New Poll: Better player Michael Jordan or LeBron James?

[PatsFan1283]

Kobe's had plenty of failures in his career on big stages. 'Pistons '04, Celtics '08, Mavs '11...And he obviously ran pure to get drafted by the Lakers who had Shaq about to come into 1 of the most dominant runs for a player in NBA history. Bit different than going to the '03 Cavs.

But when he loses, it just comes off as the other team being better than his. Ho hum.

When the 6'8 265 pound guy loses, it always is gonna feel like something went wrong. Even if it he is playing against a team that had a top 3 player join the other best team in the league. When your that much more physically dominant than your opponents, your weaknesses are going to stick out more.

But there is very little to suggest that Kobe is better than LeBron is high leverage situations (and there is basically nothing to suggest he is a better overall player if you're looking at the right areas)

 

[road2perdition]

Lebron is similar to shaq?


The fuck?

Would you ever think before you type? Hache Man clearly meant that his God given size is a major reason he's able to score so easily many times by getting to the basket. That's all he meant and he's right.

 

[road2perdition]

Wait nevermind Hacheman already replied to that. I skimmed through the comments.

Ok well I think I'm done with this thread. Nothing anybody has said has even come close to making an argument about why Lebron is better than Jordan. Not sold. Jordan is better and the burden is on Lebron to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and he clearly hasn't up to this point in his career.

Why's the burden on him? Many reason.

1.He chose to wear number 23, he knew what he was doing he always does.

2.Jordan came before him and was always known as the GOAT.

3. Most of all, Jordan has 6 rings all with 1 team. End of discussion.

He hasn't and will never prove it.

 

[PatsFan1283]

You want to hear more discussion about LeBron/Jordan? Think that 1's been beaten into the ground a bit bro.

Umm, I guess ESPN can probably help you with that.

 

[road2perdition]

You want to hear more discussion about LeBron/Jordan? Think that 1's been beaten into the ground a bit bro.

Umm, I guess ESPN can probably help you with that.

Okay bro.

 

[michael777]

Okay bro.

you are such a liberal piece of shit

 

[festeringZit]

LeBitch gets negative points for all his pussy-ass flopping

 

[Shub]

Before the bearded one lebron was that guy. He traveled more than the ringling brothers lol. Can’t shoot free throws. Dips his shoulder like the mailman. Claims he’s the best in the world. When he loses a championship tells everyone they have to go back to their same problems. Let’s his 11 and 14 drink wine. Listens to shit music. Acts like a bitch. Flops like a bitch.

 

[Shub]

Kobe is an asshole too, same with MJ. Something they all share lol.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Just wanted to give a shoutout to the Kobe Bryant. The killer instinct, the stepping on your opponents throat, not letting him breathe, watching them die as you suck the life out of him, the clutch ability, the refusal to lose when the going gets tough...

 

[halekulani]

celtics, for all the commotion with their big 3, has won just 1 championship during kobe bryant's career

kobe got 5
kobe also got 2 post shaq and one of them was against the C's.

 

[PatsFan1283]

celtics, for all the commotion with their big 3, has won just 1 championship during kobe bryant's career

kobe got 5
kobe also got 2 post shaq and one of them was against the C's.

Lol, Garnett had knee surgery during their 2nd year together and was never the same player after that. And they didn't come together until they were old. Kudos to Kobe for coming back strong the next season and showing that killer instinct, heart of a champion, stepping on the other persons throat after the Celts blew him off the court by 40 in an elimination game (to this day the biggest elimination game rout in finals history)

Or as I like to call it "Getting to play the Magic and Nuggets in the finals and conf finals", nice work if you can get it.

 

[road2perdition]

Just wanted to give a shoutout to the Kobe Bryant. The killer instinct, the stepping on your opponents throat, not letting him breathe, watching them die as you suck the life out of him, the clutch ability, the refusal to lose when the going gets tough...

You're clearly trolling or don't know sports. Anybody that argues Kobe Bryant's killer instinct doesn't know sports or is just trolling. When you play that long you are going to have a blemish here and there. Kobe has won 5 rings.

Lebron has faded/quit on more than one occasion and we're talking big picture here not one game. The mentality. You're focused on one game and one game doesn't define a career or killer instinct. Throughout Lebron's career he has jumped from team to team to better his chances whereas Kobe stayed and won with Shaq then won with that clown Gasol...Mamba.

Lebron doesn't have the killer instinct. Kobe and Jordan do. That's just a fact. Beyond that I can't teach it to you any simpler.

 

[road2perdition]

Lol, Garnett had knee surgery during their 2nd year together and was never the same player after that. And they didn't come together until they were old. Kudos to Kobe for coming back strong the next season and showing that killer instinct, heart of a champion, stepping on the other persons throat after the Celts blew him off the court by 40 in an elimination game (to this day the biggest elimination game rout in finals history)

Or as I like to call it "Getting to play the Magic and Nuggets in the finals and conf finals", nice work if you can get it.

The fact that you're trying to make a guy that won 5 rings and has hit clutch shot after clutch shot, taken over games, but using a couple bad examples to discredit him or his killer instinct is bad debate skills. Terrible actually.

You're going to argue Kobe's killer instincts I can't take you seriously. You're clearly trolling and I'm bored of it. You seem obsessive.

 

[road2perdition]

 

[road2perdition]

And it's not just about highlights....I'm sure I've watched more bball than you. I can just tell. Definitely more than Justinecruise and for a longer period of time. Just my educated guess.

But you keep hating if you want. It's all good.

Kobe 5 rings same team. Legend.

Jordan 6 rings with same team. Legend.

Lebron? With his God given build and bball IQ and talent? 3 Rings and whined about help throughout...Killer instinct huh? Never seen so much flopping and bitching from a guy with so much killer instinct. Lol. Ok guys. Have a nice Sunday.

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[PatsFan1283]

The fact that you're trying to make a guy that won 5 rings and has hit clutch shot after clutch shot, taken over games, but using a couple bad examples to discredit him or his killer instinct is bad debate skills. Terrible actually.

You're going to argue Kobe's killer instincts I can't take you seriously. You're clearly trolling and I'm bored of it. You seem obsessive.

I didn't discredit him. I said LeBron James is clearly better than him.

"Killer instinct" is just something Skip Bayless and ESPN taught you. He's come up short in big games a ton in his career.

If LeBron got drafted by the Lakers in 1996, he would have more rings than Kobe got. If Kobe got drafted by the Cavs in '03, he would have less rings than LeBron has. If LeBron and Kobe play on = teams, LeBron's team does better.

Why does all of this happen? Because if we're not bball fishes, we think LeBron James is better than Kobe Bryant.

 

[JustinCruise]

I didn't discredit him. I said LeBron James is clearly better than him.

"Killer instinct" is just something Skip Bayless and ESPN taught you. He's come up short in big games a ton in his career.

If LeBron got drafted by the Lakers in 1996, he would have more rings than Kobe got. If Kobe got drafted by the Cavs in '03, he would have less rings than LeBron has. If LeBron and Kobe play on = teams, LeBron's team does better.

Why does all of this happen? Because if we're not bball fishes, we think LeBron James is better than Kobe Bryant.

+1

 

[PatsFan1283]

If Gasol is such a clown, why couldn't Kobe get out of the first round without him? Not once in 3 years?

Why did Kobe request a trade from the Lakers after the 2007 season? Why not just use his "killer instinct" and turn the team around?

ESPN ruined you. They made you think sports was a soap opera, it isn't.

 

[PatsFan1283]

+1

Let's just sort by how many rings guys have! That's that analytical, deep nuanced shit.

Robert Horry GOAT