What’s in the line? Who is the rigged side? No need to be so cryptic
Why not start a thread every time a game is clearly not on the up and up? You would be the #1 tout in the world and rich beyond your wildest dreams
Lol @ Joe conflating what this guy is saying with steam or square books fading the public 15-20 years ago
Fixed sports all around the Globe.....too much money is involved for it NOT to happen.
Here is a sampling
List of match-fixing incidents - Wikipedia
Oh I know lol. Don't gotta tell meFixed sports all around the Globe.....too much money is involved for it NOT to happen.
Here is a sampling
List of match-fixing incidents - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
And fwiw gaming commission tracks casino hold and sports is always around 5-7%, the 4.55% on -110 edge with some parlay edge mixed in
The legal books in new states do better because they got the fish hooked on that SGP BS but unless you think the commission/casinos are lying on a part of their business that is so small (they aren’t), you’re wrong that they’re rigging games for gambling based using any logic whatsoever
if you think the big dogs are fudging that info then whatever, can’t really help you
The legal books in new states do better because they got the fish hooked on that SGP BS but unless you think the commission/casinos are lying on a part of their business that is so small (they aren’t), you’re wrong that they’re rigging games for gambling based using any logic whatsoever
if you think the big dogs are fudging that info then whatever, can’t really help you
Let's start slowly from the top so even the crayon scribblers can keep up.
Oddsmakers don't know anything. And bookmakers don't know shit either, other than the distribution of money on each team, which CAN be valuable in certain circumstances.
How do I know this?
Because over the years I've had plenty conversations with both parties, both publicly and privately on forums such as these thinking I could pick their brains and extract some golden nugget of information.
But then... they'd be rich, right?
So no dice in analyzing virgin numbers.
Let's move further along to the next segment of the "market" ? LINE MOVES.
A line moves for a myriad of reasons. Sometimes injuries, sometimes large whale wagers, sometimes a betting syndicate (steam), sometimes the collective betting public...some can be useful, most are not.
THIS is where INSIDE INFORMATION comes into play - the nitty gritty of this thread.
My Dutch contact was feeding me RIGGED Euro soccer at the lower leagues which not only produced crazy steam, they won at an obscene rate. Was it the refs? Players? Coaches? Who cares! I just played'em!
So it goes deeper...dare I say, secret criminal organized activity you and I don't have access to. It has to be "secret" (unconfirmed/unverified) because it's ILLEGAL. Duh!
That's what rigging is - CRIMINAL...a concept the rubes celebrating "81 million votes!" STILL don't understand.
Do you KNOW the REASON BEHIND EVERY SINGLE LINE MOVE on every single game?
Of course not! Which means...you're still missing the key piece to the puzzle!
So stop talking shit and listen to the information presented. For it would seem that no matter how many players/quotes/whistleblowers/insiders we present you with, you lash out with cognitive dissonance.
"That's crazy talk!"...blah, blah..
Neither intelligent nor reality.
Yes, some games are RIGGED! And yes, YOU don't know about them!
Ouch! I bet that hurt your ego!
The proof has been presented...as far back as the original documentary in the beginning of this thread.
Deal with it.
Lol, you just said nothing of value or nothing anyone disagrees with
“gee golly there might be some rigged games here and there that we don’t know about”
no shit, who cares
your boy is saying the bookies he knows win every year so that means it’s rigged lol. You know this is dumb, atleast admit that and there’s some common ground here
that and taking an Arian foster joke literally is what we’re laughing at
“gee golly there might be some rigged games here and there that we don’t know about”
no shit, who cares
your boy is saying the bookies he knows win every year so that means it’s rigged lol. You know this is dumb, atleast admit that and there’s some common ground here
that and taking an Arian foster joke literally is what we’re laughing at
You think people in this thread don’t know every sporting event isn’t on the up and up or all avail info isn’t known prior to lock? Or lines move Sunday morning based on steam info that has to do with anything from an injury to the coach caught his wife fucking the ball boy?
Haha cmon dude
That’s all your point is? That’s as safe and cookie cutter as it gets
You went from Marrone telling Ramsey the script says they gotta lose to THAT? Talk about curbing that enthusiasm.
I guess you and I don’t disagree on much based on your new more tame opinion, that’s good
Haha cmon dude
That’s all your point is? That’s as safe and cookie cutter as it gets
You went from Marrone telling Ramsey the script says they gotta lose to THAT? Talk about curbing that enthusiasm.
I guess you and I don’t disagree on much based on your new more tame opinion, that’s good
My boy? C'mon. He's a bookie - so he has SOME pieces of the puzzle, which non-bookies such as yourself don't have.
From my outside observation over many years, I would say the ones most likely to be rigged are those with the most lopsided distribution of money leading up to that week's slate of games.
That's how they select them, in order to maximize profits. Hence the "Teams Bookies Need The Most" phenomena not only covering the spread, but winning the game SU! Those types of games exceeded whatever (EV+) I would gain from a line 1.5-2 pts off the market mean. There's other explanation, which is why I stopped questioning it and just played them SU as well!
So that's one example of rigging from where I sit...but again, I'm not privy to what happens on the field or in the locker room.
Further, I would say any kind of rigging with players would have been more common 30-40+ years ago when salaries were a pittance compared to what they are now.
In other words, today's 40 million QB isn't going to take a back alley bribe and risk his career...so that makes sense.
Which leaves the zebras as today's weakest link and most vulnerable..
Again, think of all the disgruntled sports bettors over the years bitching because goddawful refs?
THINK..
In my time on this earth, I’ve found most bookies to be rubes when it comes to sports betting but they can deal -110 so they thought they were a lot smarter than they were. Surprised you would give them that much credit.
Shading lines and moving on air or paying for software to do so is easy. Being willing to break the law/tolerate idiots telling you their mother has cancer so can’t pay this week is the hard part.
If the “teams bookies need the most” thing had any large scale evidence behind it, it would show up in data since so much bookmarking is run by large corporations nowadays. There would be threads on boards like this “Most likely rigged games this week” that people would be piling into.
Who cares if bettors think they got screwed? It’s bettors lol, people think slot machines and blackjack are rigged, as if you would ever need to do that.
You’re most basic point that not everything in life is on the up and up is obviously true but you just make such wild extrapolations nowadays it’s tough to even bother parsing through but I digress
Joe you don’t see how you open yourself up to critique and hurt the merit of your arguments when you post fake Jalen ramsey memes about a script?
That’s a far cry from a ref having a cocaine addiction and going through divorce thus he calls a penalty on the bengals to put the chiefs in the superbowl, which is atleast theoretically plausible
That’s a far cry from a ref having a cocaine addiction and going through divorce thus he calls a penalty on the bengals to put the chiefs in the superbowl, which is atleast theoretically plausible
