New Season, so a new thread for the Fraud/Tout Matt Zylbert

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Hey says people are jealous of him. I am jealous of how he keeps getting all those free 1/2 runs. Oh wait, it is just fake record keeping.
 
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Reason I am asking, is because I went through Anthony Dinero (another totals handicapper on the VI Site) and you guys get 2 completely different lines on quite a few games. Here are some examples:

04/02/14 L.A. Dodgers (5) at San Diego (1) Over (6.5, -120) The Greek 04/02/14 20:58:55 Lost (-120) (ANTHONY's)
04/02/14 L.A. Dodgers (5) at San Diego (1) Under (7, -120) 5Dimes 04/02/14 18:39:11 Won (+100) (Yours)

In that example, you were able to buy a full 1/2 point and it cost you nothing

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04/13/14 Cleveland (3) at Chi. White Sox (4) Over (8.5, -115) 5Dimes 04/13/14 13:06:52 Lost (-115) (Anthony)
04/13/14 Cleveland (3) at Chi. White Sox (4) Under (9.0, -115) Bookmaker 04/13/14 13:09:10 Won (+100) (You)

On this example, not only did you get an extra 1/2 point ... AMAZINGLY... IT COST YOU NOTHING!!

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04/15/14 Pittsburgh (5) at Cincinnati (7) Over (7, -110) 5Dimes 04/15/14 14:27:28 Won (+100) (Anthony)
04/15/14 Pittsburgh (5) at Cincinnati (7) Under (7.5, -120) 5Dimes 04/15/14 13:01:26 Lost (-120) (You)

Well, you bought a half point on this one.. yet it only cost you 10cents

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The point I am making, is that whenever you and another handicapper are on different sides of a game, THERE IS A DISCREPANCY in the lines, each and every game you are opposite of each other.

That's why I was asking for a screenshot of the lines page where you put in your picks, just so we can see what the lines are you are getting for both sides of the game. To see if I am right (which I am 99% sure I am). Cause definitely those games I posted, along with every other game a handicapper is opposite of you, there is a huge discrepancy.

So, prove me wrong.... Post a screenshot that proves I am wrong and I will call you "THE KING" of Over/Unders and follow you around on the forums kissing your ass for all eternity, and never say another bad word about you.

Cause you would love this more than anything... and posting a screenshot is so easy to do. Yet if you don't.... we know who is right...

I want to make sure of this -- the part I put in bold from your quote above -- because there have been MULTIPLE examples where you wanted me to post a screenshot of something to prove myself being RIGHT (Ex. That Matt Schaub prop bet from the beginning of the year that you and a couple of others questioned; the exact amounts of my NFL win total bets that you questioned), and I have done just that every single time. Yes, every single time you asked for a screenshot, I obliged and proved myself right EVERY SINGLE TIME, just as I have done with every rebuttal to each of your idiotic and unnecessary statements about me (Although, for the 194827th time, I will say your statements are correct concerning most professional handicappers).

So I will gladly post one snapshot of an example of how I post an over/under for my clients (Several of which have already wisely purchased my $399 2nd Half package... maybe you should do the same for guaranteed profits) if you actually agree to the above comment you made, since you're a pretty sneaky person that is hard to trust.

Mods, can we hold him to this statement for when I post a screenshot example? I want this confirmed and acted upon as soon as said snapshot is posted. Deal?

P.S. You should know this about gambling; Lines change throughout the night and day leading up to a game on the very next night. The rare examples you found where a line was different in a game that myself and Dinero took were posted at different times of the day (Hence the legitimacy and significance of the timestamps that are included with each pick), so obviously the line isn't always going to be the same. And I don't "buy" half-runs you clown, I post a pick with whatever the line is presented. There is no "buying" of any half-runs or points (In other sports) allowed. Remember, everything is automated so you only have the option of posting a pick with one line.

P.S.S. Perhaps most importantly, when the snapshot is posted, I want you to acknowledge that *not all touts are scum*, as you infamously always like to claim. It's so annoying how you stick so close to stereotypes that you lump everyone together with every stereotype as if you're so narrow-minded. I don't want you to kiss my ass. I don't want you to admit to I'm "the greatest ever." I just want you to admit that you were WRONG that all "touts" are scum, when I'm living proof that my clients always make money off me regularly (Although, of course, I'm just one of a few where this applies).
 
