NYC grand jury to return no indictment in police choke hold case

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I don't care what happens to non-compliant thug pieces of shit with criminal pasts.

Apparently, Grand Juries also don't care what happens to non-compliant thug pieces of shit with criminal pasts either.

Let's move on children.
 

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While the choke hold was against policy it was not illegal.

So I can go choke someone that isn't attacking me, and I shouldn't be arrested. Not only is it banned, but choking people is illegal.
 

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I don't care what happens to non-compliant thug pieces of shit with criminal pasts.

Apparently, Grand Juries also don't care what happens to non-compliant thug pieces of shit with criminal pasts either.

Let's move on children.
If not paying taxes on cigarettes makes one a thug, then I guess betting on sports makes you a thug.
 

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I am the biggest police apologist you will meet but this was excessive force.

i agree - why does the cop think he gets to just start choking someone that is showing no signs of agression - i dont think the cop meant to murder him but he acted rscklessly and the dude is dead - this isnt a black thing - its just police using excessive force
 

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If not paying taxes on cigarettes makes one a thug, then I guess betting on sports makes you a thug.

I think you should look a little more in to this guy's criminal history. He has 31 convictions and is out on bail for drug and impersonation charges.

And yes I don't care that this fat fuck died. Good riddance as the world is a better place without him.
 

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worldstage, the city of NY settled one excessive force suit against this cop for 30K and this cop has another suit pending - he belongs in jail
 

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worldstage, the city of NY settled one excessive force suit against this cop for 30K and this cop has another suit pending - he belongs in jail

Clearly Garner was baiting him so he could win a suit. The blacks do that. Its called the ghetto lottery. Watch the video. Garner slapped the cops hand away 3 times. Resisted arrest, using his size to intimidate. Nobody could have predicted that the choke would be fatal. People need to be responsible for their actions and Garner was a fat fuck who was a choke hold and heart attack away from death. He shouldn't put himself in these positions if he cared. Nobody will miss him.
 

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Don't resist arrest, you live...I back the cops here as well as Ferguson and I donated to the defense fund of Zimmerman
 

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i agree that Garner was a drag on society but his cop is cut from the same cloth - probably much worse - and he was the only cop in the group to act li,e an asshole - he escalated the entire situation
 

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i agree that Garner was a drag on society but his cop is cut from the same cloth - probably much worse - and he was the only cop in the group to act li,e an asshole - he escalated the entire situation

I think escalating would be shooting the guy in the head. I'm all for holding police accountable but this guy resisted arrest and cops are trained to take whatever measures they can to gain compliance. Its stupid to resist, no matter how unjust the arrest is. Took 3 cops to bring him down and without the choke I doubt he was going to be restrained. Can't let the monkeys run the zoo. The "I can't breathe" is silly as if he couldn't breathe he couldn't talk. Cops have to be tough in this area. This happened in a bad area - one of the worst in the city.
 

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Everyone is missing the point with Ferguson and Garner. This problem isn't with the racist police or the judicial system. I've never been choked out or shot. You know why? I'm not doing anything illegal. If you're not a scumbag, and don't associate with any, then you're not going to have problems with the police.

The problem here is that people are habitually doing illegal things, specifically in poor neighborhoods. We need to find a way to fix that. Better education, better trade skill programs, and more accountability. The media and public ALWAYS focus on the outcome rather than the problem. The same thing happened in the Newtown shooting, every idiot focused on gun control when the problem was mental healthcare.

At the end of the day, both these cops are going to lose their jobs and essentially their lives are ruined, for trying their best to do their jobs.
 

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the key here is that the cop used a banned form of restraining. that is what he is responsible for. you can't compress and occlude major vessels that are likely causing a percentage of ischemia as is. and i'm sure he didn't know garner had any medical conditions, but he sure as hell should've known his own department's rules. had the cop followed protocol, garner would be alive (other wild scenarios aside.)
 

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I think he'll be fired. Not enough, but I think he's gone.
 
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KFC is the killer here. He died of a heart attack not a choke hold genius.

