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Obama spoke in the White House about the South Carolina massacre in which nine people lost their lives. Here are his remarks in full:


Good afternoon, everybody. This morning, I spoke with, and Vice President Biden spoke with, Mayor Joe Riley and other leaders of Charleston to express our deep sorrow over the senseless murders that took place last night.
Michelle and I know several members of Emanuel AME Church. We knew their pastor, Reverend Clementa Pinckney, who, along with eight others, gathered in prayer and fellowship and was murdered last night. And to say our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families, and their community doesn’t say enough to convey the heartache and the sadness and the anger that we feel.

Any death of this sort is a tragedy. Any shooting involving multiple victims is a tragedy. There is something particularly heartbreaking about the death happening in a place in which we seek solace and we seek peace, in a place of worship.
Mother Emanuel is, in fact, more than a church. This is a place of worship that was founded by African Americans seeking liberty. This is a church that was burned to the ground because its worshipers worked to end slavery. When there were laws banning all-black church gatherings, they conducted services in secret. When there was a nonviolent movement to bring our country closer in line with our highest ideals, some of our brightest leaders spoke and led marches from this church’s steps. This is a sacred place in the history of Charleston and in the history of America.

The FBI is now on the scene with local police, and more of the Bureau’s best are on the way to join them. The Attorney General has announced plans for the FBI to open a hate crime investigation. We understand that the suspect is in custody. And I’ll let the best of law enforcement do its work to make sure that justice is served.

Until the investigation is complete, I’m necessarily constrained in terms of talking about the details of the case. But I don’t need to be constrained about the emotions that tragedies like this raise. I’ve had to make statements like this too many times. Communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. We don’t have all the facts, but we do know that, once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. Now is the time for mourning and for healing.

But let’s be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency. And it is in our power to do something about it. I say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. But it would be wrong for us not to acknowledge it. And at some point it’s going to be important for the American people to come to grips with it, and for us to be able to shift how we think about the issue of gun violence collectively.

The fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark part of our history. This is not the first time that black churches have been attacked. And we know that hatred across races and faiths pose a particular threat to our democracy and our ideals.

The good news is I am confident that the outpouring of unity and strength and fellowship and love across Charleston today, from all races, from all faiths, from all places of worship indicates the degree to which those old vestiges of hatred can be overcome. That, certainly, was Dr. King’s hope just over 50 years ago, after four little girls were killed in a bombing in a black church in Birmingham, Alabama.

He said they lived meaningful lives, and they died nobly. “They say to each of us,” Dr. King said, “black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. They say to us that we must be concerned not merely with [about] who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers. Their death says to us that we must work passionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the American Dream.

“And if one will hold on, he will discover that God walks with him, and that God is able to lift you from the fatigue of despair to the buoyancy of hope, and transform dark and desolate valleys into sunlit paths of inner peace.”
Reverend Pinckney and his congregation understood that spirit. Their Christian faith compelled them to reach out not just to members of their congregation, or to members of their own communities, but to all in need. They opened their doors to strangers who might enter a church in search of healing or redemption.

Mother Emanuel church and its congregation have risen before –- from flames, from an earthquake, from other dark times -– to give hope to generations of Charlestonians. And with our prayers and our love, and the buoyancy of hope, it will rise again now as a place of peace.

Thank you.







The Monkseaton shootings occurred on 30 April 1989 in Monkseaton, North Tyneside ENGLAND when Robert Sartin killed one man and left fourteen other people injured during a twenty-minute shooting spree.
 

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Obama spoke in the White House about the South Carolina massacre in which nine people lost their lives. Here are his remarks in full:


Good afternoon, everybody. This morning, I spoke with, and Vice President Biden spoke with, Mayor Joe Riley and other leaders of Charleston to express our deep sorrow over the senseless murders that took place last night.
Michelle and I know several members of Emanuel AME Church. We knew their pastor, Reverend Clementa Pinckney, who, along with eight others, gathered in prayer and fellowship and was murdered last night. And to say our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families, and their community doesn’t say enough to convey the heartache and the sadness and the anger that we feel.

