Take me as a skeptic if you choose, but...
Even taking your stated record at face value,
The key of "rigging" in your approach just seems like a paranoid post-description of a correlation you derived. The linesmakers for NBA totals are not like stock specialists in NYC or CHI. There isn't enough $ in it, for one thing.
I'm sure you are a smart guy. I am not sure you used any sophisticated algebra or calculus. I suspect you have a reasonably good computer and did some correlation studies.
Caution to anyone, yourself included, who does a standard deviation analysis of your "result". Where backfitting is concerned, those results have to be HEAVILY discounted, as they don't show the results for all possible correlations which proved random.
Also, you have said nothing to indicate you may start a service in the near future, but you certainly have all the hype asterisks and adjectives to sound like one who is laying the groundwork.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt for now,
Good luck.
Dolphin
Even taking your stated record at face value,
The key of "rigging" in your approach just seems like a paranoid post-description of a correlation you derived. The linesmakers for NBA totals are not like stock specialists in NYC or CHI. There isn't enough $ in it, for one thing.
I'm sure you are a smart guy. I am not sure you used any sophisticated algebra or calculus. I suspect you have a reasonably good computer and did some correlation studies.
Caution to anyone, yourself included, who does a standard deviation analysis of your "result". Where backfitting is concerned, those results have to be HEAVILY discounted, as they don't show the results for all possible correlations which proved random.
Also, you have said nothing to indicate you may start a service in the near future, but you certainly have all the hype asterisks and adjectives to sound like one who is laying the groundwork.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt for now,
Good luck.
Dolphin
Question
Riggs, been reading this over and I still do not understand what the hell these negative and positive cycles are. I can make the picks based on if the day is positive/negative, but what do you mean by positive and negative? Why do you follow this cycle?
An explanation would be appreciated.
Riggs, been reading this over and I still do not understand what the hell these negative and positive cycles are. I can make the picks based on if the day is positive/negative, but what do you mean by positive and negative? Why do you follow this cycle?
An explanation would be appreciated.
Dolphin -
I have only one word for you. 'Microsoft!' Go ahead and sit back and warn EVERYONE of my "tout' tactics all you want but, in the mean time.....I'm making a Sh*t load of money EVERYDAY and you will continue to have a belly ache because of it. Here's a Rolle aid for you're ENLIGHTENING post! Thanks for saving everyone from me.
:lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG:
RIGGS.
I have only one word for you. 'Microsoft!' Go ahead and sit back and warn EVERYONE of my "tout' tactics all you want but, in the mean time.....I'm making a Sh*t load of money EVERYDAY and you will continue to have a belly ache because of it. Here's a Rolle aid for you're ENLIGHTENING post! Thanks for saving everyone from me.
:lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG: :lolBIG:
RIGGS.
There Still Seems To Be Some Confusion On The Terms "negative" And "positive". These Cycles (neg. Or Pos.) Come Every 5 Days As You Can Obviously See In Post #37. How Do You Determine When It's A New Cycle You Ask? By Just Simply Looking At The Record On The 6th Day! If You Don't Have The Balls To Play Out The 6th Day, Big Deal! Wait For The 6th Day And Look At The Record For That (first) Day Of The New Cycle. If It's 6-2 Or 5-3 And The Lines Are Going In The Opposite Way Then The Day Before, You Now Now That A New Cycle (neg Or Pos) Has Taken Place. I Really Don't Know Any Other Way To Put It. If There Is An English Major Out There That Understands This Formula, Please Help Me Out Here!
Riggs.
Riggs.
Well, I said I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but your response justifies my concern.
Curious how nearly all posters interacting with your post are early newbies, but that aside...
You could be a manic-depressive genius in an inspired manic phase, but...
comparing your emerging place in sports betting history to the early days of Microsoft has all the earmarks of either delusions of grandeur or marketing hype.
Repeated boastings of winnings and describing me as a loser if I don't jump on board and using sarcasm in words and imagery - this smacks of instability, narcissism and intended manipulation.
Furthermore, the fact that you couldn't respond to any of the material issues I raised indicates arrogance and/or defensiveness...
Hmmm....
Curious how nearly all posters interacting with your post are early newbies, but that aside...
You could be a manic-depressive genius in an inspired manic phase, but...
comparing your emerging place in sports betting history to the early days of Microsoft has all the earmarks of either delusions of grandeur or marketing hype.
Repeated boastings of winnings and describing me as a loser if I don't jump on board and using sarcasm in words and imagery - this smacks of instability, narcissism and intended manipulation.
Furthermore, the fact that you couldn't respond to any of the material issues I raised indicates arrogance and/or defensiveness...
Hmmm....
I said that the first time...that there was no evidence of this. Of course if his angle does reasonably well for a short period and then he draws a line in the sand saying there are reasons mid-March on could be tricky, but "didn't we all have fun and make $" and implicitly aren't we all grateful to him...starting a baseball service with promises of other great calculus angles of the "rigged" bookies' strategies...that would not be a shock.
