy conditions, as was the case Sunday night.

According to Newsday, Jackson gave the ball to a member of the Colts’ equipment staff, who notified coach Chuck Pagano, who then relayed a message to general manager Ryan Grigson in the press box. He contacted Mike Kensil, NFL director of football operations, who then told the on-field officials at halftime.'

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...d-footballs/7UlPZI3eotRTBadM89saeO/story.html



let's hope there's a simple explanation. :)
 

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As Red Eye already said, you are missing the point. No one is saying they won because of it. It's the mentality that they have to break some rules. It's mind-boggling.

arnie, all I am asking people to consider is which of these 2 is more likely:

A). Officials are unable, for some mystical reason, to detect under-inflated footballs and another Premier QB speaks openly about using over-inflated footballs basically DARING refs to crack down on him because he is an IDIOT who wants to get busted using improperly inflated footballs

OR

B). its not a thing Refs & players, coaches and league office pay attention to because fudging a bit on psi UNder or OVer has gone on for as long as the NFL has been existed, by QBs who have a preference for slight improper inflation. Its not been considered a big deal.

Which of those 2 sounds more plausible?

If B. seems more likely to be reality then there is a chance that Belichick wasn't "consciously cheating". Thats all I'm sayin.

Theres a very clear path that, if one looks at this objectively and with common sense, leads to a Longtime HC of a top-tier team NOT having premeditatedly "cheated" here.

At the very least were this a court case the judge would dismiss this crap in a heartbeat, "reasonable doubt" so much all over this it'd be a challenge to find even one thing that implicates belichick directly in taking air out the balls.

Except for that image that The Guesser found of Bill holding an air-pump and a football with Brady standing nest to him but other than that nothing whatsoever.
 

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