Any death of this sort is a tragedy. Any shooting involving multiple victims is a tragedy. There is something particularly heartbreaking about the death happening in a place in which we seek solace and we seek peace, in a place of worship.
Mother Emanuel is, in fact, more than a church. This is a place of worship that was founded by African Americans seeking liberty. This is a church that was burned to the ground because its worshipers worked to end slavery. When there were laws banning all-black church gatherings, they conducted services in secret. When there was a nonviolent movement to bring our country closer in line with our highest ideals, some of our brightest leaders spoke and led marches from this church’s steps. This is a sacred place in the history of Charleston and in the history of America.

The FBI is now on the scene with local police, and more of the Bureau’s best are on the way to join them. The Attorney General has announced plans for the FBI to open a hate crime investigation. We understand that the suspect is in custody. And I’ll let the best of law enforcement do its work to make sure that justice is served.

Until the investigation is complete, I’m necessarily constrained in terms of talking about the details of the case. But I don’t need to be constrained about the emotions that tragedies like this raise. I’ve had to make statements like this too many times. Communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. We don’t have all the facts, but we do know that, once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. Now is the time for mourning and for healing.

But let’s be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency. And it is in our power to do something about it. I say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. But it would be wrong for us not to acknowledge it. And at some point it’s going to be important for the American people to come to grips with it, and for us to be able to shift how we think about the issue of gun violence collectively.

The fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark part of our history. This is not the first time that black churches have been attacked. And we know that hatred across races and faiths pose a particular threat to our democracy and our ideals.

The good news is I am confident that the outpouring of unity and strength and fellowship and love across Charleston today, from all races, from all faiths, from all places of worship indicates the degree to which those old vestiges of hatred can be overcome. That, certainly, was Dr. King’s hope just over 50 years ago, after four little girls were killed in a bombing in a black church in Birmingham, Alabama.

He said they lived meaningful lives, and they died nobly. “They say to each of us,” Dr. King said, “black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. They say to us that we must be concerned not merely with [about] who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers. Their death says to us that we must work passionately and unrelentingly for the realization of the American Dream.

“And if one will hold on, he will discover that God walks with him, and that God is able to lift you from the fatigue of despair to the buoyancy of hope, and transform dark and desolate valleys into sunlit paths of inner peace.”
Reverend Pinckney and his congregation understood that spirit. Their Christian faith compelled them to reach out not just to members of their congregation, or to members of their own communities, but to all in need. They opened their doors to strangers who might enter a church in search of healing or redemption.

Mother Emanuel church and its congregation have risen before –- from flames, from an earthquake, from other dark times -– to give hope to generations of Charlestonians. And with our prayers and our love, and the buoyancy of hope, it will rise again now as a place of peace.

Thank you.







The Monkseaton shootings occurred on 30 April 1989 in Monkseaton, North Tyneside ENGLAND when Robert Sartin killed one man and left fourteen other people injured during a twenty-minute shooting spree.

Interesting how you don't highlight, color and bold the KEY statement in Obama's speech that came right after the part you highlighted, colored and Bold, SB. Obama was absolutely correct in his brilliant speech, but unfortunately our Country is not as Advanced as England in this regard, and won't be anytime soon.
 

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Interesting how you don't highlight, color and bold the KEY statement in Obama's speech that came right after the part you highlighted, colored and Bold, SB. Obama was absolutely correct in his brilliant speech, but unfortunately our Country is not as Advanced as England in this regard, and won't be anytime soon.

2 SEPARATE SENTENCES.


SENTENCE ONE.
But let’s be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.


He is referring to advanced countries. He his wrong here as pointed out it does occur in advanced countries like England.


SENTENCE TWO.

It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency.

He now refers to other places and not the advanced countries as in his first sentence.
 

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2 SEPARATE SENTENCES.