In any event, he needn't be on to something, and his verbal style doesn't reflect the calm of a prudent advisor or a cautious nerd genius. I'll stick to the range of my psychological guesses and the likelihoods of either the "results" or the methodology by which they were obtained.
I have no history of being an attack dog in these forums. I'll comfortably change my perspective over time if it seems warranted.
I would say this...Rigged's response(s) to me will reflect solely on him.
In any event, he needn't be on to something, and his verbal style doesn't reflect the calm of a prudent advisor or a cautious nerd genius. I'll stick to the range of my psychological guesses and the likelihoods of either the "results" or the methodology by which they were obtained.
I have no history of being an attack dog in these forums. I'll comfortably change my perspective over time if it seems warranted.
I would say this...Rigged's response(s) to me will reflect solely on him.
Don't know why this seems so difficult. I read his posts this morning, took a look at the scoring averages, did the quick calculations, determined it was a negative cycle, and knew the first to games were unders and the last was an over. Done.
If this system is what he says it is I will gladly use it to my advantage. And if so, I cannot thank Riggs enough for posting. So what if he is a little brash. If he's doing as well as he says, he's probably on cloud nine. i will be too.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS SYSTEM AND YOU DON'T LIKE HIS ATTITUDE THEN DON'T GO NEAR HIS THREADS.
I've just never understood the mentality of some people in these forums. That's why I seldom post. I refuse to be a part of it.
What I do understand is why people leave these forums. There is always someone eager to bash and critisize just to feed thier own ego. Over the years I have seen numerous talented people come and go.
I hope I didn't mispell anything.
If this system is what he says it is I will gladly use it to my advantage. And if so, I cannot thank Riggs enough for posting. So what if he is a little brash. If he's doing as well as he says, he's probably on cloud nine. i will be too.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS SYSTEM AND YOU DON'T LIKE HIS ATTITUDE THEN DON'T GO NEAR HIS THREADS.
I've just never understood the mentality of some people in these forums. That's why I seldom post. I refuse to be a part of it.
What I do understand is why people leave these forums. There is always someone eager to bash and critisize just to feed thier own ego. Over the years I have seen numerous talented people come and go.
I hope I didn't mispell anything.
Let's see...
I have no history of "bashing".
I asked questions...got no response to these.
My questions could lead to greater enlightenment on Riggs' part or our part.
You assume I'm rooting against him and any followers. I benefit too much from this forum to root against anyone. Reducing hype and focusing on good methodology helps people win more or at least lose less. When you join hype you tend to overbet, for one thing.
Of course it's reader/follower beware and we're all adults and take our chances.
I welcome skepticism/devil's advocate/different thoughts when I tell people my betting approaches, but some people don't...
Dolphin
I have no history of "bashing".
I asked questions...got no response to these.
My questions could lead to greater enlightenment on Riggs' part or our part.
You assume I'm rooting against him and any followers. I benefit too much from this forum to root against anyone. Reducing hype and focusing on good methodology helps people win more or at least lose less. When you join hype you tend to overbet, for one thing.
Of course it's reader/follower beware and we're all adults and take our chances.
I welcome skepticism/devil's advocate/different thoughts when I tell people my betting approaches, but some people don't...
Dolphin
RIGGS, so even days where there might be no games taking place that day still counts towards 1 of the 5 days in that particular cycle (positive or negative)?? That's all I'm curious about, the rest looks and sounds pretty darn good actually. You're a borderline genius in my book if this thing works out like you say it has been and will continue to. Even if it doesn't for some reason or another, you've got the interest and buzz from mostly everyone in here and you're actually putting our brains to work. The way I see it is something that does that can't help but be a good thing, no matter how it ends up. I know I speak for myself and a lot of other people in here when I say thank you for at least sharing this system and concept with us and allowing us to be and feel a part of the process. You didn't have to and I appreciate the fact that you did. And we didn't even have to pay for it :lolBIG: Good luck to everyone.
~DaOnEaNdOnLy777~
~DaOnEaNdOnLy777~
OK, thx for sharing this breakthrough if I might say, I have 2 questions.
If we count the all star break days in the system, would that mean that Thursday is the last negative day, then on friday it will switch over to positive?
Also, this is an easy question for anyone. Where is a good place to get nba stats like the team scoring averages at home and on the road? *feels his noobness*
Duder
If we count the all star break days in the system, would that mean that Thursday is the last negative day, then on friday it will switch over to positive?
Also, this is an easy question for anyone. Where is a good place to get nba stats like the team scoring averages at home and on the road? *feels his noobness*
Duder
Leafsfan1967 -
I don't know why they choose to do this. Are you serious? How could I possibly know that? It's obvious they do it in cycles is so they can keep you at bey. Meaning, if you somehow could come up with this like I did, you would have lost alot of money on the cycle changes. They need to change it up from time to time. Did you really need me to tell you that? You're scaring me Leaf'sfan.
RIGGS.
