Fired for what? What would the guy he reported an alleged crime to fire him for?
Paterno - "Why are you firing me?"
His Boss - "Because you told me of an alleged sexual assault and I failed to act on your allegations and when I didn't act, you should've told the cops I didn't act so I'm firing you."
"I wish I had done more" strikes you as an Alarming Red-Flag response?
I understand it implies he knew something and as many have cited: He was God within that Program/School/Community so to speculate he did not hear something would be stupid.
But "I wish I had done more" doesn't jump out at me as much as it seems to jump out at others.
Again....I am just trying to understand here, what is Truth and what is guys grabbing a few easy million dollar(s) settlements.
PLEASE do not confuse my questions with questioning Sandusky's Guilt. I don't. I genuinely believe he was a Sick and Depraved person.
Logic, Paterno was only concerned about his program and reputation. PSU paid over $100 million because of rumors? Please, they had the best and most expensive lawyers advising them.
The first thought that comes to mind when Penn State is mentioned is child rapers.
Congrats on those Pedo University degrees.
The first thought that comes to mind when Penn State is mentioned is child rapers.
Congrats on those Pedo University degrees.
You know, when Joe ( a dying old man ) said WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT, I wish I had done more , he was the only one stepping up to claim any responsibility ( even though he had none )
Proof that the initial reaction was to PRIASE him!
Penn State coach Paterno praised for acting appropriately in reporting Jerry Sandusky sex abuse suspicions http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in...no_praised_for_acting_app.html?mobRedir=false
Until the firing.......
don't you think its odd that this quickly became a Paterno PSU, story, and not a word about the second mile charity ,where Jerry spent all is time ???
Yep , it was the perfect storm of bullshit
and it continues right up until today
Major Legal Website Publishes Epic Take Down of Outrageous Media Coverage (Specifically Sara Ganim's) of Absurd Paterno Allegations John Ziegler's Response on State College Radio to the Steaming Pile of Horsecrap Which is the Media's Newest Paterno Allegation
Read the first 10 pages of this thread . I kept asking him that same question over and over.
Somehow according to Enfuego not going to be the police is not the same thing as a cover up.
Well, you're leaving some stuff out now. Come on Chop, I'm not ckid.
Paterno should've gone to the cops when he saw school administrators not handle the situation for sure. Always agreed with you on that point. But the alleged crime was reported to him, he in turn tells his boss what he was told and moved on with his life. Good or bad, that's not a cover up. You can slice it however you'd like. Using bad judgement doesn't mean you put forth effort to silence people to hide something.
A cover up would have been telling the red head to shut his mouth and never to talk about the situation again and the not reporting what he was told to anyone.
You can obviously see the difference.
Your co worker tells you she's been raped by another co worker. You tell your boss. Is that a cover up? You know the answer to that.
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Ray Blehar <rayblehar@xxxxx.com>
To: "rcook@post-gazette.com" <rcook@post-gazette.com>
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:06 PM
Subject: Sportswriters are out of their league on weighing validity of complaints</rcook@post-gazette.com></rayblehar@xxxxx.com>
Dear Ron,
I've read several columns by sportswriters who seem to uniformly state that we can never know the validity of the recent allegations.
Those conclusions are categorically incorrect.
The claims of victims are routinely evaluated and assessed by investigators and that's how charges are determined. Victims exaggerate what happened to them and they also down play their victimization. Seasoned investigators can separate fact from fiction.
In the case of the 1971 case you referenced, it categorically falls into the category of fiction. The story does not fit Sandusky's modus operandi as a molester who BEFRIENDED pre-teen boys and groomed them over a period of years.
Given the publicity surrounding the Sandusky case, it is unfathomable that ANYONE, let alone news reporters, could believe this allegation had any merit.
As a responsible journalist, you should have recognized this story as false immediately.
On Sunday, PSU President Barron told the public that there is NO EVIDENCE to support these allegations. As it turned out, $93M in settlements were paid without conducting the minimum amount of fact checking.
Similarly, the Board accepted the Freeh Report without review, then accepted $60M in fines.
If you notice, I've yet to mention Joe Paterno's name because NONE of this is even about Joe Paterno.
