New Season, so a new thread for the Fraud/Tout Matt Zylbert

[CatsOverUnders]

PICKS RECORD DETAILS


Date

Matchup

Selection

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Posted Time

Results

07/03/14 Texas at Baltimore Under (7.5, +100) Caesars/Harrah's 07/03/14 18:02:35 Pending
07/03/14 Toronto at Oakland Under (8, -105) Sportsbook.ag 07/03/14 20:04:01 Pending

Curious to see how the Tex/Bal game turns out.

IF it wins, do they keep it as a WIN, or if it loses do they keep it as a "NO PLAY" since listed pitchers didn't start.

Very cute to change the subject and avoid responding to everything I addressed towards you. So I'm still waiting for a response there.

As for the situation you brought up, no matter what happens, it gets graded as a "NO PLAY, OFF PITCHER," since Yu Darvish was unfortunately randomly scratched during that lengthy rain delay before first pitch. It's a damn shame, too, as I made an excellent call regarding Wei-Yin Chen (I wrote a lot about him in my beautifully-written 350-word article for the game), who was excellent tonight, and had Darvish pitched, it surely would have been yet another under victory.

This happened once earlier in the year where a Tanner Roark game of mine (One of my top three sleepers this year along with James Paxton and David Hale. One of the best calls in the country regarding ANY player in baseball this year, as many have told me personally. Latched onto him immediately last year, too, well before anyone had even heard of him) on April 3rd, which you can see was graded as "OFF PITCHER" because as Gambling 101 dictates in over/unders, both listed pitchers have to start.

So, NFLTrends, are you going to respond to the main points that I brought up once again concerning you? Here it is again:

Hmm, there he goes again with one of his old recycled, ignorant comments that makes him look like a moron -- just like this entire thread (And last year's thread on this same topic, too, for that matter).

As has already been explained, why do *ALL* "touts" get classified as such? You still never explained that one, smart one.

Are MOST "touts" scum? Obviously. That is clearly the case, and I'm tired of beating a dead horse because I've said this and agreed with you on that multiple times.

But are ALL "touts" scum? Uhh... do you not see that I'm living proof that this sentiment is completely and hilariously false? In fact, it's a comment that can be only be made out of pure jealousy and nothing more. Let's recap:

Matt Zylbert's first year at Vegas Insider (2013): Wildly successful, finished FIRST in the company during the regular season for overall money and over/unders; up thousands at the end of the season.
Matt Zylbert's second year at Vegas Insider (2014): Wildly successful, currently a marvelous 128-97-11 (56.9%) on the year, one of the best records in the country (once again) for baseball over/unders. Very close to being back in first for over/unders for the company yet again.

So how exactly does that classify as "scum" you weirdo? Because I'm once again winning for my clients and myself at an enormously successful rate? Please enlighten us. You STILL continue to ignore this very important main and critical point. And you also STILL fail to acknowledge the point that I've made countless times where if I wasn't this tremendous, I wouldn't have taken the job/kept the job being one of the main top guys at nationally-renowned Vegas Insider.

P.S. You have the track record in football to MAYBE get hired somewhere but I know exactly why you would never do it: You wouldn't be able to handle the pressure. Being a professional sports gambler and having a lot of people pay BIG money for your picks and depending on you on a nightly basis is VERY overwhelming and is the main issue that humbles most that enter this business. I think the reason you hate on it is because you know you wouldn't be able to handle that part of the job. Winning for others regularly is a HUUUUUUGE responsibility when many people are shelling out hundreds of dollars for your services... I think your reasoning for not wanting to get involved is because you know you can't handle the pressure. Nothing wrong with that, as just about everyone who enters this job FAILS because of that very reason. And based on your character that you've exhibited over the years here, I really don't think you could ever handle it, to be truthful.