I don't know why they choose to do this. Are you serious? How could I possibly know that? It's obvious they do it in cycles is so they can keep you at bey. Meaning, if you somehow could come up with this like I did, you would have lost alot of money on the cycle changes. They need to change it up from time to time. Did you really need me to tell you that? You're scaring me Leaf'sfan.
RIGGS.
Riggs did you not write this backwards if im reading you right?THE MIGHTY RIGGS said:KWO -
Let's see if I can steer you in the right direction here. First off, let's start off from the beginning because I have no Idea what you actually know of my formula okay?
Let's keep it relevant and start with tonights games. The sixers avg. 96 on the road and the Knicks avg. 98 at home, so together they avg. 194, with me? Stardust casino opened the total at 201. If this was a possitive week you would follow the line. In other words, the 201(line) is greater than the avg. of the two so you would take the over but, we are instead in a NEGATIVE week, so we would NOT follow the line, we would instead do the opposite. Conclution? Take the under 201. See how this works?
Let's do another, The Kings avg. 100 on the road and the Mav's avg. 104 at home for a combine avg. of 204 right? The Stardust opened at 212. Since we are currently in a NEGATIVE week we would take the under in this game. Why? Because we go the OPPOSITE of the line when we are in a negative week. In a POSSITIVE week we would FOLLOW the line, understand?
As to you're other question, what day of the week are we in? That's a good question. The answer is, we shall see. Theoretically we are in the second day of the NEGATIVE week but, is Vegas trying to trick me? You see, before the all-star break, we were only on the third day of a POSSITIVE week. In other words, Vegas changes or turns the cycle( poss/neg) every 5 days. So what happened to our other 2 days of possitive? See where I'm going with this? They did a quick turn on us out of the break but, I was ready, when I saw the totals for tuesday the 22nd, I knew the turn was coming. What do you mean you say.....When it's time for a cycle change, you will see the it in your capping. The stats almost never fail you on that 6th day cycle change.
Bottom line is, we are in unfamiliar terratory here. Heres why.....The last day B-4 the break was Thursday the 17th. Vegas could be counting the missing days(Layoff) as if normal. EXAMPLE: Before the break, we were in the midts of the 3rd day of a possitive week right? Well they might have counted the 18th and 19th as the rest of that poo. cycle. Meaning, today would be the last day of the negative cycle. Let me review, if in fact that is the case, the negative cycle began on Sunday the 20th thru the 24th(5 days today).
The alternative? Very simple. We then would be in the 3rd day(today) of a negative week. Let me give you a calender with dates and results of the past 3 weeks or so. It will make easier fo backtesting and future understanding of cycle turns.
NEGATIVE CYCLE (23-11-0 67.6%)
MONDAY 1/31/05 3-3-0 50.0%
TUESDAY 2/01/05 3-6-0 33.3%
WEDSDAY 2/02/05 6-1-0 85.7%
THURSDAY2/03/05 3-0-0 100%
FRIDAY 2/04/05 8-1-0 88.9% (Last 3: 17-2-0 89.5%)
TURNED POSSITIVE (31-7-0 81.6%)
SATURDAY 2/05/05 9-1-0 90.0%
SUNDAY 2/06/05 4-0-0 100% (Last 5: 30-3-0 90.9%)
MONDAY 2/07/05 4-1-0 80.0%
TUESDAY 2/08/05 7-2-0 77.8%
WEDSDAY 2/09/05 7-3-0 70.0% (Last 3: 18-6-0 75.0%
TURNED NEGATIVE (20-12-0 62.5%)
THURSDAY 2/10/05 2-1-0 66.7%
FRIDAY 2/11/05 6-5-0 54.5%
SATURDAY 2/12/05 2-1-0 66.7%
SUNDAY 2/13/05 8-2-0 80.0%
MONDAY 2/14/05 2-3-0 40.0% (Last 3: 12-7-0 63.2%)
TURNED POSSITIVE (13-7-0 65.0%)
TUESDAY 2/15/05 5-2-0 65.0%
WEDSDAY 2/16/05 6-5-0 54.5%
THURSDAY 2/17/05 2-0-0 100% (Last 5: 23-12-0 62.2%)
ALL-STAR WEEK
TURNED NEGATIVE ( 12-7-0 63.2% SO FAR....)
TUESDAY 2/22/05 5-3-0 62.5%
WEDSDAY 2/23/05 7-4-0 63.6%
Now in just that 20 day span, it was 99-44-0 for 69.2%!!!!! And only two (2) losing nights! Also notice, not even one (1) push! I dare anyone to challenge my formula. For all those A-HOLES, I just shared my best kept secret with all of you, so stop with the "Tout" bullsh*t! Now all of you can kill you're books! This should also put to rest the few MORONS saying and accusing me of being a farce.
THE MIGHTY RIGGS!
If the knicks and 76ers avg 194 and the total is 201, if you follow the line you would bet under not over in a positive week because you would be following the line as you say. and in a negitive week you would take the over going against the trend.
