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[festeringZit]

Newly released Ahmaud Arbery video shows 2017 shoplifting arrest




Newly released police bodycam video shows Georgia slay victim Ahmaud Arbery being handcuffed and arrested for shoplifting in 2017.
The video, dated Dec. 1, 2017, shows Arbery and three teenagers being confronted by police in the parking lot of a Walmart shopping center, according to the footage posted on YouTube on Tuesday.
“Tell me about the TV,” a police officer asks.
“TV? What? We don’t have any TV,” Arbery, wearing shorts and a parka, responds.
“What about the 65-inch TV?” the cop says.
“Sixty-five-inch TV?” Arbery says.
“Do me a favor,” the cop replies. “All of you take a seat.”
“Take a seat for what?” Arbery snaps back. “I don’t know nothing about no TV. … I don’t steal no TV.”
Another man, presumably a Walmart employee, approaches and the police officer tells him, “it’s that one right there with the fur jacket” — suggesting Arbery — and the man nods.
“What TV?” Arbery says. “The TV is in there,” motioning toward the store.
Arbery then claims he has a receipt and tries to get up from the ground, but is placed in handcuffs and put into a squad car.
He’s driven back to the store, where he and the three teenagers are seen walking into the back of the store and into a rear office, where the video eventually ends.
According to WSB-TV in Atlanta, Arbery later pleaded guilty to stealing the TV and was sentenced to five years of probation.
The release of the footage comes one day after another bodycam video shows a confrontation between Arbery a month earlier at a local park. In that video, police attempt to tase Arbery while he is being questioned about sitting in his car in the park.
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S. Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Arbery family told the station the video shows the “criminalization of blackness itself.”
Arbery, 25, has been the subject of a national outcry over his Feb. 23 shooting death, allegedly by two white men, who chased down the unarmed black jogger in their Brunswick neighborhood.
Gregory McMichael, 64, a former Glynn County cop and investigator for the district attorney’s office, and his 34-year-old son, Travis McMichael, were charged with murder earlier this month after cellphone video of his death went public and caused widespread outrage.
The McMichaels claimed they believed Arbery was a suspected burglar after he was spotted at a nearby construction site — which has since become a morbid tourist stop.
An extended version of the video released by a lawyer for Arbery’s family shows he was chased for more than 4 minutes before Travis McMichael confronted him and shot him twice at close range with a shotgun during a scuffle.


https://nypost.com/2020/05/19/new-ahmaud-arbery-video-shows-2017-shoplifting-arrest/

 

[slapshot]

So anybody’s that’s been arrested it’s open season on them hno:

 

[JohnnyMac]

newly released ahmaud arbery video shows 2017 shoplifting arrest




newly released police bodycam video shows georgia slay victim ahmaud arbery being handcuffed and arrested for shoplifting in 2017.
the video, dated dec. 1, 2017, shows arbery and three teenagers being confronted by police in the parking lot of a walmart shopping center, according to the footage posted on youtube on tuesday.
“tell me about the tv,” a police officer asks.
“tv? What? We don’t have any tv,” arbery, wearing shorts and a parka, responds.
“what about the 65-inch tv?” the cop says.
“sixty-five-inch tv?” arbery says.
“do me a favor,” the cop replies. “all of you take a seat.”
“take a seat for what?” arbery snaps back. “i don’t know nothing about no tv. … i don’t steal no tv.”
another man, presumably a walmart employee, approaches and the police officer tells him, “it’s that one right there with the fur jacket” — suggesting arbery — and the man nods.
“what tv?” arbery says. “the tv is in there,” motioning toward the store.
arbery then claims he has a receipt and tries to get up from the ground, but is placed in handcuffs and put into a squad car.
he’s driven back to the store, where he and the three teenagers are seen walking into the back of the store and into a rear office, where the video eventually ends.
according to wsb-tv in atlanta, arbery later pleaded guilty to stealing the tv and was sentenced to five years of probation.
the release of the footage comes one day after another bodycam video shows a confrontation between arbery a month earlier at a local park. In that video, police attempt to tase arbery while he is being questioned about sitting in his car in the park.
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s. Lee merritt, an attorney for the arbery family told the station the video shows the “criminalization of blackness itself.”
arbery, 25, has been the subject of a national outcry over his feb. 23 shooting death, allegedly by two white men, who chased down the unarmed black jogger in their brunswick neighborhood.
gregory mcmichael, 64, a former glynn county cop and investigator for the district attorney’s office, and his 34-year-old son, travis mcmichael, were charged with murder earlier this month after cellphone video of his death went public and caused widespread outrage.
the mcmichaels claimed they believed arbery was a suspected burglar after he was spotted at a nearby construction site — which has since become a morbid tourist stop.
an extended version of the video released by a lawyer for arbery’s family shows he was chased for more than 4 minutes before travis mcmichael confronted him and shot him twice at close range with a shotgun during a scuffle.