By the way, why did you stop keep tracking of your losing baseball record, NFLTrends? Care to enlighten us exactly how many thousands you're down this year? (For a look at how awful he was doing in baseball this year, go to NFLTrends' "Started Threads" history LOLOLOL). You do know that only true losers and frauds STOP keep tracking of their records during the year, right? Well, that's exactly what you've done. Explain that one.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

Your Cin-SD was 6 but not -105. You did not bet that. That line was -120 or -130. You have a lot of losses with reduced juice. I know you did not get that number. You don't even bet you just give out those games. I am not jealous of you, I hate fakes. I can give you other mistakes in your record but it will not matter. You are dishonest. You don't have accounts at all those offshore books and Las Vegas to get your bets in but you use them to post the best number out there. Fake record keeping= fake handicapper=Zylbert. I dare you to get a bookie and bet your games and give us the real record of your season.

So now you say I don't even bet my own games??? Lol, despite the fact it is this exact reason how I even got into my current position was from betting my own games and maintaining game logs for every single season? Why wouldn't I bet my own games if I'm constantly one of the few people in the country who are even in the elite 55-58% tile every year??

See, this is why I'm really starting to hate the internet when any nameless, faceless moron can make up a character on a message board and just say whatever he wants without doing any research whatsoever. If you followed me during ANY of my time here on The RX, you'd know that I obviously do take all my games and bet on ace23.com (I have an account there set up by a bookie I know personally, as has always been the case). And again... there's no such thing as a "best number out there" in baseball over/unders when 95% of the time, the number on a game is universally the same at every book. I don't even know why I'm acknowledging a troll who has never even posted a play here and is always talking out of his ass.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

So let's recap what NFLTrends is trying to do here that once again proves what a phony little scumbag he is:

-I bring up several key points such as why NFLTrends instantly stopped keeping track of his MLB betting, which was probably because of his shitty record and the thousands he was already down by the end of April (This after he vowed to "mop the floor" with me before the season LOLOLOLOL that funny quote is still in the beginning of this thread... more proof of what a clueless idiot he is. Maybe that's why he drives a taxi his whole life) and he continues to think "all" "touts" are scum, this despite the fact that I'm making my clients a killing AGAIN at Vegas Insider (In only my second year, remember. And as the youngest person on the roster, while continuing to once again lead the way).

-Oh, and another thing: You still didn't address what I think is the real reason why you hate "touts"... because you know you're simply mentally weak and could never handle the pressure of receiving hundreds/thousands from clients across the country and being depended on literally every single day for 6-7 months in trying to make them money. That's the pressure I deal with -- and obviously, I handle it exceptionally well while still producing one of the best records in over/unders -- but you can't. And you know it, which is the real reason you have such disgust for this occupation. It's okay that you can't handle it and that you'd fail like MOST who try, but to hate on everyone within this occupation? It's pretty hilarious.

-He immediately CHANGES THE SUBJECT and makes another ridiculous accusation about that Rangers/Orioles game that I made an outstanding call on, yet won't get credit for a win there (If it went over, he was ready to bitch "OMG of course they ruled it a 'no play' for you! Dishonest! Tout!" LOLOLOLOL). As much as I deserve a win on that under, I CAN'T CONTROL HOW THE PICK IS GRADED because it's done by automated technology you retard. And thus, it goes in as a "No Play" no matter what.

-So are you going to address the main points I brought to you? We're all waiting, "NFLTrends"

 

[eventhorizon]

The number maybe the same but the money-line on the total is different. You say you bet but you do not seem to know that??? You were a faceless self-promoting wannabe but you have been exposed as a dishonest fraud of a tout. If you bet all of your plays then post your bets so we can see what real numbers you get your bets in at. I am sure you will not do that. I am sure during football you wil be buying more points in an effort to try to get back your God-like statius. HAHAHA. The truth will out MZ.

 

[NFLTrends]

PICKS RECORD DETAILS


Date

Matchup

Selection

Line Source

Posted Time

Results

07/03/14 Texas at Baltimore Under (7.5, +100) Caesars/Harrah's 07/03/14 18:02:35 Pending
07/03/14 Toronto at Oakland Under (8, -105) Sportsbook.ag 07/03/14 20:04:01 Pending

Curious to see how the Tex/Bal game turns out.

