completely and totally false. We will never have a color blind society and it isn't because of my thought process.
The problem with you is group everything. If this person did it, then everyone can do it. You can never accept people have different experiences in life. Not everything is that cut and dry.
You keep talking about what you tell your kids.....well, there are thousands of parents telling their kids something completely different.
Ive lived it thru work for a decade.....so forgive me if I don't take your word about what's going on in these neighborhoods. If you take things on a case by case basis you might start understanding things better.
Pretty simple.....being born into a poor neighborhood with poor schools is a severe disadvantage for minorities and those who aren't minorities. Seeing drug dealers on the corner and dodging bullets is a different environment than those who can play in their from yards.
If the parents don't care and are assholes, chances are the kids will be as well. Think that pretty obvious.
So, because drug dealers are on corners, they cant get an education and graduate from school? And they are shot at daily and targeted with bullets, so they cant graduate from school? And all because they are a minority.
Also, since because they are a minority and have no privilege, their parents are also assholes who dont care. Makes no sense....
The fact is the poor are poor because they have too many Poverty Habits and too few Rich Habits. Poor parents teach their children the Poverty Habits and wealthy parents teach their children the Rich Habits. We don’t have a wealth gap in this country we have a parent gap. We don’t have income inequality, we have parent inequality.
72% of the wealthy know their credit score vs. 5% of the poor
6% of the wealthy play the lottery vs. 77% of the poor
80% of the wealthy are focused on at least one goal vs. 12% of the poor
62% of the wealthy floss their teeth every day vs. 16% of the poor
21% of the wealthy are overweight by 30 pounds or more vs. 66% of the poor
63% of the wealthy spend less than 1 hour per day on recreational Internet use vs. 26% of the poor
83% of the wealthy attend/attended back to school night for their kids vs. 13% of the poor
29% of the wealthy had one or more children who made the honor roll vs. 4% of the poor
63% of wealthy listen to audio books during their commute vs. 5% of the poor
67% of the wealthy watch 1 hour or less of T.V. per day vs 23% of the poor
9% of the wealthy watch reality T.V. shows vs. 78% of the poor
73% of the wealthy were taught the 80/20 rule vs. 5% of the poor (live off 80% save 20%)
79% of the wealthy network 5 hours or more per month vs. 16% of the poor
8% of the wealthy believe wealth comes from random good luck vs. 79% of the poor
79% of the wealthy believe they are responsible for their financial condition vs. 18% of the poor
Of course drug dealers on the corner and dodging bullets have an impact. I'm not saying they can't graduate, many do, the point is and has always been, it's certainly more difficult.
Im not sure why saying everyone doesn't have the same chance gets righties so riled up. Spend one minute in these communities and you'll see real quick.
You think those neighborhoods get the best, quality teachers to get them the best quality education? Of course not.
Im not sure why saying everyone doesn't have the same chance gets righties so riled up. Spend one minute in these communities and you'll see real quick.
You think those neighborhoods get the best, quality teachers to get them the best quality education? Of course not.
How come I can find hundreds of successful black people, who grew up in inner city poverty, and are now wealthy and educated?
What did they do that was any different than those who arent successful and living in the inner-city, or in jail, etc...
ANSWER: They had a goal, and worked hard to get there, and nothing was going to stop them. Its the same story when you read those success stories....over and over.
they didnt let where they were born stop them, they know they wanted a better life, and realized they can have it if they worked hard and set goals. Quite a few even talked about seeing gang members and drug dealers with wads of cash, nice cars and women... But knew that was an easy way out, and also not a correct path in life, as it was wrong, and you more than likely will end up dead or in jail. And they chose the path less traveled, and worked hard.... and it paid off.
So if they can do it... whats stopping someone else from doing it?
Thats right, themselves..... taking the easy way out, pointing fingers, and not taking responsibility for their own actions. Cause its easier that way.
How did these tons of success stories happen, with the same kind of education offered to the same inner city children?
What did they do that was any different than those who arent successful and living in the inner-city, or in jail, etc...
ANSWER: They had a goal, and worked hard to get there, and nothing was going to stop them. Its the same story when you read those success stories....over and over.
they didnt let where they were born stop them, they know they wanted a better life, and realized they can have it if they worked hard and set goals. Quite a few even talked about seeing gang members and drug dealers with wads of cash, nice cars and women... But knew that was an easy way out, and also not a correct path in life, as it was wrong, and you more than likely will end up dead or in jail. And they chose the path less traveled, and worked hard.... and it paid off.
So if they can do it... whats stopping someone else from doing it?
Thats right, themselves..... taking the easy way out, pointing fingers, and not taking responsibility for their own actions. Cause its easier that way.
How did these tons of success stories happen, with the same kind of education offered to the same inner city children?
As for the color-blind society, Morgan Freeman nails it. What's hilarious is Mike Wallace was not expecting the answer he got at all...and squirmed extremely uncomfortably in his chair:
The guy who knows how to get things at Shawshank is 100% right. Either we're all Americans or we're not. It's not difficult to see why some prefer to keep the latter going.
