<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>wil is there various charts dependent on the game & the rules? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good question, most likely most charts are designed to be used against single or double deck games using standard (old) Vegas rules.
This chart never recommends insurance.
wil.
Good question, most likely most charts are designed to be used against single or double deck games using standard (old) Vegas rules.
This chart never recommends insurance.
wil.
Hache these charts happen to be from a google search. I am in no way indorsing them.
There was a book published some twenty years or more ago, called "Beat The Dealer" by a Dr. Thorp, who systematically played some 100 million blackjack hands using computers (obviously). From his results, he published the above chart in his book which lay out the his basic strategies for playing blackjack hands.
H = Hit S = Stay D = Double Down P = Split
wil.
There was a book published some twenty years or more ago, called "Beat The Dealer" by a Dr. Thorp, who systematically played some 100 million blackjack hands using computers (obviously). From his results, he published the above chart in his book which lay out the his basic strategies for playing blackjack hands.
H = Hit S = Stay D = Double Down P = Split
wil.
Oh, I know Wil, I was just saying. For anyone to say you never take insurance is insane. In the instance above I mentioned, you could be just turning down money on a hand.Also, it takes basic strategy and concentration, also someone that can remember past hands very well. I have much success at certain times in making dealer bust often. Odds are important in blackjack compared to them not being in other games as Sick mentioned above.........
if you have a biased wheel, charting numbers can be quite profitable. though rarely found.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sick gambler:
i swear i laugh at these losers in a casino who write down all the numbers on roulette after each spin, thinking that the last 28 spins have something to do with what will happen next.. When will these people learn that nothing evens out after 28 spins or even 100 spins, and that it all evens out over millions and millions of spins. These dummies get on my nerves in these casinos when they keep track of each spin by writing them down. You can sit there and tell them all you want, they just never listen..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i swear i laugh at these losers in a casino who write down all the numbers on roulette after each spin, thinking that the last 28 spins have something to do with what will happen next.. When will these people learn that nothing evens out after 28 spins or even 100 spins, and that it all evens out over millions and millions of spins. These dummies get on my nerves in these casinos when they keep track of each spin by writing them down. You can sit there and tell them all you want, they just never listen..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
UNLESS YOU ARE COUNTING CARDS and the count is +3 or higher you NEVER take insurance. Ever. eVEN IF YOU HAVE A bj, NO EVEN MONEY.
Taking even money is just one of the wrong things that so many polayers do, most think it is correct.
wil, your charts are OK, but slightly off. You can usually find an accurate card for $2 at Vegas casino gift shops and you can use it at the table. It is better to try and learn it though.
Taking even money is just one of the wrong things that so many polayers do, most think it is correct.
wil, your charts are OK, but slightly off. You can usually find an accurate card for $2 at Vegas casino gift shops and you can use it at the table. It is better to try and learn it though.
the chart wil says " never reccomends insurance" is correct for multi deck games. the one below it is for single deck with no double after splits, which coincidentally they have 2 tables at the Golden Nugget.Either chart is OK to use, I would learn the one for multiple decks as most times that is what you find in a casino.
These two tables ARE NOT the 3 with BIG signs advertising" Single Deck Blackjack" they have small signs on the table that say single deck. The ones with BIG signs overhead are ripoff games with bad rules ( blackjack pays less, even money I think) and should be avoided.
These two tables ARE NOT the 3 with BIG signs advertising" Single Deck Blackjack" they have small signs on the table that say single deck. The ones with BIG signs overhead are ripoff games with bad rules ( blackjack pays less, even money I think) and should be avoided.
WIZARD OF ODDS has some decent info on basic strategy, rule variations, etc
Sick
The way someone plays black jack absolutely affects the rest of the chute. It is not like roulette where every spin is it's own spin. In black jack, if I hit or stay will definitely change the sequence of the remaining chute. I acknowledge the fact that I may stay and the dealer draws a 2 and then draws a 10 and busts where if I would have hit and drew the 2 the dealer would have still drawn the 10 and busted that nothing was altered., however, to say that some jack ass that doesn't play the game correctly doesn't affect the game is wrong. They affect the remaining of the chute.
The way someone plays black jack absolutely affects the rest of the chute. It is not like roulette where every spin is it's own spin. In black jack, if I hit or stay will definitely change the sequence of the remaining chute. I acknowledge the fact that I may stay and the dealer draws a 2 and then draws a 10 and busts where if I would have hit and drew the 2 the dealer would have still drawn the 10 and busted that nothing was altered., however, to say that some jack ass that doesn't play the game correctly doesn't affect the game is wrong. They affect the remaining of the chute.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> sicko,
it is the same with people who think a bad player at a BJ game affects their chance of winning or losing...
In the long haul it has ZERO to do with it...but people will argue to the death & even threaten violence if people play incorrectly... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sick you are absolutely wrong on this one.
If someone makes a bad hit or stand it DOES effect the rest of the shoe and the eventual outcome.
