Only Single People Go to the Gym

[GoBlue34]

Missed replying timely but I think my preworkout stuff gives me 5% gains, max if that (maybe 1 or 2 more reps that I might not have pushed out before). Sounds minimal but that extra edge is worth it.

That and honestly even if they don't work something in my head tells me they are and that mental is worth the money I spend. I thought they were stupid before I took them but there is something in my mind that clicks once I take my white flood combo, I "have" to go to the gym at that point. Like I just did 5 minutes ago...

 

[MattyMatt]

I'm a diabetic so I have limitations

Ahh, I see.

 

[MattyMatt]

Missed replying timely but I think my preworkout stuff gives me 5% gains, max if that (maybe 1 or 2 more reps that I might not have pushed out before). Sounds minimal but that extra edge is worth it.

That and honestly even if they don't work something in my head tells me they are and that mental is worth the money I spend. I thought they were stupid before I took them but there is something in my mind that clicks once I take my white flood combo, I "have" to go to the gym at that point. Like I just did 5 minutes ago...

I can agree with this...

 

[rayray]

chop, that 9-11k is a one day system shock... they eat 6k-7k a day in the offseason... they lose 5-7lbs overnight too... i lose 2-3 most nights and im walking around about 178 now...their metabolism is sick... we just had a big contest here in tunica and im buddies with a lot of local meatheads... it was interesting to see their changes the last few months and i learned so much about the day to day requirements ... of course, they were all on test/tren/clen for the final months to help shed the fat, but the cardio is different...the training is different... and the nutrition is brutal cutting carbs out altogether except veggies...

i carb cycled for a month and dropped 9lbs... but i feel better with more weight, so im back to eating 4250-4500 cals a day...ive been fucking tiny my whole life.. 3 month goal is to get to 190-195 ... i should be able to cut into single digit bf% at around 175 ... that will be solid for 5'6

 

[nuckers]

Why don't you guys that are working our regularly and religious with your diet at least run a cycle of test. enanthate at minimum? Maybe some HGH if you have $$

im on test year round, trt, im on the lower end of the acceptable range off so my doc worked with me and got me on figuring over time itd continue to dip. Im over 30 so it was just a matter of time given where my levels sat so we just beat it to the punch. So I cruise on trt year round and I will blast twice a year (use more than just test, run a proper cycle ). Ive also been on hgh for the last 3 years non stop, minor dose, its pricy but really a game changer for just general well being. Skin is better, hair is better, sleep better, ive always looked young for my age but im told frequently I havent aged in years and I pass for my mid 20s still, I know gh is responsible for part of my continued youthful appearance. Metabolism continues to race along like it did when I was in my early 20s, and that for me is where I notice it most. Prior hgh I was having to do a lot more work to stay lean, I had to incorporate cardio, was meticulous with what went in, but I do enough cardio for my heart these days but dont need it for getting cut anymore, just my regular sports activities are enough where they werent anymore, I sit in single digits year round with little effort outside of eating mostly clean. My doctor is aware of my use and we do all required testing, spotless. Id recommend any guy over 30 get their test levels checked, and if you can swing it once you hit 35 add hgh, couple iu a day, wont make you huge, and but great for longevity and quality of life and who am I kidding vanity

 

[Samhain]

shub, absolutely... tear to grow ... there comes a time when muscles adapt to the workout you put them through... changing the workout and hitting different angles is one thing, but you wont accomplish much if you arent pushing yourself to complete failure and you still have strength to perform the negatives... if you arent achieving delayed onset muscle soreness, you are limiting your growth.

vlad, i run test with other things 2-3 times a year ... hgh is completely different... it is mostly used to heal nagging injuries and rehab faster after surgeries ... in order to see some muscle growth and development with hgh, it takes at least 6 months (to build or look like you would if you took aas for 2-3 months) ... and once you stop the hgh, the nagging problems come back... its like trt, once you get on it, you need to be ready to be on it for the rest of your days.... im told you do feel amazing though...im 41 and just not ready to step into it yet... :toast:

HGH or IGF-1 I've never tried.
Always stuck to Test, Deca & D-Bol

 

[CHOPTALK]

Well the first day I took PI it was excellent.
The 2nd day I took it, it seemed to do nothing.
The 3rd day I took it , it was excellent again.


