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This does not matter one bit. He hit her and got knocked unconscious. Don't play word games like ACE, your starting to sound like him defending Rice.

Pond scum is better than ray rice. He is a big time pussy. Hits a girl lol.

I like how he just drags her out, no checking to see if she's ok, just yank her out of the old elevator and and wait for help.

Its so matter of fact on his part, so nonchalant. He must be used to doing this for sure.

I'm not defending him. I'm just saying he was already punished for knocking his fiancee out. Not sure why this video changes things other than the NFL trying to protect their own ass because of public pressure. And the second thing was I thought the video was far less severe than I imagined. Two drunk people, one stupid decision, his fiancee didn't press any charges and has admitted that it was a bad situation by both of them.

I just don't get how he can be punished twice for someone he already admitted to doing. I mean I get why he can, because the Goodell is protecting his own ass, but I wonder what people think happens when someone gets knocked out. Like what did you imagine happened in the elevator?
 

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Vit,

You flaming leftists say some really stupid shit. In the history of this country of now 350+ million people there have been a grand total of 4 abortion doctors killed, and
you act like it's even a meaningful statistic.

Given that there are roughly 2,000 abortion providers in the US, and abortion has been legal for 40+ years, this is the % of abortion doctors that have been killed:

.00005

I'm not even addressing whether they were killed by so-called "right wing white guys."

:ohno:^<<^

Clearly you missed the entire point of the stupidity of playing the "if" game. You should be addressing the guy I was responding to.
 

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This does not matter one bit. He hit her and got knocked unconscious. Don't play word games like ACE, your starting to sound like him defending Rice.

Pond scum is better than ray rice. He is a big time pussy. Hits a girl lol.

I like how he just drags her out, no checking to see if she's ok, just yank her out of the old elevator and and wait for help.

Its so matter of fact on his part, so nonchalant. He must be used to doing this for sure.

Clearly not the first time he's done that.
 
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Clearly you missed the entire point of the stupidity of playing the "if" game. You should be addressing the guy I was responding to.

I didn't miss the point. I'm addressing the fact that it's not the first time, nor the second that you've thrown out the "abortion doctor killers" slur as a not so subtle slam against "right-wingers."
 

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I didn't miss the point. I'm addressing the fact that it's not the first time, nor the second that you've thrown out the "abortion doctor killers" slur as a not so subtle slam against "right-wingers."

Next time I will use anti govt white people in waco texas or the guy that blew up the federal building in okl city or the right wing white serial killers like ted bundy and wayne gacy.

Point is there is no sense in playing the " if so and so was white or so and so was black" game.
 

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Nah, beating someone senseless requires numerous punches and a beatdown. You can look at someones face and realize when they were beaten senseless. This was just a punch.

Let me get this straight:

She got knocked unconscious but she did not get "beat senseless?"

Do you not know what unconscious means?
 

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Let me get this straight:

She got knocked unconscious but she did not get "beat senseless?"

Do you not know what unconscious means?

Yes she got knocked out with one punch. She was not beaten senseless. There's multiple context for the phrase "beaten senseless". You're obvious going to continue with senseless being knocked out. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that.
 

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That UFC fighter beat his porn gf senseless. Now that's a beating. This was a knock punch reaction.
 

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Yes she got knocked out with one punch. She was not beaten senseless. There's multiple context for the phrase "beaten senseless". You're obvious going to continue with senseless being knocked out. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that.

It was pretty brutal. I compare it to the knockout I gave rolltide in the penn state thread this morning.
 

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Well 2 games wasn't enough that's for sure. The video is shocking and worse than the public expected.
 

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Well 2 games wasn't enough that's for sure. The video is shocking and worse than the public expected.

How is it worse than what people expected? What do people expect to see when someone gets knocked out? I thought it was much less severe than I imagined.
 

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Yes she got knocked out with one punch. She was not beaten senseless. There's multiple context for the phrase "beaten senseless". You're obvious going to continue with senseless being knocked out. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that.

You realize senseless is pretty much a synonym for unconscious right?

She was knocked unconscious by Ray rice. Whether it was one punch, two punches or ten punches, Ray rice knocked her to the state that she was unconscious, i.e., she was without her senses. The Rice punch rendered her senseless. How is that even remotely arguable?
 

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so i ask you this, is it ok for women to hit men?

When are you guys gonna get a clue and figure this out? It doesn't matter what she did to Ray Rice. It's not acceptable for a grown ass man to ever lay his hand on a woman. Period, dot, end of story.
 

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You realize senseless is pretty much a synonym for unconscious right?

She was knocked unconscious by Ray rice. Whether it was one punch, two punches or ten punches, Ray rice knocked her to the state that she was unconscious, i.e., she was without her senses. The Rice punch rendered her senseless. How is that even remotely arguable?

You're just playing a game of semantics. I'm saying someone like War machine beat his gf senseless. Ray rice knocked his gf out. She woke up and lived without serious damage from a "beating".
 

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I'm not defending him. I'm just saying he was already punished for knocking his fiancee out. Not sure why this video changes things other than the NFL trying to protect their own ass because of public pressure. And the second thing was I thought the video was far less severe than I imagined. Two drunk people, one stupid decision, his fiancee didn't press any charges and has admitted that it was a bad situation by both of them.

I just don't get how he can be punished twice for someone he already admitted to doing. I mean I get why he can, because the Goodell is protecting his own ass, but I wonder what people think happens when someone gets knocked out. Like what did you imagine happened in the elevator?

Is being suspended two games and not being arrested a punishment for knocking out your GF? If you or I did that, we'd be in jail and probably fired from our jobs.
 

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Is being suspended two games and not being arrested a punishment for knocking out your GF? If you or I did that, we'd be in jail and probably fired from our jobs.

Never said the punishment was right or wrong. Just said he was already punished for knocking out his girlfriend. Not sure how this video changes his story. Everyone says it goes along with the story he told.
 

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You're just playing a game of semantics. I'm saying someone like War machine beat his gf senseless. Ray rice knocked his gf out. She woke up and lived without serious damage from a "beating".

No. You're playing a game of semantics. I'm using the everyday definition of the words unconscious and senseless.

Youre trying to tell me that she was not beaten senseless even though she was in fact knocked unconscious. She was knocked out to the point that she was without her senses. She was senseless. It's a pretty simple concept.
 

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Never said the punishment was right or wrong. Just said he was already punished for knocking out his girlfriend. Not sure how this video changes his story. Everyone says it goes along with the story he told.

It changes his story because it proves he lied. His version to the commish, team and teammates wasn't quite the same as what we saw on that video.
 

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No. You're playing a game of semantics. I'm using the everyday definition of the words unconscious and senseless.

Youre trying to tell me that she was not beaten senseless even though she was in fact knocked unconscious. She was knocked out to the point that she was without her senses. She was senseless. It's a pretty simple concept.

You can keep playing your word games all day long. I already explained what I meant.
 

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