Blackjack is nothing like roulette and the independent trial theory does not apply. In blackjack every hand is not an independent trial. The cards do have a memory so to speak. The sequence of events in one hand can definately effect the outcome of the next hand.
it is the same with people who think a bad player at a BJ game affects their chance of winning or losing...
In the long haul it has ZERO to do with it...but people will argue to the death & even threaten violence if people play incorrectly... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sick you are absolutely wrong on this one.
If someone makes a bad hit or stand it DOES effect the rest of the shoe and the eventual outcome.
Blackjack is nothing like roulette and the independent trial theory does not apply. In blackjack every hand is not an independent trial. The cards do have a memory so to speak. The sequence of events in one hand can definately effect the outcome of the next hand.
Agree with BAUS....too much weight is placed on taking a card or two from the shoe and the results from that decision can either change the shoe from good to bad or vice-versa....
...one can only speculate as to what changes will take place.
What used to bug me about casino gambling was sitting at a table and getting fed a constant diet of 14's, 15's, and 16's.......betting like four times more than the player next to me....he's getting good hands and playing them absolutely horrible for table minimums....example:
Last time I was there a guy got a pair of aces dealt to him, dealer had a 6 up.....the guy HIT the aces, got a king....HIT it again, got another king, and busted. WTF???
Other people don't split cards when the occasion calls for it claiming "that would be too much money out there for one hand"....Ok, so they sit there for 4 hours and play a hand every two minutes for a total of 120 hands in four hours...at table minimums....so if they split a hand and played 121 hands in the same time period that would be too much???
I've seen local poker games such as "follow the queens"....where when a queen comes up the queen is wild and the following card is also wild.....the queens aren't showing up, and the dealer offers the deck to someone at the table to "cut for a queen"....thinking in terms of cutting the deck to bring a queen into play....what they don't realize is that this makes no difference whatsoever, if they cut the deck they can just as easily cut a queen out of play as they could cut one into play....the odds on the queen coming out stay the same and are only oddswise in direct proportion to the unused portion of the deck.....a superstitious practice at best...
...one can only speculate as to what changes will take place.
What used to bug me about casino gambling was sitting at a table and getting fed a constant diet of 14's, 15's, and 16's.......betting like four times more than the player next to me....he's getting good hands and playing them absolutely horrible for table minimums....example:
Last time I was there a guy got a pair of aces dealt to him, dealer had a 6 up.....the guy HIT the aces, got a king....HIT it again, got another king, and busted. WTF???
Other people don't split cards when the occasion calls for it claiming "that would be too much money out there for one hand"....Ok, so they sit there for 4 hours and play a hand every two minutes for a total of 120 hands in four hours...at table minimums....so if they split a hand and played 121 hands in the same time period that would be too much???
I've seen local poker games such as "follow the queens"....where when a queen comes up the queen is wild and the following card is also wild.....the queens aren't showing up, and the dealer offers the deck to someone at the table to "cut for a queen"....thinking in terms of cutting the deck to bring a queen into play....what they don't realize is that this makes no difference whatsoever, if they cut the deck they can just as easily cut a queen out of play as they could cut one into play....the odds on the queen coming out stay the same and are only oddswise in direct proportion to the unused portion of the deck.....a superstitious practice at best...
Good post - Take Texas Holdem for example, would it be played one iota differently if the dealer didn't burn a card before the flop, 4th street, and the River? Of course not, the same values would still apply to all aspects of the game. The same is true with blackjack, a dealer holding 15 is going to get a card in turn, no one can say the next card or the one after will be the bust card.
wil.
wil.
Wil....true, the values would stay the same...just looking at some of the outcomes of the hands in these hold'em tourneys where two guys are all in, and the last card turns the other guy into the winner....
...a few of those happen, and pretty soon somebody else wins the tournament....unpredictable at times....
I played pitch years ago with guys that shuffled the deck quick, what it basically amounted to was little more than a riffle together and two or three cuts.....at the time we were playing 6-point pitch, and each player only got 6 cards to play with.....this is more or less a form of cheating, as they were merely remembering what cards were out last hand....knowing the cards weren't shuffled well put a lot of the same cards into play that were used in the last hand.....that and basic shuffle tracking....
I simply altered my bidding to reflect the fact that the strong suit of last hand was in all likelihood still out there in the current hand....last hand was rich in spades....getting a few of those spades back in the next hand almost guaranteed that the same cards were in effect....
Christ Wil, do you ever sleep....???
...a few of those happen, and pretty soon somebody else wins the tournament....unpredictable at times....
I played pitch years ago with guys that shuffled the deck quick, what it basically amounted to was little more than a riffle together and two or three cuts.....at the time we were playing 6-point pitch, and each player only got 6 cards to play with.....this is more or less a form of cheating, as they were merely remembering what cards were out last hand....knowing the cards weren't shuffled well put a lot of the same cards into play that were used in the last hand.....that and basic shuffle tracking....
I simply altered my bidding to reflect the fact that the strong suit of last hand was in all likelihood still out there in the current hand....last hand was rich in spades....getting a few of those spades back in the next hand almost guaranteed that the same cards were in effect....
Christ Wil, do you ever sleep....???