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Hey says people are jealous of him. I am jealous of how he keeps getting all those free 1/2 runs. Oh wait, it is just fake record keeping.

You realize you could actually get sued for making defamatory incorrect statements that could potentially harm a product/service, right? Do you really want to go there? Just because it's the internet doesn't give you the right to just say any random bunching of words to try and convince yourself its truth. But keep trying, I guess, because obviously you're someone's ghost account and don't actually gamble (I still have yet to see one pick from you on this forum, kid).

(By the way, I still don't see one example of you going through my game log and finding ONE game where the line was ever off from the actual number. Please find me ONE INSTANCE where this applies by comparing it to the actual line history presented by the books... exactly, you can't. Because it's never happened.)

P.S. A LOT of people keep paying me and winning money consistently so why don't you ask them, too? Is someone still jealous that I'm a big star in the industry at such a young age and you're... just another nameless, faceless internet character who will never amount to anything? Maybe that's why you're the one stalking me, talking about me, obsessing over me, etc. ... let it resonate, scrub.

At least NFLTrends has a track record around here and is a respected football handicapper by many (And rightfully so. Never, ever disrespected his abilities). You, however, are literally nothing but a no-name internet character that no one has ever heard of. How does it feel?
 
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You are not a big star in the industry. You are a joke that has been exposed. If you want to take me to court, fine. I can show many examples of your false record keeping. I would love to see you try to present a case. You are trying to promote yourself so maybe you can get hired for football. I am laughing at the clown Zylbert.
 

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NO... go back and look at your record and Anthony Dineros record... EVERY GAME you both are opposite on... yes EVERY GAME..... you guys are getting a 1/2 run or a run to the advantage of whatever side either of you are playing.

You play the Over 7 on the game... he get the Under 7.5

that's EVERY SINGLE GAME where you both are on opposite sides.
 

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Here is something else I don't understand.... Look at the time you put in your play at the VI Website

07/07/14 Kansas City (6) at Tampa Bay (0) Under (7, -115) Sportsbook.ag 07/07/14 18:00:38 = 6pm

But lets look at when the line was actually at 7 -115

07/07/14 03:44:53pm 7 Over +110 Under -130
07/07/14 03:35:14pm 7 Over +105 Under -125
07/07/14 03:18:25pm 7 Over +100 Under -120
07/07/14 08:17:25am 7 Over +105 Under -125
07/07/14 08:17:02am 7 Over +100 Under -120
07/07/14 07:55:49am 7 Over -105 Under -115
07/07/14 06:36:30am 7 Over +100 Under -120
07/07/14 06:27:43am 7 Over -105 Under -115


So you posted your play at 6pm... when the line was at 7 -130

How did you shave it .15 ?
 

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07/07/14 Toronto (2) at L.A. Angels (5) Under (8.5, +100) 5Dimes 07/07/14 21:05:45

Now this is where it gets FUN!!!! No where at all, during 5dimes line movement does it go to 8.5 UNDER +100 ... IT NEVER HAPPENED!!


07/07/14 03:46:09pm 8½ Over -115 Under -105
07/07/14 11:15:59am 8½
07/07/14 05:44:20am 8½ Over -115 Under -105
07/07/14 05:44:18am 8½ Over -118 Under -102
07/07/14 04:43:03am 8½ Over -105 Under -115
07/07/14 01:30:20am 8½
07/06/14 01:15:34pm 8½ Over -115 Under -105
 

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I guess it would be quite fun to post line history everyday... just to prove a point that a lot of the lines he is getting are stale, or didn't exist.
 

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06/27/14 Colorado (2) at Milwaukee (3) Over (9.0, -115) Stations 06/27/14 17:45:32 Lost (-115) <------ Anthony Dinero
06/27/14 Colorado (2) at Milwaukee (3) Under (9.5, -110) Sportsbook.ag 06/27/14 18:59:37 Won (+100) <-------- Matt Zylbert

Not only were you able to get an extra 1/2 a run... The book gave YOU MONEY to do it!!!

