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Only way to end "their pain". Yet they create unimaginable pain for their family and loved ones who have to live with it because they don't choose the easy way out. I mean don't get me wrong there are grey areas. People truly suffering from physical illnesses, PTSD, depression, etc have serious illnesses, but pushing that pain off to your family is selfish. Seen it many times. Destroys families.

What about the people who commit suicide who don't have family or friends?
 

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You are allowed to judge people who make decisions.
Why do it? You haven't a clue as to what he was going through and what his state of mind was but yet you are confident enough to call him a coward. calling someone a coward right after he ended his like is tasteless at best. I am sure there's a better word but I am trying to be civil.
 

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I've had 2 really good friends commit suicide. One of them was a childhood friend I grew up with. The last thing I would have thought of when I heard the news was "wow what a coward." The first thing I thought of was damn I wish I would have known he was suffering that bad to feel the need to take his own life. To this day I would never think of him as a coward. He was far from a coward.
 

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Unfortunately, his family will probably suffer for decades.
 

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His dad died in a freak car accident just 2 blocks from home a year before. He was really close to his dad and never got over it. Severe alcoholic. Brawler. Not a coward. Shot himself in the head.
 

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His dad died in a freak car accident just 2 blocks from home a year before. He was really close to his dad and never got over it. Severe alcoholic. Brawler. Not a coward. Shot himself in the head.

It's tough to imagine what he was feeling while he was contemplating actually pulling the trigger and ending it though.
 

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It's tough to imagine what he was feeling while he was contemplating actually pulling the trigger and ending it though.

Yeah, I know. He was obviously suffering and I guess felt that was the only way to end his pain.
 

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Based on your religious background I would have expected you to be on the side that Suicide is wrong.

It's a guaranteed trip to hell in the bible right?
Actually, the Bible says the exact opposite. It says that neither death nor life nor anything in the past, present, or future can separate the believer from the love of Christ.
 

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Robin Williams seemed to be a very caring person, besides being such a great comic and actor. I hope he has found peace and hope his family does too! And I am sure God Will bless him too!
 

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I work in the film industry and Ive worked a project he was in, and I was on a set today and ran into countless who had worked with him thru one of his various projects around town, lots of upset people but one girl, a girl I know decently well told me something that just made me pause and think... that she was in awe of Robin Williams for giving that disease 30+ more years than she wants to give it. Known her for years, we're not best friends or anything but in our line of work it isnt uncommon for me to spend 16+ hr days with her weeks on end and we're social, see her regularly outside of work, we have friends in common, never had a clue she had battled depression, she's always really upbeat and chatty. Got me thinking, few of us will ever know how bad it was in his head or how bad it can get in anyones head, last thing we're equipped to do is judge it. Even those who battle depression can't know how bad it is for somebody else, they can only speak for themselves. Family, love, are some of the strongest forces people have in their lives, and we have a natural instinct to self preserve, to hit a place where your mind overrides all that, I wouldn't want to know that pain...maybe it's selfish to ask somebody to live that way, I don't know. I feel for all those he left behind and all they will go through but I feel for him and hope that whatever lies beyond if anything, that it's a place he finds his peace. As hippy dippy as that all sounds.
 

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What about the people who commit suicide who don't have family or friends?

That's definitely the grey area. Not gonna give the reasons because I have some crazy stalkers here that would never let me forget saying it, but I have a close understanding of depression and suicide. And the one thing I know is leaving your family to suffer like that is selfish and cowardly. Some never recover, kids are hurt the worse and many grow up mentally ill. It's a brutal thing to put on your family. And like most social things there are countless variations. Most of my knowledge comes from teens and addicts. You have a different perspective on the PTSD side (I'm guessing), so it's all different. I come from a Christian family and suicide was always a sin and the most selfish act you can do. So adding it all up, I just can't feel for people who give up. There's always someone out there fighting much worse problems than you.
 