SENTENCE ONE.
But let’s be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.


He is referring to advanced countries. He his wrong here as pointed out it does occur in advanced countries like England. 2 SEPARATE AND DISTINCT SENTENCES. That is why there is a Full stop.


SENTENCE TWO.

It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency.

He now refers to other places and not the advanced countries as in his first sentence.



Otherwise he would simply have said, that it does not happen in other advanced countries with this frequency.


Lets not distort his speech to suit ones beliefs.
 

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Interesting how you don't highlight, color and bold the KEY statement in Obama's speech that came right after the part you highlighted, colored and Bold, SB. Obama was absolutely correct in his brilliant speech, but unfortunately our Country is not as Advanced as England in this regard, and won't be anytime soon.


Not a brilliant speech. Apart from the incorrect statement already highlighted he continues to be divisive in referring to the "community"


"And to say our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families, and their community doesn’t say enough to convey the heartache and the sadness and the anger that we feel."


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Communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times"



He just does not get it

Every time a Black refers to “the community”, which definitely doesn't include Whites, they put another brick in the wall between themselves and their fellow Americans.

It is precisely because too many Blacks have stayed within “the community”, instead of joining wider society, that we are in this horrendous mess.








 

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Obama was absolutely correct in his brilliant speech, but unfortunately our Country is not as Advanced as England in this regard, and won't be anytime soon.


The only thing this proves is that Obumbles is as dumb and clueless as you are.
 

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Guesser wrong again. The woman who spotted the car and informed the police saw the description on Fox News. She felt God used her and that was Divine Inspiration that gave her the strength to do what she did. Religion did play a part in all of this and people like Guesser refuse to see it as a piece of the puzzle. What a put down. Race was obviously a factor but in the end religion turned it around. The fact those people were killed inside a church is very distrubring but it appears that in the end a believer trumped a non believer. Racism is not a factor in religion but once again Guesser doesn't get it and he never will. Thank God for Fox News.
 

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Watching the right wing wackos here comment on this tragedy is funny, sad and disturbing all at the same time. Never seen people this clueless......it has to be an act....nobody can be this clueless in real life.
 

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What kills more people?

People killed by a drive-by in the United states OR an African American murdered by a white person because of race.

Just the media stirring the pot and making money! Why report and make an issue of a much bigger problem, when you can find a small problem here and there, and blow it up and make huge $$ while separating Americans even further.

NFL, there are certain stories that gain more traction in the press. This is one of those stories. It's unique.

A drive by shooting is not unique but if 10 people died in a drive by, it makes it more of a story.
 

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Guesser wrong again. The woman who spotted the car and informed the police saw the description on Fox News. She felt God used her and that was Divine Inspiration that gave her the strength to do what she did. Religion did play a part in all of this and people like Guesser refuse to see it as a piece of the puzzle. What a put down. Race was obviously a factor but in the end religion turned it around. The fact those people were killed inside a church is very distrubring but it appears that in the end a believer trumped a non believer. Racism is not a factor in religion but once again Guesser doesn't get it and he never will. Thank God for Fox News.

Yeah, what if there isn't a god and it just so happens she saw the car because she saw the car?
 

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Watching the right wing wackos here comment on this tragedy is funny, sad and disturbing all at the same time. Never seen people this clueless......it has to be an act....nobody can be this clueless in real life.

remove "right wing wackos" and insert "left wing wackos" and you got it lol. Thank God for Fox News.
 

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remove "right wing wackos" and insert "left wing wackos" and you got it lol. Thank God for Fox News.
You are mentally insane. You're thanking God for a lie factory. The world is gonna be able to progress and be a much better place when your 70 year old generation is gone.
 

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Obama is one of the dumber people to ever hold elective office. He is without a doubt the most intellectually lazy President of the modern era.

77 People were killed in a mass shooting in Norway and guesser is saying the President is right.

Hysterical.
 

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Yeah, what if there isn't a god and it just so happens she saw the car because she saw the car?