https://nypost.com/2020/05/19/new-ahmaud-arbery-video-shows-2017-shoplifting-arrest/

Not legally relevant.

 

[slapshot]

Not legally relevant.

they don’t care they will try to justify it somehow hno:

 

[JohnnyMac]

they don’t care they will try to justify it somehow hno:

I know.

 

[Cheddar]

Isn't it weird how they they can have a march for Arbery with not everyone wearing masks, marching arm in arm and not one word about social distancing?

 

[Seymour]

"What TV?" "I ain't know nothing bout no 65 inch TV"

right there - the baton goes across his head - well it was supposed to - at least the cop didn't let the charade go on long

 

[festeringZit]

Not legally relevant.

Do you still think Arbery was just out for a jog? WBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA



Federal Rule of Evidence on Prior Convictions
Under the Federal Rule of Evidence (often referred to as the FRE) section 609, prior criminal convictions can only be used if the conviction was punishable by more than one year in prison, and the value of the evidence does not result in an unfair advantage to the prosecution. Lawyers and courts refer to this later inquiry as "whether the probative value outweighs the prejudice" to the defendant. However, if the conviction relates to an act of dishonesty, such as fraud or a false statement, it may nevertheless be admitted.
Another caveat to whether a prior conviction can be used under the federal rules relates to how long ago the conviction occurred. Convictions older than 10 years must be much more relevant and valuable (probative) in order to be seen as not providing an unfair advantage to the prosecution (prejudicing a defendant). Lastly, if a defendant had their conviction pardoned, expunged, or otherwise removed from the public record, or reversed, these may be properly excluded.
State Rules of Evidence on Prior Convictions
Most state evidence codes follow the model set forth by the federal rules, but have minor variations on when prior convictions can be used. For example, in California, a primary determining factor involves whether the conviction was a felony or not, regardless of the duration of punishment, as under California Evidence Code section 788 only felonies can be used against a defendant.

 

[Seymour]

[ Bunch of dumb ass libtards in this thread think Arbery was just out jogging. BWHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH ]

I doubt they really think he was out for his daily jog

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

I keep seeing more encounters Aubery had with the police and in each case he was confrontational and cursed the police out.

Exactly. Great man. Put those tyrants in their place. They work for him, remember that. No right to be rolling on people like that demanding ID when he’s allowed to be outside.



That’s EXACTLY how you should handle the police. And that’s why the police couldn’t do nothing so they sent the two hillbillies to do their dirty work.

 

[Mobdeeper7239]

So anybody’s that’s been arrested it’s open season on them hno:

Anyone black and thats been arrested....yes, that’s correct.