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That's definitely the grey area. Not gonna give the reasons because I have some crazy stalkers here that would never let me forget saying it, but I have a close understanding of depression and suicide. And the one thing I know is leaving your family to suffer like that is selfish and cowardly. Some never recover, kids are hurt the worse and many grow up mentally ill. It's a brutal thing to put on your family. And like most social things there are countless variations. Most of my knowledge comes from teens and addicts. You have a different perspective on the PTSD side (I'm guessing), so it's all different. I come from a Christian family and suicide was always a sin and the most selfish act you can do. So adding it all up, I just can't feel for people who give up. There's always someone out there fighting much worse problems than you.

You know I think you're the biggest fucking douche on the entire forum. I've called you a cancer to this board and genuinely think you are but family related stuff, with me at least, is off limits. At the end of the day, this is a forum with a bunch of anonymous dudes that like to discuss sports and gambling but for me at least, discussing family issues and actually bashing a poster for deep-rooted family problems is a real low blow.
 

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Ive been working in a psych hospital for 15 years. When I read some of these post, I just shake my head. Robin was bipolar. This I a brain disease. 1 in 10 patients commit suicide. I work in a 145 bed hospital. we don't have enough beds or rooms. we have a waiting list to get admitted. Some of you guys must have a 6th grade education to say he was selfish. He went for help many times. A person with a brain disease can only take so much. he figured he tried everything. Please read up on the disease before making absurd comments. I work in the pharmacy and you have no idea what I see. ITS A DISEASE AND NOT A SELFISH ACT
 

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Ive been working in a psych hospital for 15 years. When I read some of these post, I just shake my head. Robin was bipolar. This I a brain disease. 1 in 10 patients commit suicide. I work in a 145 bed hospital. we don't have enough beds or rooms. we have a waiting list to get admitted. Some of you guys must have a 6th grade education to say he was selfish. He went for help many times. A person with a brain disease can only take so much. he figured he tried everything. Please read up on the disease before making absurd comments. I work in the pharmacy and you have no idea what I see. ITS A DISEASE AND NOT A SELFISH ACT

Was he ever diagnosed with bipolar disorder? If so, I never knew that.
 

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That's definitely the grey area. Not gonna give the reasons because I have some crazy stalkers here that would never let me forget saying it, but I have a close understanding of depression and suicide. And the one thing I know is leaving your family to suffer like that is selfish and cowardly. Some never recover, kids are hurt the worse and many grow up mentally ill. It's a brutal thing to put on your family. And like most social things there are countless variations. Most of my knowledge comes from teens and addicts. You have a different perspective on the PTSD side (I'm guessing), so it's all different. I come from a Christian family and suicide was always a sin and the most selfish act you can do. So adding it all up, I just can't feel for people who give up. There's always someone out there fighting much worse problems than you.

Me personally? Not PTSD. Let's say I have a very good understanding of depression/cocaine addiction. Much like what Robin suffered from I would guess. I can relate as much as one can without coming across that I know exactly what he was going through because I don't. Each person and their demons (which a lot of people have) are different. Without making light of it "cocaine is a helluva drug". I'm not gonna air all my business out on the internet, but many would probably be shocked at what I've done and seen. Anyway, my whole point was that I don't feel we should be so quick to judge and label a person until you have walked in their shoes. I don't think RW was a coward. I think he let something get the best of him and it prevailed.
 

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Ive been working in a psych hospital for 15 years. When I read some of these post, I just shake my head. Robin was bipolar. This I a brain disease. 1 in 10 patients commit suicide. I work in a 145 bed hospital. we don't have enough beds or rooms. we have a waiting list to get admitted. Some of you guys must have a 6th grade education to say he was selfish. He went for help many times. A person with a brain disease can only take so much. he figured he tried everything. Please read up on the disease before making absurd comments. I work in the pharmacy and you have no idea what I see. ITS A DISEASE AND NOT A SELFISH ACT

This is a very good post gijoe. It is a brain disease. Unless you have actually had a serious cocaine addiction (or any hardcore drug) you truly don't know what it's like. You can only assume you know. The chemical imbalance it causes prevents you from thinking clearly and rationally at times. I'm not here to come across like I'm a know it all about drugs and what they can do to you and your brain, but I have a pretty damn good understanding of it because I've lived it.
 

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