PSU Alumni are tired of being labeled as Paterno loyalists because WE DEMAND that our Trustees be responsible in decision making.
Finally, I am offended that at the end of the column, you paid LIP SERVICE to the victims and discuss their pain. I won't presume to know whether or not you have suffered abuse, however, it seems that like most other sportswriters you have very little knowledge of the LAW and how child protection is supposed to work in Pennsylvania.
Since August 2012, the PSU alumni have made it very clear about the failures of the state government to stop Sandusky in 1998 and in 2009, when there was ample evidence to do so.
We were told we were shifting blame.
Shifting blame? The people who shifted the blame happened to be the prosecutors in the Attorney General's office.
The individuals from DPW and CYS, who were paid with our tax dollars to protect children, were informed of dozens of signs of CSA (detailed in the Freeh Report) should have determined that Sandusky was a danger to children. Instead, they cleared him and informed Penn State that he did nothing wrong.
Sandusky was allowed to adopt six kids and he fostered many others. These actions were also approved by the same people who cleared Sandusky in 1998.
He abused some of those children too.
What should have been a case about how the system failed to protect kids from Sandusky became a story about how PSU officials dealt with a single complaint in 2001 -- that was IN FACT, reported outside the University to, AGAIN, individuals who were supposed to be protecting children.
Rather than putting the focus where it should be -- on fixing the system that failed these kids -- the focus has been on vilifying a handful of men who, under the law, did everything correctly.
It was not these men's job to determine what Sandusky was or to make sure he didn't access children. The abuse that continued after 2001 -- all of it off of the PSU campus -- could have been prevented if the individuals at The Second Mile, who were informed about Sandusky by Penn State, had done their job to not allow him to have unsupervised, one on one contact with children.
Don't feel sorry for the victims or pretend to know what pain they suffered. Not all victims respond in the same manner. Many move on from the abuse to lead very productive lives.
If you want to do something, then help us make sure that the NEXT kid doesn't get abused.
Write a column about how the system failed and how you (and other writers) were too focused on a coaching icon to bother to read the details of the Freeh Report and see the real failures in this scandal. Those failures continue as I write this.
Joe Paterno was man enough to admit that "with the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."
There's still time to do more, Ron.
Please help protect the next child from abuse.
Sincerely,
Ray Blehar
http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2016/05/email-to-ron-cook-sportswriters-are-out.html
From: Ray Blehar <rayblehar@xxxxx.com>
To: "rcook@post-gazette.com" <rcook@post-gazette.com>
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:06 PM
Subject: Sportswriters are out of their league on weighing validity of complaints</rcook@post-gazette.com></rayblehar@xxxxx.com>
Dear Ron,
I've read several columns by sportswriters who seem to uniformly state that we can never know the validity of the recent allegations.
Those conclusions are categorically incorrect.
The claims of victims are routinely evaluated and assessed by investigators and that's how charges are determined. Victims exaggerate what happened to them and they also down play their victimization. Seasoned investigators can separate fact from fiction.
In the case of the 1971 case you referenced, it categorically falls into the category of fiction. The story does not fit Sandusky's modus operandi as a molester who BEFRIENDED pre-teen boys and groomed them over a period of years.
Given the publicity surrounding the Sandusky case, it is unfathomable that ANYONE, let alone news reporters, could believe this allegation had any merit.
As a responsible journalist, you should have recognized this story as false immediately.
On Sunday, PSU President Barron told the public that there is NO EVIDENCE to support these allegations. As it turned out, $93M in settlements were paid without conducting the minimum amount of fact checking.
Similarly, the Board accepted the Freeh Report without review, then accepted $60M in fines.
If you notice, I've yet to mention Joe Paterno's name because NONE of this is even about Joe Paterno.
PSU Alumni are tired of being labeled as Paterno loyalists because WE DEMAND that our Trustees be responsible in decision making.
Finally, I am offended that at the end of the column, you paid LIP SERVICE to the victims and discuss their pain. I won't presume to know whether or not you have suffered abuse, however, it seems that like most other sportswriters you have very little knowledge of the LAW and how child protection is supposed to work in Pennsylvania.