 

[Seymour]

he really seems like such a sweet young boy - he had such a promising future

 

[Seymour]

So anybody’s that’s been arrested it’s open season on them hno:

He's dead for a host of reasons - the most significant being that he tried to take a gun out of someone's hand

he don't like being arrested - in that video - if the cop does not cuff him up - I can assure u - he's was gonna be jogging real soon

 

[JohnnyMac]

Do you still think Arbery was just out for a jog? WBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA



Federal Rule of Evidence on Prior Convictions
Under the Federal Rule of Evidence (often referred to as the FRE) section 609, prior criminal convictions can only be used if the conviction was punishable by more than one year in prison, and the value of the evidence does not result in an unfair advantage to the prosecution. Lawyers and courts refer to this later inquiry as "whether the probative value outweighs the prejudice" to the defendant. However, if the conviction relates to an act of dishonesty, such as fraud or a false statement, it may nevertheless be admitted.
Another caveat to whether a prior conviction can be used under the federal rules relates to how long ago the conviction occurred. Convictions older than 10 years must be much more relevant and valuable (probative) in order to be seen as not providing an unfair advantage to the prosecution (prejudicing a defendant). Lastly, if a defendant had their conviction pardoned, expunged, or otherwise removed from the public record, or reversed, these may be properly excluded.
State Rules of Evidence on Prior Convictions
Most state evidence codes follow the model set forth by the federal rules, but have minor variations on when prior convictions can be used. For example, in California, a primary determining factor involves whether the conviction was a felony or not, regardless of the duration of punishment, as under California Evidence Code section 788 only felonies can be used against a defendant.

Evidence Rule 609 refers to impeaching the credibility of a witness. Arbery is dead, so he won’t be a witness, so 609
won’t apply.

You are in over your head. Give up.

What this really shows is that you will venture off into areas you have no grasp of to try to prove a point. You really couldn’t be more wrong by citing 609.

 

[festeringZit]

Evidence Rule 609 refers to impeaching the credibility of a witness. Arbery is dead, so he won’t be a witness, so 609
won’t apply.

You are in over your head. Give up.

What this really shows is that you will venture off into areas you have no grasp of to try to prove a point. You really couldn’t be more wrong by citing 609.

Says the dumb ass that thinks that Arbery was out for a casual jog.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Says the dumb ass that thinks that Arbery was out for a casual jog.

Great come-back. Very convincing. Now you know why I originally said I wasn’t going to waste my time explaining it to you.

 

[festeringZit]

Great come-back. Very convincing. Now you know why I originally said I wasn’t going to waste my time explaining it to you.

Yawn..what is comical is someone that purports to have looked at all the evidence in this case, and still insists that the convicted felon was just out for a casual jog. And then this same person tries to patronize others who point out the utter stupidity in holding this position.

Yes, I realize his prior convictions might not be legally admissible in court, that has never been my point.

 

[KennyB]

Genius, this is being tried in State Court, not Federal Court.

 

[Enfuego]

Yawn..what is comical is someone that purports to have looked at all the evidence in this case, and still insists that the convicted felon was just out for a casual jog. And then this same person tries to patronize others who point out the utter stupidity in holding this position.

Yes, I realize his prior convictions might not be legally admissible in court, that has never been my point.

He also said he was in the under construction house to get a drink or something silly like that.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Yawn..what is comical is someone that purports to have looked at all the evidence in this case, and still insists that the convicted felon was just out for a casual jog. And then this same person tries to patronize others who point out the utter stupidity in holding this position.

Yes, I realize his prior convictions might not be legally admissible in court, that has never been my point.

Liar! You have directly argued in this thread that “I have showed you the court cases where it could be admissible.” You have twice posted (the comments to) Rule 609 (but probably not Georgia’s version of 609) in an attempt to show this evidence could be admissible. What else could you have been arguing?

And me thinking he was jogging is my opinion. His mom said he was out jogging. He was dressed for jogging. He was known to jog in that neighborhood. He is a thin guy who is obviously in good shape. HE IS ON VIDEO JOGGING ON THAT DAY. I think my opinion is reasonable.

Hiw about you admit you posting Rule 609 is comical? Because it is.