The issue seems to be the the mixture is no right because of all the clumping and I'm not getting the proper ratio of ingredients when I take it every time.
Sometimes I get the stim parts of the formula and sometimes I don't.

I emailed them 5 days ago.
The template says they will respond in 24 hours.
If these people want to move up to the big time they need to answer there emails.

 

[rayray]

i dunno... throw that shit in a blender and leave it on for an hour

 

[nuckers]

Well the first day I took PI it was excellent.
The 2nd day I took it, it seemed to do nothing.
The 3rd day I took it , it was excellent again.


The issue seems to be the the mixture is no right because of all the clumping and I'm not getting the proper ratio of ingredients when I take it every time.
Sometimes I get the stim parts of the formula and sometimes I don't.

I emailed them 5 days ago.
The template says they will respond in 24 hours.
If these people want to move up to the big time they need to answer there emails.

I just emailed them yesterday haven't gotten a response yet either but will keep ya updated when and if I do. I dont use facebook but maybe ill use the womans page and try them from there as it seemed to help Matt.

I used hyde for cardio this morning, just ripped thru hiit, still a miserable experience but it does give ya the pep to push thru. Used a little less than half scoop was fk'n wired again. Its crazy, pregym has more caffeine than half a scoop of hyde but they feel totally different. PJ feels controlled, ultra clean focus and energy to get through any workout, hyde is straight up speed, my eyes bug out and I race thru whatever I have to do. I was talking to a cardio bunny at the gym and she asked me what I was on cause I was talking non stop and fidgety, showed her the bottle and she suggested maybe not taking that again lol.

 

[MattyMatt]

Well the first day I took PI it was excellent.
The 2nd day I took it, it seemed to do nothing.
The 3rd day I took it , it was excellent again.


The issue seems to be the the mixture is no right because of all the clumping and I'm not getting the proper ratio of ingredients when I take it every time.
Sometimes I get the stim parts of the formula and sometimes I don't.

I emailed them 5 days ago.
The template says they will respond in 24 hours.
If these people want to move up to the big time they need to answer there emails.

I got a response within 5 minutes on Facebook. Also called and the CEO will answer the phone. Like stated, they've agreed to give all 3 of us a new canister of the new batch, but I don't know your name or contact info. Sorry you're having problems. You can have my free one also if you want to tell them to send em both when you hear from them. I don't know what else to say. I can send them another message now and will probably hear back before you even respond to this message.

 

[MattyMatt]

I just emailed them yesterday haven't gotten a response yet either but will keep ya updated when and if I do. I dont use facebook but maybe ill use the womans page and try them from there as it seemed to help Matt.

I used hyde for cardio this morning, just ripped thru hiit, still a miserable experience but it does give ya the pep to push thru. Used a little less than half scoop was fk'n wired again. Its crazy, pregym has more caffeine than half a scoop of hyde but they feel totally different. PJ feels controlled, ultra clean focus and energy to get through any workout, hyde is straight up speed, my eyes bug out and I race thru whatever I have to do. I was talking to a cardio bunny at the gym and she asked me what I was on cause I was talking non stop and fidgety, showed her the bottle and she suggested maybe not taking that again lol.

Thanks for the info. No way am I taking the Hyde.

 

[MattyMatt]

BTW, the CEO is in Thailand right now. His name is Phil Catudal. He can be reached on Facebook as well. It may bite him in the ass like you stated eventually, but I believe he prefers to handle all contacts himself at the moment.

 

[nuckers]

Thanks for the info. No way am I taking the Hyde.

yeah I wouldn't recommend if you don't like feeling stimmed out, I am gonna have to drop down to a quarter scoop on days I really need a pick me up, it's gotta be for guys whose adrenals are fried cause if you have healthy adrenal function, you feel like your hearts gonna jump out thru your chest. There were times today I felt nauseous on it, luckily made it thru without hurling but intense stuff.

