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The only place bets I make are on the 6 and 8(1.52%). That gives you 10 chances to win versus 6 ways of making a seven. I saw a kid roll the dice at the Casino Royale(Las Vegas) for 50 minutes and hit close to 30 six and eights before he sevened out. I would never pay the vig(4%) on the 5 and 9. The bottom line, correct or not, is everyone has the right to lose their "own" money anyway they want to playing a negative expectation game. Good Luck

By saying people have a right to lose their money makes you sound like a know it all. I'll tell you it is smarter to place the 5 and 9 as well and call your money off after two rolls than to just place the 6 and 8 and wait for your money to vanish after that 7 hits.
 

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heatohio, you obviously have some "issues" and in real life a serious lack of people skills. I have read many of your posts and have seen a complete disregard for other people's point of view. You must have had the shit beat out of you on the playground when you were growing up. I was only saying that everybody has the right to play any system they want. I'ts their hard earned money. I would love to discuss this with you in person. Good luck
 

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Another loser in life that hates winners. Too fucking bad you peice of shit. Go fuck yourself with your jealousy. Let me know the second a 7 or an 8 or any other number is rolled 100X in a row. It won't happen! It is not my fault that you don't understand laws of averages. If you flip a coin 1,000,000X it will start to even out. Laws of probablilty!!! It becomes harder to repeat an event if that event keeps happening. The '85 Bears were unbeatable but even they lost once out of 19 games. You guys are too stuck on the simple minded way of looking at things. Please expand your mind a little and learn. Sure, any number can be rolled an infinate amount of times. But that has never happened nor would it ever happen. Things even out in the long run, that is fact. If you guys are too worried about playing online blackjack and giving away your money to the casinos then go right ahead.


Why are you so angry? Calm down man, take a deep breath.

You can believe what ever you want to believe. The fact of the matter is that a each roll of the dice is independent of one another. If I flip a coin 100 times, the 99th time is STILL independent of the other flips.

What you are trying to say is that when you roll the dice, that it is dependent on your last roll. That is simply not true.


You are talking about the law of averages. Sure, there is such a thing. The point is this comes into play over A LONG TERM TEST. When you are playing at the casino, it is short term no matter how long you stay there. Over a billion rolls you are going to see things even out, sure.

Over 100 rolls- No.

This discussion isn't going anywhere because you are evidently too fucking ignorrant to understand mathmatics.
 

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There are many people who believe in the existance of repeating patterns even in a sample of random numbers. Unfortunately they can never come up with an exact formula to test against the math. There have been plenty of articles written on the subject so he is definitely not alone in his thinking. His attitude sucks, though so you will not get a rational discussion out of him.
 

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heatohio, you obviously have some "issues" and in real life a serious lack of people skills. I have read many of your posts and have seen a complete disregard for other people's point of view. You must have had the shit beat out of you on the playground when you were growing up. I was only saying that everybody has the right to play any system they want. I'ts their hard earned money. I would love to discuss this with you in person. Good luck


Please read through everything before you go making yourself look stupid. I'm not the one that had a problem with anyones way of playing, it was everyone else who had a problem with my way of playing. No, I did not get beat up, I'm not the fat loser type this site attracts.
 

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Why are you so angry? Calm down man, take a deep breath.

You can believe what ever you want to believe. The fact of the matter is that a each roll of the dice is independent of one another. If I flip a coin 100 times, the 99th time is STILL independent of the other flips.

What you are trying to say is that when you roll the dice, that it is dependent on your last roll. That is simply not true.


You are talking about the law of averages. Sure, there is such a thing. The point is this comes into play over A LONG TERM TEST. When you are playing at the casino, it is short term no matter how long you stay there. Over a billion rolls you are going to see things even out, sure.

Over 100 rolls- No.

This discussion isn't going anywhere because you are evidently too fucking ignorrant to understand mathmatics.


You tell me to calm down and then at the end of your ramble call me fucking ignorant. I think someone needs to take their own advise. Listen up losers, I'm done with the braindead bunch. If anyone ever wants to take me up on my bet offer let me know. I'll be more than happy to take your money as well.

