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I will bet anything that the guy was on some sort of meds currently or in the not so distant past. These killers always seem to be yet you never hear that side of the story in the media, just the leftist talking points of ban all guns yada yada.

Of course they never bring up the fact that crime is actually down in this country based on official FBI statistics or that cities & states that let legal citizens arm themselves have lower crime rates compared to gun free locations.

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The NRA isn't interested in changing anything. Any reasonable change will not be thought of as reasonable from gun nuts.

I would post a list of gun legislation the NRA has supported but what would be the point? You literally know nothing of this topic. Nothing at all.
 

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I will bet anything that the guy was on some sort of meds currently or in the not so distant past. These killers always seem to be yet you never hear that side of the story in the media, just the leftist talking points of ban all guns yada yada.

Of course they never bring up the fact that crime is actually down in this country based on official FBI statistics or that cities & states that let legal citizens arm themselves have lower crime rates compared to gun free locations.

In 1965 it was perfectly legal for a 17 year old to take the NYC subway to school with a rifle on his back to go to the school and practice for the school's gun club.

If you think guns are the problem, you're not paying attention. Liberals think guns are the problem.

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we have a culture where boys who want to play "war" or be naturally active are demonized as "hyper" and put on Ritalin or some other medication. Wouldn't any thoughtful person wonder what the long term effect of putting a 12 year old on a daily medication for say 7 years, is? Does anyone realize that with a lot of these medications the medical community knows they work, but can't tell you how? [Additionally in some instances we have no idea if medications work at all]

And of course some of the other cultural problems we have are a tendency toward reclusiveness, video games, and the trivialization of death, not to mention an explosion in single motherhood, a dumbing down of the educational system, and the gravitation toward the idea that "trying hard" is more important than actual success.

Wouldn't you love to see a Venn Diagram of these public shootings that had "on prescription medication" "single mom" and "introvert ?

Given the state of America today, I'm actually shocked this isn't happening more.

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he number of firearms in circulation has gone up exponentially in the last 20 years (and the issuance of concealed carry permits has gone up 500%) and yet the violent crime rate has declined. Rather sharply.

Those are facts. So if your response to a mass shooting, one mind you, where you have no clue what the motive and the weapon used, is to call for more gun laws, you're frankly, dumb. There is no other way to say it.
 

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In 1965 it was perfectly legal for a 17 year old to take the NYC subway to school with a rifle on his back to go to the school and practice for the school's gun club.

If you think guns are the problem, you're not paying attention. Liberals think guns are the problem.

And again,
we have a culture where boys who want to play "war" or be naturally active are demonized as "hyper" and put on Ritalin or some other medication. Wouldn't any thoughtful person wonder what the long term effect of putting a 12 year old on a daily medication for say 7 years, is? Does anyone realize that with a lot of these medications the medical community knows they work, but can't tell you how? [Additionally in some instances we have no idea if medications work at all]

And of course some of the other cultural problems we have are a tendency toward reclusiveness, video games, and the trivialization of death, not to mention an explosion in single motherhood, a dumbing down of the educational system, and the gravitation toward the idea that "trying hard" is more important than actual success.

Wouldn't you love to see a Venn Diagram of these public shootings that had "on prescription medication" "single mom" and "introvert ?

Given the state of America today, I'm actually shocked this isn't happening more.

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he number of firearms in circulation has gone up exponentially in the last 20 years (and the issuance of concealed carry permits has gone up 500%) and yet the violent crime rate has declined. Rather sharply.

Those are facts. So if your response to a mass shooting, one mind you, where you have no clue what the motive and the weapon used, is to call for more gun laws, you're frankly, dumb. There is no other way to say it.

Me too.
 
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Those are facts. So if your response to a mass shooting, one mind you, where you have no clue what the motive and the weapon used, is to call for more gun laws, you're frankly, dumb. There is no other way to say it.

You are kidding right? I am NOT anti gun or support taking guns away from rightful citizens in anyway. I am calling out the idiotic leftists who will once again use a tragedy to trumpet their asinine anti-gun stance even though facts show an unarmed public = more crime.
 

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You are kidding right? I am NOT anti gun or support taking guns away from rightful citizens in anyway. I am calling out the idiotic leftists who will once again use a tragedy to trumpet their asinine anti-gun stance even though facts show an unarmed public = more crime.

I know, I was agreeing with you.
 

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I would post a list of gun legislation the NRA has supported but what would be the point? You literally know nothing of this topic. Nothing at all.

You are an idiot on every issue. Always wrong and always lying......yeah, those great American patriots at the NRA....go borrow money and buy a clue you broke miserable loser. Why do you think you're completely alone in life?
 

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You are an idiot on every issue. Always wrong and always lying......yeah, those great American patriots at the NRA....go borrow money and buy a clue you broke miserable loser. Why do you think you're completely alone in life?

The fact that you think this is a response is hilarious.

Your posts are embarrassing.
 

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You are kidding right? I am NOT anti gun or support taking guns away from rightful citizens in anyway. I am calling out the idiotic leftists who will once again use a tragedy to trumpet their asinine anti-gun stance even though facts show an unarmed public = more crime.

Are there statistics that show this? What facts? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know.
 
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Are there statistics that show this? What facts? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know.

FBI Crime Statistics

The highest crime cities seem to have the one big thing in common, they are gun free zones for law abiding citizens.

The media won't focus on the facts because it does not fit the narrative fed to them. They will harp on shootings like this nationally but not on stories like a 12 year old Oklahoma girl a few years ago who shot an intruder when she was home alone.
 

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The fact that you think this is a response is hilarious.

Your posts are embarrassing.

The bible, guns, sports, gambling.....every issue you discuss.....you swing and miss. You're just a miserable, broke, lying piece of shit who will always be alone in a one bedroom apartments
 

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The bible, guns, sports, gambling.....every issue you discuss.....you swing and miss.

Provide an actual example of me "swinging and missing" on guns and I'll leave this Web site forever, you silly clown.

Go right ahead. Show everyone how smart and what a big truth teller you are.
 

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he received the attention he was looking for, he's in his glory somewhere

even sick minds can teach us something

This lesson, our value system is fucked up, it starts with all the idiocy we consume and sell every day, and the solutions start (maybe even end) with the family



it's not and will never be a government solution, they're the ones destroying the fabric of families

you can't legislate utopia, you can live by example and raise your children responsibly, and stop believing the idiots in DC know something about anything
 

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FBI Crime Statistics

The highest crime cities seem to have the one big thing in common, they are gun free zones for law abiding citizens.

The media won't focus on the facts because it does not fit the narrative fed to them. They will harp on shootings like this nationally but not on stories like a 12 year old Oklahoma girl a few years ago who shot an intruder when she was home alone.

Well, you said an unarmed public and nowhere in the US do we have an unarmed public. So I'm not sure how the FBI can accumulate stats that show an unarmed public=more crime when we don't have that in the US.
 

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In the last two weekends in Chicago, 98 people were shot and 13 people were killed. Not a peep from Obama about any of it.

But he's all wee-weed up about this because Obama is a silly lying asshole.
 

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