Regarding the hard work part...well, my grandparents came here in the 1950s when they were in their 30s. My dad and his brothers were 10-13 I think. Mom and her parents were about the same age. Mom's dad earned money by doing yardwork like lawn mowing...standing next to high school kids who were just looking for summer jobs to make money. Dad was 13 when he started caddying...he did it not to have summer pocket change, but to help the family since they barely made any money at first. They didn't speak English when they got here, nor did they know a soul in the States. Shockingly, they lived to tell about it...without going on welfare. I'm a little disappointed...my parents or grandparents never told me they got as far as they did because of white privilege. I always thought it had something to do with work ethic.
Oh, one last thing. California is getting ready to pass a $15/hr minimum wage law. Last night, I talked to one of my best friends who owns a commercial cleaning business...he has maybe 15 employees, tops. Guess what he told me he's going to have to do? Start doing most of the jobs himself (ie let go of some employees) and also probably raise prices on his customers on top of that. Sounds like a winning combo! Maybe the state needs to raise the MW even higher...that should fix everything!
The guy who knows how to get things at Shawshank is 100% right. Either we're all Americans or we're not. It's not difficult to see why some prefer to keep the latter going.
Regarding the hard work part...well, my grandparents came here in the 1950s when they were in their 30s. My dad and his brothers were 10-13 I think. Mom and her parents were about the same age. Mom's dad earned money by doing yardwork like lawn mowing...standing next to high school kids who were just looking for summer jobs to make money. Dad was 13 when he started caddying...he did it not to have summer pocket change, but to help the family since they barely made any money at first. They didn't speak English when they got here, nor did they know a soul in the States. Shockingly, they lived to tell about it...without going on welfare. I'm a little disappointed...my parents or grandparents never told me they got as far as they did because of white privilege. I always thought it had something to do with work ethic.
Oh, one last thing. California is getting ready to pass a $15/hr minimum wage law. Last night, I talked to one of my best friends who owns a commercial cleaning business...he has maybe 15 employees, tops. Guess what he told me he's going to have to do? Start doing most of the jobs himself (ie let go of some employees) and also probably raise prices on his customers on top of that. Sounds like a winning combo! Maybe the state needs to raise the MW even higher...that should fix everything!
Of course you can find exceptions. And you don't know that those people didn't have help along the way either. The kind of help the govt provides. The poor and welfare bashing doesn't help anything. Quite frankly, many of them need the help.
You dont think there are plenty of examples of minorities that didn't make it out but worked hard to do so? I've seen plenty
Yep most of them grew up on welfare and government assistance, but didnt want that for their children when they became adults, they saw a better life, and knew you had to work hard for it, so they did.
So, what privilege did those people that you know, that worked hard to get out of poverty have?
What Privilege did Ben Carson have?
Even better... what privilege did Obama have?
You think most people on welfare and kids on welfare don't want better? Mostly all of them do. Unfortunately conservatives will only point to the ones who try to fuck the system. It's like any large group.....some bad apples.
I don't know what each individual had or didn't have. I can only speak to what I've seen and that's people desperate for anything to better themselves......giving opportunity to the less fortunate is an obligation in my mind. You would be shocked to see how people can flourish if given a chance. Some don't even know they have a chance.
they are all given a chance... there are 100's of job training programs, schooling, free day care, free phones, free housing, free food, free money, scholarships, military opportunities, etc...
But, for some, its just too much work to try and better themselves. Would rather play the lottery and hope for a dream, then work to achieve it
Actually disagree a bit. I don't think we're divided enough yet.
I do sense (hopefully not a false sense) that more and more Americans are beginning to wake up and see that the entire dimocrap platform is smoke and mirror horseshit that is doomed to fail. Some want to keep it that way, but I just get the feeling a growing number are seeing this for what it really is. The Internet has become a big equalizer...it was a lot easier for the disgusting filth in the lamestream media to control the message they wanted to send when it was printed in ink. Today, a lot of news stories can be debunked within minutes. You know, like white privilege and systematic oppression on college campuses that kinda sorta didn't really happen.
you can do this for years and not make any progress, none, it doesn't matter
so if i'm reading correctly there is no increasing wealth gap in USA? Or there is , and its because of an increasing 'parent gap'? as more and more parents are becoming useless. Have you really thought this one out?
can't imagine anyone not agreeing that parenting plays a massive role in shaping a child. Our beliefs are largely dictated by what we see around us as children. With that said, North America, unfortunately, has seen a lot of manufacturing jobs head overseas, as Wall Street in an effort to increase EPS created globalization. Govt endorsed, of course. Add illegal immigration Collateral damage? of course- jobs LOST. and NOT just those on the lower end of the socio-economic scale. Hell we have people with post-secondary education as taxi drivers, nowadays. Times have chnaged. Need a paradigm shift in education; more tailored to need.
To blame the widening inequality of incomes solely on 'parenting'? don't buy it. Kinda like blaming the obese's inability to lose weight solely on character 'flaws'
no doubt some people do abuse govt aid. Of course.
[FONT=Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]know of a family from the east coast. Don't know them personally, know the sister very well. Mom is a stay at home wife, dad is a neurosurgeon. Religous family. Three kids. All academically gifted. The youngest finishes first year medical school in top 5% of her class. In the 2nd year has a mental breakdown; took the year off and is in counseling. Dad is beside himself, feels helpless...........poor parenting?[/FONT]