I am only repeating what she said. She brought God into the equation not me. I have not been to church in over 40 years (grew up Catholic) so I have no iron in the fire. It is what it is (I guess that depends on how you define is). The funny thing is she saw it all on Fox News. The tards say Fox has nothing to do with news. LOL
 

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By the way, you have to love how stupid the Obama talking point of "we can do something about it!" is.

Do, what, exactly? Note the "do something" is never elaborated. This shooters father broke federal law when he gave him the gun.

But of course idiots like guesser, who want to ban guns entirely just like other "civilized nations" cheer this idiocy on.

Obama is so ignorant about this topic I don't even know what he addresses it.

PS: My favorite part about the Obama era is all the racial healing.
 

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How can you demean police and then push for gun control and have police having the only guns. Duh
 

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We complain about 1 instance where 9 people were killed... but lets not forget about the mass killings in Chicago.

June to Date
Shot & Killed: 29
Shot & Wounded: 143
Total Shot: 172
Total Homicides: 31

Week in Progress (6/14 – 6/20)
Shot & Killed: 10
Shot & Wounded: 42
Total Shot: 52
Total Homicides: 11

Year To Date
Shot & Killed: 175
Shot & Wounded: 988
Total Shot: 1163
Total Homicides: 203

Forget about complaining and reporting and fixing the cancer eating you alive... lets focus on the ingrown hair.

http://heyjackass.com/category/2015-chicago-crime-murder-stats/
 

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N.C. woman who spotted massacre suspect: God worked through me

By Steve Almasy, CNN
Updated 11:10 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2015
| Video Source: CNN











Story highlights


  • A woman who worked at a florist shop spotted the suspect's car but didn't believe at first it was him
  • Debbie Dills followed Dylann Roof while her boss called police
  • She says God put her in position where she could help catch the alleged killer





(CNN)Debbie Dills was driving to work Thursday mid-morning with the terrible news about the church massacre stirring constantly in her mind.

She had learned of the shooting deaths of nine people in Charleston, South Carolina, after she left her North Carolina church Wednesday night.
She saw the people on TV praying, asking God to help someone find the killer.
Dills, hundreds of miles away, believes God used her to answer those prayers.
The 51-year-old woman was driving along a four-lane U.S. highway about 10:30 a.m. Thursday when she spotted Dylann Roof driving a black Hyundai toward the town of Kings Mountain.
"I don't know what drew my attention to the car," she told CNN's Don Lemon. She saw it had a South Carolina license plate. "In my mind I'm thinking, 'That can't be.' ... I never dreamed that it would be the car."
But she thought the driver was the same man whose photos had been on the news as the suspect. She called her boss at the florist shop, Todd Frady, and told him she thought she might be following the alleged killer. She pulled off the road to ask Frady what she should do.
He got on the phone with the Kings Mountain police while Dills started driving again in an attempt to catch the Hyundai so she could report the license plate number.
She caught up with Roof at a stoplight and was right behind him.
"I was very nervous," she said.
Roof continued west on U.S. 74 into Shelby. Dills had now been following the suspect for more than 30 miles. Shelby police caught up with Roof, pulled him over and took him into custody.
Dills told the Shelby Star that she was late for work Thursday. It put her in the right place to answer the prayers of the people in Charleston, she said.
She told CNN she was a vessel through which God worked.
"It was Him from the time I left my house this morning. It was Him that made me look at that car. It was God who made this happen," she told Lemon. "God heard the prayers of those people."
Roof never adjusted his speed or driving she told the Star.
"He wasn't doing anything abnormal," she said. "He wasn't driving slow. He was just driving. He just kept going."


(no mention of Fox News LOL)

 

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[h=1]Va. gun crime drops again as firearm sales soar[/h]
It is easier to purchase and carry a firearm in Virginia than it is in Washington, DC.

Yet Virginia doesn't have the gun crime rate of Washington, DC.

Idiot guessers solution to this is to ban guns.

Fucking hilarious.
 

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