Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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Should the Joe Paterno Statue Come Down in Happy Valley?

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Knew when? He knew in 2001.


I'm just saying he knew what Sandusky was doing, or at least was hearing stuff about the guy. Paterno knew at the very least in the 90"s. Paterno knew and allowed it to continue, he's as big a scumbag as Sandusky.
 

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I'm just saying he knew what Sandusky was doing, or at least was hearing stuff about the guy. Paterno knew at the very least in the 90"s. Paterno knew and allowed it to continue, he's as big a scumbag as Sandusky.

He knew in 2001 and reported it. We all know that already.
 

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What the hell difference does it make when Paterno knew, whether it was 15 years ago or 40 years? Does 15 years ago make it any better?
 

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What the hell difference does it make when Paterno knew, whether it was 15 years ago or 40 years? Does 15 years ago make it any better?

It makes a big difference.

It makes a difference because we all know he knew in 2001 and reported it to his boss.

Had he known back in 1976 (I don't believe this is true) and didn't say anything to anyone for 25 years, he deserves everything he's gotten.
 

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You're misleading the argument. You can't be convicted if you aren't even charged with a crime. Prosecuting attorneys found insufficient evidence to charge him with anything.

You can play attorney and say he deserved to be on trial but I'll take the word of a real life attorney who actually practices law over the opinion of some anonymous guy named Vitterd who thinks he's a lawyer on some random gambling forum.

How bout we just take Joes own words" in hindsight I wish I had done more". That is very telling.......Joe knew and he covered it up......if he didn't die, we don't know what would have happened.

Joe was everything at PSU, a non stop asshole to staff, bullying teachers, a dictator......in the end, his program and his own legacy were more important than kids being protected.

he had no" boss" none at all. He was the boss.
 

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How bout we just take Joes on words" in hindsight I wish I had done more". That is very telling.......Joe knew and he covered it up......if he didn't die, we don't know what would have happened.

Joe was everything at PSU, a non stop asshole to staff, bullying teachers, a dictator......in the end, his program and his own legacy was more important than kids being protected.

God this thread brings back bad memories.

If you know something happens at work and you tell your supervisor it happened is that a cover up? He should've done more but he didn't cover anything up.
 

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God this thread brings back bad memories.

If you know something happens at work and you tell your supervisor it happened is that a cover up? He should've done more but he didn't cover anything up.

He wasn't an employee. These same " bosses" asked him to step down years before and he said no. Try that at your office. He should have went to the police.
 

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It makes a big difference.

It makes a difference because we all know he knew in 2001 and reported it to his boss.

Had he known back in 1976 (I don't believe this is true) and didn't say anything to anyone for 25 years, he deserves everything he's gotten.

Like I said, he knew well before 2001.
 

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Football, his job and reputation were more important to Paterno than those kids, that's all I need to know about what kind of person he is.
 

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He wasn't an employee. These same " bosses" asked him to step down years before and he said no. Try that at your office. He should have went to the police.

Well I agree he should've gone to the police but he didn't. That doesn't mean it was a cover up.
 

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Well I agree he should've gone to the police but he didn't. That doesn't mean it was a cover up.

Then what was it? At the very least it was complete negligent and and an offense that should get him fired. For a guy that held those kids to a high standard......he certainly didn't hold himself to the same standard.
 

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Then what was it? At the very least it was complete negligent and and an offense that should get him fired. For a guy that held those kids to a high standard......he certainly didn't hold himself to the same standard.

What would they have fired him for? He reported an alleged crime to them. They are implicating themselves in non action by firing him.
 

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What would they have fired him for? He reported an alleged crime to them. They are implicating themselves in non action by firing him.

In a normal situation, for a coach to do that, he would deserved to be fired......I'm saying the offense is fire able for sure.......now, the others involved in this cover up wouldn't fire him.....I'm saying the inaction of Paterno is something a coach should be fired for.
 

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I look at it this way. These were serious allegations involving sexual abuse of kids. If he did as he stated, and reported it, did he follow-up on it after still seeing Sandusky around? It wasn't like he saw Sandusky stealing office supplies, this is something that he should have followed up on.

Paterno, I guarantee, had heard about the allegations regarding Sandusky, or at the very least knew something wasn't right. In my opinion, just saying something wasn't enough. I don't have any reason to believe a cover-up happened, my concern is that he didn't do enough when he still saw Sandusky was allowed the campus and involved with the kids.

If that was Paterno's kid, would he have just left it at reporting it?
 

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It makes a big difference.

It makes a difference because we all know he knew in 2001 and reported it to his boss.

Had he known back in 1976 (I don't believe this is true) and didn't say anything to anyone for 25 years, he deserves everything he's gotten.
No, it doesn't make a difference. It looks worse, but guilty is guilty in the eyes of the law, whether it be 15 years or 50 years.
 

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So to reduce this down to plain English and as few words as possible:

Joe Paterno, a guy to whom Penn State Football was his entire Identity pretty much (all else he at least "publicly was" emanated from Penn State Football)

Voluntarily and "of sound mind and body" Elected to place at risk:


  • The Safety and Well Being of Innocent Children
  • Penn State Football
  • Penn State University


  • His Reputation, that meant so so much to him
  • The Sanity and Peace of his Family and Friends
  • His LEGACY


In exchange for what gain?

Because he fears if he fires Sandusky "why" will get found out and cause damage to the program?

Because he doesn't believe what he is hearing about Sandusky?



Do you guys really believe sincerely in your hearts that Joe Paterno elected to turn his back on Kids? Allow Sandusky to......WHEN HE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.....continue?



We've got such a Low Threshold of "proof" here, needed to accomplish getting a Payout from Penn State that....again....average payout was THREE MILLION DOLLARS so we are talking about Big Money here.

Just for saying that Sandusky did bad stuff to you.



Which seems more plausible?


I don't doubt Sandusky was up to some strange bad very inappropriate stuff and deserves punishment, I am NOT defending that monster in the least here just asking which seems more plausible...

that people seized a once in a lifetime chance at a big payday that would change their lives forever or

The Most Revered and (eventual) all-time winningest football coach alive

Voluntarily and "of sound mind and body" Elected to place at risk:


  • The Safety and Well Being of Innocent Children
  • Penn State Football
  • Penn State University


  • His Reputation, that meant so so much to him
  • The Sanity and Peace of his Family and Friends
  • His LEGACY


  • His entire Life.

To protect Jerry Sandusky. A guy it is well known that he did not even particularly like?



which of those seems more plausible?
 

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