Before I go let me touch on your point on long term events. That is my point about all of the math mumbo jumbo. The math is only relevent for thousands and hundreds of thousands of rolls. The fact is that you have only 6 ways to lose and 18 ways to win. That is math. I understand the house edge but that is taken into account over, like you said, a long period of time. The house edge is about 6% on roullete which means you should lose an average of $6 every hour with a $100 bankroll. When does this ever happen????? When does the actual mathmatical odds really take place in a 2 hour session of any game? Or 30 minute session for that matter? The answer is that it doesn't. The odds are stacked against you when you grind out hours and hours at any given table, they will catch up with you. With a win/loss total pre set before you enter a casino you can take most of that long term advantage away. 10% of your bankroll is all you should expect to win from any table. That makes it very easy to walk away while up just a little bit of money. You are not giving the casino that long term play, therefore taking away that long term edge they have over you.
 

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There are many people who believe in the existance of repeating patterns even in a sample of random numbers. Unfortunately they can never come up with an exact formula to test against the math. There have been plenty of articles written on the subject so he is definitely not alone in his thinking. His attitude sucks, though so you will not get a rational discussion out of him.


My attitude sucks? You began this whole thing talking down to me like I'm an idiot. I've given logical responses to everything brought up to me. You guys are the ones calling me an idiot and telling me I'm ignorant. Take a fucking look at yourselves and the way you talk to people.
 

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Seriously, that could be verbatim from Singer with Video Poker. Short term goals etc.
 

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You are not kidding.

The things that people believe is amazing to me.

Me too.

But ever ask yourself "who the fuck would buy this get rich quick schemes you see on TV, or John Patricks craps system videos etc"?

Now you have your answer.

There are people that actually insist on being ignorant even when faced with adversity. They fight through and conquer intelligence with their own need to be a moron.
 

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Me too.

But ever ask yourself "who the fuck would buy this get rich quick schemes you see on TV, or John Patricks craps system videos etc"?

Now you have your answer.

There are people that actually insist on being ignorant even when faced with adversity. They fight through and conquer intelligence with their own need to be a moron.
:lolBIG: conquer intelligence. That's funny.
 

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Seriously, that could be verbatim from Singer with Video Poker. Short term goals etc.

I've never heard of Singer. In fact I have never even done more than skim through books about gambling. Like I stated earlier, I met a guy that played this way and it seemed like it was worth a try. The first time I played it I made enough to take a trip to Vegas. While in Vegas I did very well. When I got back I started going to Detroit (they have the nearest casino to me) every weekend and making extra cash. This went on for about a year or so before the gas prices and wear on my car made me stop. Since then I have been going to different casinos on about a monthly basis. During this time I have only lost money a few times, which everyone is going to lose here and there. I do think short term goals is good. It takes the greed aspect out of it, which is what kills so many gamblers. I never push beyond what I set as my win limit. I don't really think winning in casinos is as hard as people make it out to be if people were just smarter about it. One thing that makes me really feel that I'm doing somthing right is the dealers and boxmens attitudes towards my bets. They mock me for calling of my place bets and try their hardest to throw me off while they welcome all the YO and world bets and hardways. They never once laughed at someone for playing the field bet over and over again. They welcome the horrilbe plays and try to make you feel stupid if you play smart.
 

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Me too.

But ever ask yourself "who the fuck would buy this get rich quick schemes you see on TV, or John Patricks craps system videos etc"?

Now you have your answer.

There are people that actually insist on being ignorant even when faced with adversity. They fight through and conquer intelligence with their own need to be a moron.

I know for a fact that I'm more intelligent then you could ever wish to be. No, I don't buy the craps systems. I never even seen a commercial for that. I guess someone is too overweight to get off of the couch. Talk shit loser, I know that I'm better than you in every single way of life. It is also easy to call someone stupid over a fucking computer. Fat fucks like you never talk to someones face. Have your heartattack now loser. Hopefully I see you guys at the bash this year, we will see who is talking then.
 