Since August 2012, the PSU alumni have made it very clear about the failures of the state government to stop Sandusky in 1998 and in 2009, when there was ample evidence to do so.
We were told we were shifting blame.
Shifting blame? The people who shifted the blame happened to be the prosecutors in the Attorney General's office.
The individuals from DPW and CYS, who were paid with our tax dollars to protect children, were informed of dozens of signs of CSA (detailed in the Freeh Report) should have determined that Sandusky was a danger to children. Instead, they cleared him and informed Penn State that he did nothing wrong.
Sandusky was allowed to adopt six kids and he fostered many others. These actions were also approved by the same people who cleared Sandusky in 1998.
He abused some of those children too.
What should have been a case about how the system failed to protect kids from Sandusky became a story about how PSU officials dealt with a single complaint in 2001 -- that was IN FACT, reported outside the University to, AGAIN, individuals who were supposed to be protecting children.
Rather than putting the focus where it should be -- on fixing the system that failed these kids -- the focus has been on vilifying a handful of men who, under the law, did everything correctly.
It was not these men's job to determine what Sandusky was or to make sure he didn't access children. The abuse that continued after 2001 -- all of it off of the PSU campus -- could have been prevented if the individuals at The Second Mile, who were informed about Sandusky by Penn State, had done their job to not allow him to have unsupervised, one on one contact with children.
Don't feel sorry for the victims or pretend to know what pain they suffered. Not all victims respond in the same manner. Many move on from the abuse to lead very productive lives.
If you want to do something, then help us make sure that the NEXT kid doesn't get abused.
Write a column about how the system failed and how you (and other writers) were too focused on a coaching icon to bother to read the details of the Freeh Report and see the real failures in this scandal. Those failures continue as I write this.
Joe Paterno was man enough to admit that "with the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."
There's still time to do more, Ron.
Please help protect the next child from abuse.
Sincerely,
Ray Blehar
http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2016/05/email-to-ron-cook-sportswriters-are-out.html
Consider the sheer NUMBER of Problems within our society today that exist largely because of Media reporting in the manner that ray describes above.
Racial Shit, the Vilification of the accused of certain crimes, more racial shit...
Media's main goal today is to fan the flames of conflict.
To finally answer Texasfan's question of why PSU didn't put up much of a fight
Exactly HOW does Penn State do that? respond with: "nor all the claims may be true" basically responding with
"some guys may be lying about being abused"
You know what this "Media" of ours would have done with that, how they would have used that to proselytize from their High Horse and sensationalize for ratings, aired 1/2 hour specials filled with talking heads YELLING.
Vilifying Penn State and JoePa.
The Media is not concerned at all with Truth.
Walter Cronkite would have, LITERALLY, Gone POSTAL on our Modern Media.
and Justifiably so.
The Media is 1000% more Guilty of WRONG in this than Joe Paterno could possibly be.
Fan The Flames of War and Hatred for Ratings you Pigs. You Lower than Low Swine. Sell your Souls for $$$$$.
Exactly like some of those who pocketed MILLIONS did when they lied about being abused by Sandusky
(Again...by no means am I saying that ALL Claims were lies.)
Here's Jerry Sandusky's resignation letter from The Second Mile. The 1 success story he mentions is Allan Myers (Victim #2) & photo is from Myers' wedding!
This is BEFORE McQueary has come forward & it sure doesn't seem consistent with Allan having been raped ( cough cough ) almost 10 years earlier as a 14 year old in the shower at PSU! And, Mr. Myers has always denied that nothing sexual had ever happened between him and Sandusky, but then realized, thanks to attorney Andrew Shubin, that without even testifying (since he would perjure himself and the prosecution would not even have had a case) he learned that he could pocket millions from PSU
This is BEFORE McQueary has come forward & it sure doesn't seem consistent with Allan having been raped ( cough cough ) almost 10 years earlier as a 14 year old in the shower at PSU! And, Mr. Myers has always denied that nothing sexual had ever happened between him and Sandusky, but then realized, thanks to attorney Andrew Shubin, that without even testifying (since he would perjure himself and the prosecution would not even have had a case) he learned that he could pocket millions from PSU
