This is one of the dumber statements I've ever read.
This wouldn't be legal because the 5th Amendment requires, and there is extensive case law on this, that you be convicted of a crime before any of your constitutional rights are infringed.
I'm glad you're actually at the intellectual capacity where you think someone on allergy medicine shouldn't be able to buy a handgun though. That's some deep thinking there.
Substantive due process
A doctrine holding that the 5th and 14th Amendments require all governmental intrusions into fundamental rights and liberties be fair and reasonable and in furtherance of a legitimate governmental interest. The U.S. Supreme Court during the middle of the 20th Century used substantive due process to give added force to the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution by constraining certain actions by law enforcement, prosecutors, and judges.
^ So you want scrap this. How do you get this principle overturned from two dozen supreme court cases, for example?
Can the legislature just pass unconstitutional laws?
And let me be specific, the very first time someone is denied a gun purchase because the FBI says they are a "terror suspect" there will be lawsuits. And given the rich due process history in America, this is bedrock jurisprudence, the plaintiff is going to win.
What then?
This is all time classic liberal stupidity. Here is what you average liberal knows about firearms
CARLSON: I read the legislation and it said that it would regulate “barrel shrouds.” What’s a barrel shroud and why should we regulate that?
MCCARTHY:The guns that were chosen back in those days were basically the guns that most gangs and criminals were using to kill our police officers. I’m not saying it was the best bill, but that was they could get out at that particular time.
CARLSON: Ok. Do you know what a barrel shroud is?
MCCARTHY: I actually don’t know what a barrel shroud is. I think it’s the shoulder thing that goes up.”
Who would want these morons in charge of anything, let alone people's firearms.
Guesser and vtard: but, but, but....we have do SOMETHING!
18 U.S. Code § 922
(d)It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—
(4)
has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;
(5)who, being an alien—
(A)
is illegally or unlawfully in the United States;
^ We already have those covered.
"Terrorist ties" would not pass constitutional muster.
So what can we do?
(d)It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—
(4)
has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;
(5)who, being an alien—
(A)
is illegally or unlawfully in the United States;
^ We already have those covered.
"Terrorist ties" would not pass constitutional muster.
So what can we do?
He had security clearance.
Plus he was screened and cleared twice by his employer
G4S is the largest security firm in the world.
Government contractor security firm where Orlando gunman worked says he passed two background checks
- Gunman Omar Mateen worked at G4S, the world's largest security firm
- The British company said he passed two background checks - one when he started in 2007 and another in 2013
- During the most recent review, they learned that Mateen had been questioned by the FBI
So how the hell is anyone going to stop him buying a gun.
He had clearance from G4S, so buying a gun was a cake walk.
Now maybe a reasonable approach is to have a 5 day waiting period on AR-15 (or similar rifle) sales.
I can't say I would vociferously oppose that, but California has 10 days and that didn't stop the ISIS attackers there. It seems to me these people are here for a number of years and then get radicalized and go crazy so I'm not sure it would do much good.
I can't say I would vociferously oppose that, but California has 10 days and that didn't stop the ISIS attackers there. It seems to me these people are here for a number of years and then get radicalized and go crazy so I'm not sure it would do much good.
Guesser (DaFinch)
You are such a imbecile.
Here are a few of your recent posts
What kind of a Country are we when a sick guy like this, who had at least one police report against him for spousal abuse, had been interviewed by law enforcement 3 times for possible terrorist leanings, could get a weapon of mass destruction so easily, less than a week before this horrific hate crime. Sadly it's too late, nothing will be done. G-d save America.
There's no narrative to change, it WAS a hate crime. Perpetrated by what appears to be a mentally unbalanced, possibly steroid adled, anti gay nut case, who could still get a weapon of mass destruction easily, less than a week before his terrorist act.
He planned this for months, when he was outraged at seeing 2 gays making out on the street in front of him and his child. That's what intolerance does to the severely mentally unstable. A normal straight person might be turned off by such a display, and then go on with their day. A Nutcase simmers, stews, and plots his revenge. That's why he chose this Gay Club.
You are such a imbecile.
Here are a few of your recent posts
What kind of a Country are we when a sick guy like this, who had at least one police report against him for spousal abuse, had been interviewed by law enforcement 3 times for possible terrorist leanings, could get a weapon of mass destruction so easily, less than a week before this horrific hate crime. Sadly it's too late, nothing will be done. G-d save America.
There's no narrative to change, it WAS a hate crime. Perpetrated by what appears to be a mentally unbalanced, possibly steroid adled, anti gay nut case, who could still get a weapon of mass destruction easily, less than a week before his terrorist act.
He planned this for months, when he was outraged at seeing 2 gays making out on the street in front of him and his child. That's what intolerance does to the severely mentally unstable. A normal straight person might be turned off by such a display, and then go on with their day. A Nutcase simmers, stews, and plots his revenge. That's why he chose this Gay Club.
[h=2]I'm happy to call it 'radical Islamism': Under pressure from Trump Hillary ditches Obama and addresses Orlando attacker's religion[/h]
Trump had been hounding the pair to call the shooting 'radical Islamic terrorism.' Today Clinton said, To me radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing. I'm happy to say either.'
According to Guesser (DaFinch)
He planned this for months, when he was outraged at seeing 2 gays making out
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According to Guesser (DaFinch)
He planned this for months, when he was outraged at seeing 2 gays making out
"
Orlando terrorist connected to radical Muslim cleric who was released from prison last year after he converted 36 people in jail and 'runs a website used to dispense his teachings'
Omar Mateen is believed to be tied to radical Muslim cleric Marcus Dwayne Robertson who was released from prison last year. Mateen was shot dead after he killed 49 people inside a nightclub.
[h=2]'Get rid of them': Islamic preacher who called for gays to be 'executed' was giving lectures in Orlando just weeks before massacre[/h]
A controversial Islamic preacher who has called for homosexual people to be put to death and recently spoke in Orlando, Florida, is currently in Sydney.
[h=2]'Get rid of them': Islamic preacher who called for gays to be 'executed' was giving lectures in Orlando just weeks before massacre[/h]
Well isn't this interesting. The FBI apparently brushed this off because the guy said he knew the Boston Bombers but was lying.
And: Mateen’s ex-wife, in a Washington Post interview, said Mateen physically abused her, was mentally unhinged, and showed no signs of religious radicalism
And: Mateen’s ex-wife, in a Washington Post interview, said Mateen physically abused her, was mentally unhinged, and showed no signs of religious radicalism