You are an idiot if you truly believe that. He died because of an illegal choke hold. The cops had zero business putting him in that move especially after he clearly yells that he can't breathe.
 
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Clearly Garner was baiting him so he could win a suit. The blacks do that. Its called the ghetto lottery. Watch the video. Garner slapped the cops hand away 3 times. Resisted arrest, using his size to intimidate. Nobody could have predicted that the choke would be fatal. People need to be responsible for their actions and Garner was a fat fuck who was a choke hold and heart attack away from death. He shouldn't put himself in these positions if he cared. Nobody will miss him.

Well we can Clearly see that you are a Racist.

I'm not even looking at it that way. and it really has Nothing to do with his past. Even though you feel it does.
Also, as far as him being a "Fat Fuck" You Must look like Superman....

So maybe he lived on KFC and McDonalds and Smoked.... Does that give the Cop the right to do what he did ? NO
The fact that he was Overweight probably had something to do with his Death and the Choke Hold.... But If the Cop DIDN'T place a Choke hold on him. The Guy would have walked away ALIVE.

and Nobody was looking for a Murder indictment... a Lesser charge like if someone has a fight and someone dies. ...
Could have been manslaughter or reckless homicide..... something !! because if you want to put his health in the mix. It was a combo of that, and what the Cop did to Cause his Death.
 

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Well we can Clearly see that you are a Racist.

I'm not even looking at it that way. and it really has Nothing to do with his past. Even though you feel it does.
Also, as far as him being a "Fat Fuck" You Must look like Superman....

So maybe he lived on KFC and McDonalds and Smoked.... Does that give the Cop the right to do what he did ? NO
The fact that he was Overweight probably had something to do with his Death and the Choke Hold.... But If the Cop DIDN'T place a Choke hold on him. The Guy would have walked away ALIVE.

and Nobody was looking for a Murder indictment... a Lesser charge like if someone has a fight and someone dies. ...
Could have been manslaughter or reckless homicide..... something !! because if you want to put his health in the mix. It was a combo of that, and what the Cop did to Cause his Death.

I was waiting for you to play the race card. I didnt invent the "ghetto lottery".

Easy to be the Monday morning quarterback and invent charges that don't even apply in the case.

Grand jury always favors the prosecutor. For a no indict to be returned the evidence has to be overwhelming.

You are just speculating based on viewing a video and no other evidence.
 

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we live in a world where you will do exactly what the government tells you to do or they will kill you.

it's that simple

pay your taxes or you will die

there may not be the death penalty for not paying taxes but don't file taxes for a few years, you'll get a letter one day telling you to comply, you throw out the demand letter and you keep getting them over a period of time. then one day the police show up to take you to court, you resist and they end up killing you because you were a threat to them. all perfectly legal.

that is what happened to this guy, he was selling smokes without paying the taxes on them, they came to arrest him, he did not comply, he is dead... perfectly legal.
 
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we live in a world where you will do exactly what the government tells you to do or they will kill you.

it's that simple

pay your taxes or you will die

there may not be the death penalty for not paying taxes but don't file taxes for a few years, you'll get a letter one day telling you to comply, you throw out the demand letter and you keep getting them over a period of time. then one day the police show up to take you to court, you resist and they end up killing you because you were a threat to them. all perfectly legal.

that is what happened to this guy, he was selling smokes without paying the taxes on them, they came to arrest him, he did not comply, he is dead... perfectly legal.

No one in their right mind thinks that the officer intended for that man to die that day.
 

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No one in their right mind thinks that the officer intended for that man to die that day.


that's correct

but everything is set up for law enforcement to easily kill non-compliant people.

no one is saying that cops go out looking to kill people.

what happens is people that don't comply get killed, someone should look up the stats on all situations where a cop or cops kill someone it was in an instance of non-compliance. didn't put hands on head, reached for something, ran away, didn't follow instructions.

in the suburbs kids are taught to do what the cops tell them to do and to fully comply
in the hood kids 'keep it real'

doesn't matter if you're black or white, if you don't listen to the cops, you're gonna eat bullets or the nightstick
 

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