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I've never heard of Singer. In fact I have never even done more than skim through books about gambling. Like I stated earlier, I met a guy that played this way and it seemed like it was worth a try. The first time I played it I made enough to take a trip to Vegas. While in Vegas I did very well. When I got back I started going to Detroit (they have the nearest casino to me) every weekend and making extra cash. This went on for about a year or so before the gas prices and wear on my car made me stop. Since then I have been going to different casinos on about a monthly basis. During this time I have only lost money a few times, which everyone is going to lose here and there. I do think short term goals is good. It takes the greed aspect out of it, which is what kills so many gamblers. I never push beyond what I set as my win limit. I don't really think winning in casinos is as hard as people make it out to be if people were just smarter about it. One thing that makes me really feel that I'm doing somthing right is the dealers and boxmens attitudes towards my bets. They mock me for calling of my place bets and try their hardest to throw me off while they welcome all the YO and world bets and hardways. They never once laughed at someone for playing the field bet over and over again. They welcome the horrilbe plays and try to make you feel stupid if you play smart.

1. You have a winning craps system but "gas prices and wear on my car made me stop". Do I even need to say anything here? I cant stop laughing.

2. "They welcome the horrilbe plays and try to make you feel stupid if you play smart." I am confident you have no idea what a smart play is. They are more likely laughing at you thinking that pulling down your place bets or whatever you do is actually helping you. There are varying degrees of bets that are better than others on the craps table, but since EVERY bet has a negative EV every bet is dumb.
 

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I know for a fact that I'm more intelligent then you could ever wish to be. No, I don't buy the craps systems. I never even seen a commercial for that. I guess someone is too overweight to get off of the couch. Talk shit loser, I know that I'm better than you in every single way of life. It is also easy to call someone stupid over a fucking computer. Fat fucks like you never talk to someones face. Have your heartattack now loser. Hopefully I see you guys at the bash this year, we will see who is talking then.

You should learn what a "fact" is. That might help you in life, and it will certainly help you in debating things that have tangible facts like mathematics.

In the battle of heatholio of the RX fame vs mathematics, I think I would put my money on math. But thats just me.

GL with your system. I hope you can find the gas money to make it work out.

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1. You have a winning craps system but "gas prices and wear on my car made me stop". Do I even need to say anything here? I cant stop laughing.

2. "They welcome the horrilbe plays and try to make you feel stupid if you play smart." I am confident you have no idea what a smart play is. They are more likely laughing at you thinking that pulling down your place bets or whatever you do is actually helping you. There are varying degrees of bets that are better than others on the craps table, but since EVERY bet has a negative EV every bet is dumb.

Yes, driving nearly 8 hours every weekend was a bit much to take. I don't need the money that badly. I cut my trips down to once a month and do just fine with that. Except for right now. I just got back from Vegas and now I'm going to AC for this weekend. I'll be in New Orleans and Miss. the next weekend. Life is good for me, how is life in South Dakota going for you?:lol:
 

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You have a serious issue with me or somthing? Tough little boy over the computer aren't we.
That's really funny. You have talked more shit to more people in the last 2 days than anyone ever has on this site. And you are accusing me of being an internet tough guy? No serious issue, I just dismiss you as a dipshit and hold no hard feelings.
 

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You should learn what a "fact" is. That might help you in life, and it will certainly help you in debating things that have tangible facts like mathematics.

In the battle of heatholio of the RX fame vs mathematics, I think I would put my money on math. But thats just me.

GL with your system. I hope you can find the gas money to make it work out.

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I'm well aware of what a fact is. Something that can be proven, and it is simple to prove who is smarter than another. Like when you were in school and they shipped your type in that different bus, they knew for a FACT that you people were not as smart as the others.
 

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That's really funny. You have talked more shit to more people in the last 2 days than anyone ever has on this site. And you are accusing me of being an internet tough guy? No serious issue, I just dismiss you as a dipshit and hold no hard feelings.

I attack back when people attack me. I dismiss you as a pus*y and will leave it at that. I hope that I see all of you at that bash this year. I will have loads of fun than.
 

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