 

[CHOPTALK]

Damm nuc. Sorry bout that. I did warn you it's the most powerful stuff on the market. Even more then the original 3d. It's not just the caffeine. There is other shit in there to that gets you going.

If I were you I would keep taking pj and just add a quarter scoop or less of Hyde when you need a little extra
I don't treat Hyde as a stand alone pwo. I use small doses to enhance other pwos.

1 container of Hyde last me 6 months.

 

[Danny_Boy]

man..just went out for a run along the lake ( 82 degrees here today ) and it is sports bra, spandex shorts as far as the eye can see....so many hot girls out running, rollerblading and biking

 

[nuckers]

Damm nuc. Sorry bout that. I did warn you it's the most powerful stuff on the market. Even more then the original 3d. It's not just the caffeine. There is other shit in there to that gets you going.

If I were you I would keep taking pj and just add a quarter scoop or less of Hyde when you need a little extra
I don't treat Hyde as a stand alone pwo. I use small doses to enhance other pwos.

1 container of Hyde last me 6 months.

No worries, it's a good addition to the collection just needed to learn how to use it for my needs. the learning curve on it just isn't forgiving. Figured out a little goes a long way but a quarter scoop should be a nice pick me up on days im dragging and at that like you said it should last a hell of a long time so im not complaining at all just giving matt a heads up given his preference for low stims.

 

[rayray]

i cant tell you how many days ive woken up dragging ass... dont drink coffee, so i usually drink a pouch of hydroxycut....if its gone, i hammer down a scoop of hyde or c4 ... feels good ... for a while

 

[CHOPTALK]

I need to revise a previous review.
I don't know what it is but white pump after my first time taking it has fallen off. At first I thought I finally found something that was better then hemavol but the more I took it the less it worked.

So today I broke out the hemavol for the first time in 2 weeks and it was awesome baby. So hemavol is still the king. Sorry white pump. Hemavol is still the king.

 

[GoBlue34]

Good to know Chop, will avoid it.

Side note, yesterday again at the gym "that guy" was there (I always hate when he comes and we have a few of them). One in particular is this meat head who is no doubt stronger than me but is probably 25% body fat and never does cardio. But he always put way more weight than he can handle and makes sure to let everyone know he is putting a ton of weight on the bench press then proceeds to go half way down at most and does 4 reps and grunts as loud as he can so everyone hears him. Then loads up even more weight and does even worse with his form, slams the weight down and grunts even louder.

FU you weirdo. I'm much more impressed with guys that are ripped these days than those that walk around huge but with a beer gut. Chop made a mention about abs, I could easily eat everything in sight and gain mass but few can develop defined abs. To me that takes much more dedication.

Rant over

 

[nuckers]

Good to know Chop, will avoid it.

Side note, yesterday again at the gym "that guy" was there (I always hate when he comes and we have a few of them). One in particular is this meat head who is no doubt stronger than me but is probably 25% body fat and never does cardio. But he always put way more weight than he can handle and makes sure to let everyone know he is putting a ton of weight on the bench press then proceeds to go half way down at most and does 4 reps and grunts as loud as he can so everyone hears him. Then loads up even more weight and does even worse with his form, slams the weight down and grunts even louder.

FU you weirdo. I'm much more impressed with guys that are ripped these days than those that walk around huge but with a beer gut. Chop made a mention about abs, I could easily eat everything in sight and gain mass but few can develop defined abs. To me that takes much more dedication.

Rant over

no need to comment on that guy, every gyms got the morons who like to put on a show, form, personal safety and general gym etiquette be damned but re: abs vs the permabulker, im equally unimpressed by both, I dont get impressed till I see some size with abs. I work out at a gym full of asian 20 somethings, nearly 3 quarters of them have abs and weigh a buck 40. A lot of guys have the genetics for abs, a lot of guys have the genetics for size but few guys can put it together. That takes real work, unless youre gifted physically if youve got some size with abs you had to work for it and didnt have genetics gift you it.