IF it wins, do they keep it as a WIN, or if it loses do they keep it as a "NO PLAY" since listed pitchers didn't start.

Wow... just like I thought... They graded it as a WIN... Had it lost, it would have been a NO-PLAY. Every sports book takes all wagers down if starting pitchers don't pitch. BUT, Matt Zylbert grades at a win if it wins anyways... YET if it loses it gets graded as NO PLAY. Lets look at it -

07/03/14 Texas (2) at Baltimore (5) Under (7.5, +100) Caesars/Harrah's 07/03/14 18:02:35 Won (+100) (Starting pitcher didn't start, but it still won, but gets graded as a WIN)

04/03/14 Washington (8) at N.Y. Mets (2) Under (7.0, -110) Caesars/Harrah's 04/03/14 05:24:53 Off Pitcher (Starting pitcher didn't start, and it lost, So it gets graded a an OFF PITCHER)

Very nice record keeping....

 

[CatsOverUnders]

Wow... just like I thought... They graded it as a WIN... Had it lost, it would have been a NO-PLAY. Every sports book takes all wagers down if starting pitchers don't pitch. BUT, Matt Zylbert grades at a win if it wins anyways... YET if it loses it gets graded as NO PLAY. Lets look at it -

07/03/14 Texas (2) at Baltimore (5) Under (7.5, +100) Caesars/Harrah's 07/03/14 18:02:35 Won (+100) (Starting pitcher didn't start, but it still won, but gets graded as a WIN)

04/03/14 Washington (8) at N.Y. Mets (2) Under (7.0, -110) Caesars/Harrah's 04/03/14 05:24:53 Off Pitcher (Starting pitcher didn't start, and it lost, So it gets graded a an OFF PITCHER)

Very nice record keeping....

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

IT SAYS "OFF PITCHER", I only got credit for a 1-0 record last night. Therefore, the game WAS taken down and credited as NOTHING on my record, and as usual, you're being a complete scumbag by making shit up. HEY MODS, how about addressing this already? Why is this clown continued to be allowed to make defamatory statements about me? This is why people complain about The RX dropping in quality when laughingstocks like NFLTrends are continued to run allowed into every forum and just throw around random lies without any credibility whatsoever.

Yes, NFLTrends, CONTINUE to make a complete ass out of yourself in this thread and prove how DELUSIONAL you really are. And continue to display your extreme jealousy for a guy who's probably half your age, yet known and recognized by several thousands more in this industry -- and with good reason.

Very nice behavior......


P.S. Anyone else want to chime in on this? I'm getting bored of making this NFLTrends character look like a dumbass at every turn. Stick to driving taxis, bitch

 

[CatsOverUnders]

Another quick item: Notice how at 7 AM in the morning, NFLTrends is immediately waking up and checking my record. Is that the first thing you do every morning, clown? Do you want to know what I'm having for breakfast also? Do you want to know what BBQ I'm attending this afternoon? Holy shit this guy can't get enough of me. Keep looking up to me and dreaming of being me. It's pretty apparent, isn't it?

Hey NFLTrends, think about the one who is constantly obsessed here. Think about the one who starts the threads. That would be you - the nameless, faceless internet character who wishes he was me and is constantly following me and looking up to me.

Oh, man. Let that resonate.

(And then maybe I'll let you drive me in your taxi to the BBQ I'll be attending, loser)

 

[NFLTrends]

Im a bitch and a loser??

When you are in Vegas, give me a call

 

[NFLTrends]

BTW on my posted plays on the forum I am barely under .500 and still +money.

On my website (Where the plays are always free btw), I am still a tad under .500 and still +money.

Not bad for a guy who isn't a "Professional".

And the game WASNT taken down at 4am this morning (my time), it was showing as a WIN.