EVERY FUCKING SINGLE GAME where you and another handicapper are on different sides, there is a 1/2 and vig difference!! How does that work? Show me a game where you and a handicapper where on different sides, and you both had the EXACT SAME NUMBER!!... You cant!!!

That's why Websites like that are a joke!!

BUT..... All lines are "universal" right??

Fine... show me one... just one..... where you and DINERO were on opposite sides, and had the exact same line
 
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Good work Trends. Zlybert wanted you to find just 1 example. That did not take long. I saw many. Like you said everyday with his lines. Of course he can show a profit if he alters the line and gets a 20% edge. Zylbert is mad because his "BIG CON" got exposed.
 
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Uh, wow you guys are pathetic. Well, eventhorizon more so than NFLTrends because at least Trends gambles and has a track record here. Eventhorizon is someone's ghost account/doesn't even bet so this is probably the last time I'll even address the retard.

As for NFLTrends, I ALREADY said I'd post a screenshot. I ALREADY laid out the conditions of me posting it, since there have ALREADY been multiple instances where you wanted a screenshot of something, and then I would post it to make you look like a COMPLETE MORON each time (Ex. That bizarre Matt Schaub prop bet; NFL Win Total bet amounts, remember?)

So agree to the conditions and I'll gladly post it. Because it gets tiring constantly making you look like an idiot every single time.

Unbelievable that a couple of people can still complain with an elite 135-99-12, 57.7% over/unders record (Not to mention a 56-30-2 run, 65.1% record since June 1). But yeah, keep talking about me/obsessing over me/stalking me... that's why I'm the big star from here who is getting more and more clients (Ironically some thanks to this thread LOLOLOL)... and why you clowns are the nameless, faceless Internet characters that no one has ever heard of.

... Let that resonate.
 
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You are a loser Zylbert. Sure you can win when you get a 1/2 run extra on so many games. You did that in football, buying extra points and now you just add them to your totals. We are not stalking you. This is not your thread. You have still not answered the question of how 2 people at VI keep getting 2 different lines on the same game. You try to spin everything, you are getting more business because of this thread!? LMAO. If what we are saying is helping you then you should love us not want to sue us. You are truely clueless. You are a shameless tout, misleading, dishonest. You are 1 of many. You need help with your lies. Get professional help, there is still time for you.
 
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You are a loser Zylbert. Sure you can win when you get a 1/2 run extra on so many games. You did that in football, buying extra points and now you just add them to your totals. We are not stalking you. This is not your thread. You have still not answered the question of how 2 people at VI keep getting 2 different lines on the same game. You try to spin everything, you are getting more business because of this thread!? LMAO. If what we are saying is helping you then you should love us not want to sue us. You are truely clueless. You are a shameless tout, misleading, dishonest. You are 1 of many. You need help with your lies. Get professional help, there is still time for you.

LOLOLOLOL hilarious. Whatever you say, buddy.

I still am yet to see you find ONE example of a game I took where the line was off from the actual number!... all you have to do is compare the over/under number of EVERY ONE OF MY GAMES to the line history and there was *never* an instance where a game I took had an incorrect line. How come you haven't found even one example yet? Please. Find just one example.

P.S. Did a few more sales today (Two $99 weekly packages, one $399 second half season package) so thanks, I guess. Life is good, especially while I keep winning for myself and my clients at a country-leading rate. My 56-30-2 (65.1%) over/unders record since June 1 might be the best record in the country over that span, just like my 169-99-16 (63.1%) mark from July 6 until the end of the season last year WAS the best record in the entire country over that given span as well. Is someone jealous that they're just a nameless, faceless internet troll that will never be anything in life? Aw, I guess it makes sense why you try so desperately for my attention, bitch.

... And I'm still waiting on NFLTrends to agree to the terms HE STATED HIMSELF if I am to post a screenshot of the actual menu for when a pick is posted on Vegas Insider. Have it right here, just waiting for you to agree to the terms, since we've ridden this rodeo a bunch of times before (With me winning every time, obviously, such as every other time you requested a screenshot from me on a specific subject)
 

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I agree... Post a screen shot that shows the over/under with the same exact line for both sides. Cause EVERY play you and another tout play that are on both sides you somehow get a 1/2 point to your advantage.
 