 

[NFLTrends]

And this one is for EventHorizon.

I sent an email to VegasInsider before the season asking about the lines the handicappers get and why they get such great lines, and this was the response.


"Our system assigns the best line available at the time they post their pick and have no control of the line source. We show a diverse amount of sports books to give our handicappers the ability to get the best line available.

Good Luck,
Kyle
Marketing Coordinator

VegasInsider "

So as I said before, when Matt gets to pick his lines, he probably see's lines like these:

Detroit/Boston Over 8.5 +100 MGM/Mirage
Detroit/Boston Under 9.5 -117 5Dimes

He gets to cherry pick games that 99% of sports bettors aren't allowed to choose lines from, and gets to buy/sell full points (for his advantage) and it costs nothing.

Not hard to post a record when you have the best lines available on all the games to choose from, without having to actually bet them.

If he would actually play lines from 1 or 2 books (like over 90% of bettors) it would be more reasonable.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

And this one is for EventHorizon.

I sent an email to VegasInsider before the season asking about the lines the handicappers get and why they get such great lines, and this was the response.


"Our system assigns the best line available at the time they post their pick and have no control of the line source. We show a diverse amount of sports books to give our handicappers the ability to get the best line available.

Good Luck,
Kyle
Marketing Coordinator

VegasInsider "

So as I said before, when Matt gets to pick his lines, he probably see's lines like these:

Detroit/Boston Over 8.5 +100 MGM/Mirage
Detroit/Boston Under 9.5 -117 5Dimes

He gets to cherry pick games that 99% of sports bettors aren't allowed to choose lines from, and gets to buy/sell full points (for his advantage) and it costs nothing.

Not hard to post a record when you have the best lines available on all the games to choose from, without having to actually bet them.

If he would actually play lines from 1 or 2 books (like over 90% of bettors) it would be more reasonable.

ARE YOU REALLY LEGITIMATELY RETARDED?

NO, that's not how it is. CLEARLY, you have no idea how baseball over/unders work. 95% of the time, the over/under line for a game is UNIVERSAL, and therefore available at EVERY sports book. Thus, that has NO influence on my record, which is the EXACT SAME with my own bets on all of the over/unders I give my clients. It is NEVER a full run off as you had listed (More deceitfulness and blatant lies from the scumbag NFLTrends; what a shock), as that would be an absolute joke.

Once again, NFLTrends (And eventhorizon, for that matter) is proving he has NO CLUE how baseball over/unders work, which is exactly why he is under .500 in baseball (LOLOLOLOL am I a full 10% points above you?? You're really "mopping the floor" with me this year HAHAHA I think you meant "mop my floor", peasant). The actual number on a game is basically the same everywhere. Again, that obviously has NO influence on my record. And remember, the +/- dollar amount is tabulated based on if EVERY bet were scored to win $100.

Any other ways you could continue to make yourself look like a complete idiot, 'Trends?

 

[NFLTrends]

Since all the lines are universal, then why have you posted picks from over 15 different sport books?

Also, Kyle the VI marketing director lied to me in response to my question?

So the VI staff are liars?

 

[NFLTrends]

And I still make more $$$ every year then you do betting my own plays.

And winning % really has nothing to do with being a successful sports bettor.

Who is a successful sports bettor?

The guy you won 60% of his bets and is down huge cause he bet huge faves?

Or the guy who hit 45% and is positive cash for the year cause he bet underdogs?

 

[eventhorizon]

Zilbert should be called "MR Clueless". He says there is no such thing as a best number??? Is he really that stupid? Well I guess that is why he sells his picks.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

And winning % really has nothing to do with being a successful sports bettor.

Who is a successful sports bettor?

The guy you won 60% of his bets and is down huge cause he bet huge faves?

Or the guy who hit 45% and is positive cash for the year cause he bet underdogs?

Uh, that is completely irrelevant to what I do.

For the 194718th time (Since you're like a brick wall, in that every correct point made goes through one of your ears and out the other), I do ONLY over/unders, in which there is really no favorite OR underdog, as everything averages out to the standard -110 overall. Thus, winning percentage is EXTREMELY crucial if everything averages out to -110, because then you know a high percentage will ensure significant profits, especially if there is flat-betting.

Do you have any clue about gambling? Clearly, you have no clue how over/unders work.

 

[NFLTrends]

Hey matt, can you do me a favor and take a screenshot of the page where the lines are where you make your picks. I just want to see if I am right or not for peace of mind. Thanks

 

[NFLTrends]

Hey matt, can you do me a favor and take a screenshot of the page where the lines are where you make your picks. I just want to see if I am right or not for peace of mind. Thanks

Reason I am asking, is because I went through Anthony Dinero (another totals handicapper on the VI Site) and you guys get 2 completely different lines on quite a few games. Here are some examples:

04/02/14 L.A. Dodgers (5) at San Diego (1) Over (6.5, -120) The Greek 04/02/14 20:58:55 Lost (-120) (ANTHONY's)
04/02/14 L.A. Dodgers (5) at San Diego (1) Under (7, -120) 5Dimes 04/02/14 18:39:11 Won (+100) (Yours)

In that example, you were able to buy a full 1/2 point and it cost you nothing

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04/13/14 Cleveland (3) at Chi. White Sox (4) Over (8.5, -115) 5Dimes 04/13/14 13:06:52 Lost (-115) (Anthony)
04/13/14 Cleveland (3) at Chi. White Sox (4) Under (9.0, -115) Bookmaker 04/13/14 13:09:10 Won (+100) (You)

On this example, not only did you get an extra 1/2 point ... AMAZINGLY... IT COST YOU NOTHING!!

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04/15/14 Pittsburgh (5) at Cincinnati (7) Over (7, -110) 5Dimes 04/15/14 14:27:28 Won (+100) (Anthony)
04/15/14 Pittsburgh (5) at Cincinnati (7) Under (7.5, -120) 5Dimes 04/15/14 13:01:26 Lost (-120) (You)

Well, you bought a half point on this one.. yet it only cost you 10cents

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The point I am making, is that whenever you and another handicapper are on different sides of a game, THERE IS A DISCREPANCY in the lines, each and every game you are opposite of each other.

That's why I was asking for a screenshot of the lines page where you put in your picks, just so we can see what the lines are you are getting for both sides of the game. To see if I am right (which I am 99% sure I am). Cause definitely those games I posted, along with every other game a handicapper is opposite of you, there is a huge discrepancy.

So, prove me wrong.... Post a screenshot that proves I am wrong and I will call you "THE KING" of Over/Unders and follow you around on the forums kissing your ass for all eternity, and never say another bad word about you.

Cause you would love this more than anything... and posting a screenshot is so easy to do. Yet if you don't.... we know who is right...

 

[NFLTrends]

Yes it is comical. He says he makes money for his clients but I doubt his clients can get these lines. He adds a nickle or a dime or a half run to most of his games. A bad way to make yourself look good. Today he shaved 10 cents off of a line.

Trying to get to the bottom of this if you read the previous posts... Seems he does get free 1/2 points and such when he and another handicapper are on opposite sides (EVERY GAME and there are tons if you go through Anthony Dineros totals and Matts), which is really shady that both lines, on either side there is a 1/2 point to a full run difference for very little or no extra cost.

Waiting on the screenshot to prove me wrong....

 

[eventhorizon]

He also believes the over/under line is universal 95% of the time. It does not look like that is true. Also he shaves 10 cents off most of the games where he does not get those free 1/2 runs. Almost 10 units with shaving the line, plus who knows how many with those free 1/2 runs. I would be happy if he would put up a screenshot of the lines he gets on his bets. He says he bets his games. Tout record-keeping never changes.

 

[NFLTrends]

It's literary EVERY game they are opposite on there is a 1/2 or more difference in their favor of whatever side they are playing, with no extra juice paid.