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And I did post 2 examples of you using a stale line AND a line that never existed in the line history, just scroll up.
 

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07/07/14 Toronto (2) at L.A. Angels (5) Under (8.5, +100) 5Dimes 07/07/14 21:05:45

Now this is where it gets FUN!!!! No where at all, during 5dimes line movement does it go to 8.5 UNDER +100 ... IT NEVER HAPPENED!!


07/07/14 03:46:09pm 8½ Over -115 Under -105
07/07/14 11:15:59am 8½
07/07/14 05:44:20am 8½ Over -115 Under -105
07/07/14 05:44:18am 8½ Over -118 Under -102
07/07/14 04:43:03am 8½ Over -105 Under -115
07/07/14 01:30:20am 8½
07/06/14 01:15:34pm 8½ Over -115 Under -105

So you don't have to scroll
 
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So you don't have to scroll

Are you retarded? The over/under on Happ vs Weaver yesterday was 8.5 ALL DAY. THEREFORE, I didn't "add" an extra half-run or anything you moron. How fucking delusional are you, man?

OH, and if you're referring to the line value -- which has nothing to do with a win-loss record, by the way. Isn't that what we're debating here? -- HERE is the ACTUAL history of the movement of the value, straight from another source, that being Covers (Which is the overrated site that is a distant second behind us):

07/07/14 6:47:43 PM -167 8.5 100
07/07/14 7:37:42 PM -174 8.5 100
07/07/14 9:57:43 PM -177 8.5 100

Go to LINE HISTORY for that game and you'll see it was +100 in the HOURS leading up to game time. It's like you're desperately delusional to try and find something. But as usual... you're wrong. Now what do you have to say?

Any other laughably incorrect statements you want to make that will further your reputation as being a laughingstock around here, clown?

Oh, and don't worry. I will prepare the official actions you must take for when I post the screenshot that proves how you can only choose from ONE FUCKING NUMBER (Obviously) when posting a pick with your article for your clients. Another one I would like to add is that after I prove you wrong yet again, you must include a statement in your signature throughout ALL OF FOOTBALL SEASON saying, "Matt Zylbert was always right all this time. I was always wrong all this time." Simple, right?

Just a simple message to keep in your signature to remind people of how way off base you are and so that everyone knows the truth. I would also like a Mod to participate in this so that you don't back out, and so that this is official. Deal?

Can a Mod please confirm this as well? I bet NFLTrends is starting to sweat, although he should be used to being wrong and having his foot in his mouth all the time.
 
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Trends has posted many lines you have used that were off. I posted earlier #47 of a line that you altered. Try reading.
 
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You say 95% of lines on totals are the same but you use a different line from someone at VI. You want to take people to court for telling the truth saying it hurts your business and the you say you are making more sales. More tout lies. How can you live with yourself? You need help,really.
 
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You say 95% of lines on totals are the same but you use a different line from someone at VI. You want to take people to court for telling the truth saying it hurts your business and the you say you are making more sales. More tout lies. How can you live with yourself? You need help,really.

Huh? I live with myself just fine winning at almost a 58% clip for the season (Which might be best in the country for over/unders this season? Look it up). I live with myself especially fine when I'm in the middle of an outstanding, country-leading 56-30-2 (65.1%) run since June 1. You were saying?

And can you read? Do nameless, faceless internet trolls have the ability to comprehend English? Obviously the lines aren't going to be the same all day, moron. If I post a game for my clients at 9 AM, and then Dinero posts one SEVERAL HOURS LATER at 4 PM, do you really think the value of the picks is going to be EXACTLY the same as it was several hours before??? Are you that retarded? Have you ever heard of line movement? Do you have any knowledge of sports gambling whatsoever??

Or better yet, you're obviously trolling me on purpose so I would appreciate it if a Mod just banned you already. I get the sense this is NFLTrends under another name as well hahaha I guess you're off from today's taxi driving shift so this is your fun time, or your highlight of the day. I guess I'll keep playing along since the extra publicity is only bringing in more sales. Thanks again for that, by the way.
 

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