looking for advice about casinos

[gbogo]

im not sure that craps is beatable as a profession myself.

the most optimal bet has to repeat itself several times to enable you to profit enough to leave and the other bets the odds are harder to overcome, and the conditions for that event change each time.

think that one would not offer the best use of time and money

 

[Illini]

I attack back when people attack me. I dismiss you as a pus*y and will leave it at that. I hope that I see all of you at that bash this year. I will have loads of fun than.

You have used 6th grade name calling in all of these threads. You get cornered because you have no way to back up your false argument, so you change the subject and call somebody a rider of the special ed bus. You are a fucking tool. The sooner you shut your mouth, the less people will realize what an idiot you are. Why would you go to the bash? Pretty much everyone on here thinks you are an asshole.

 

[gbogo]

the most consistent return would be a team of blackjack players

roulette doesnt require team betting but it requires more time and discipline - so as not to overplay or overtrade so to speak.

 

[vanzack]

Heatohio - I think you could do yourself a lot of good by just telling us how you can take individual negative EV wagers, and combine them to make a positive EV.

If you did this instead of calling everyone names and telling us how it is a fact that you are smarter than us, it would be self evident.

I look forward to your response.

 

[gbogo]

horse racing is pretty basic

dependent on the various track conditions once you have done the ratings

you know what the true price of the horse should be, you just have to wait for the right track price and race condition to make your bet.

 

[heatohio]

Heatohio, I wish you the best of luck.

:toast:

Thank you, I wish you luck as well.

 

[heatohio]

You have used 6th grade name calling in all of these threads. You get cornered because you have no way to back up your false argument, so you change the subject and call somebody a rider of the special ed bus. You are a fucking tool. The sooner you shut your mouth, the less people will realize what an idiot you are. Why would you go to the bash? Pretty much everyone on here thinks you are an asshole.

I'll be there to let all the shit talkers man up. My money says not one of you say word one to me while I'm there. Trust me, me and my girlfriend would want little to do with the losers that this place attracts. Not everyone here thinks I'm an ass. I get along great with the ones who don't shit talk. I've backed up every single word that I have said. Unable to read are we? All you guys have said is that it is not possible to win at craps, and I'm telling you that I've been doing it for years. If you tell someone that what they are about to do is impossible and they go ahead and do it anyway, proving that it is possible, than your arguement goes away. I let actions do my talking. See you at the bash.

 

[vanzack]

I'll be there to let all the shit talkers man up. My money says not one of you say word one to me while I'm there. Trust me, me and my girlfriend would want little to do with the losers that this place attracts. Not everyone here thinks I'm an ass. I get along great with the ones who don't shit talk. I've backed up every single word that I have said. Unable to read are we? All you guys have said is that it is not possible to win at craps, and I'm telling you that I've been doing it for years. If you tell someone that what they are about to do is impossible and they go ahead and do it anyway, proving that it is possible, than your arguement goes away. I let actions do my talking. See you at the bash.

In an effort to understand what you are saying, I will be so bold as to try and paraphrase your argument:

You state that while you acknowledge that every craps bet has a negative EV your experience is that you win playing craps. You dont have a mathematical explanation, you just know that you win, and therefore it is possible to win playing craps.

Is this right? If not, please clarify.

:toast:

 

[Illini]

I'll be there to let all the shit talkers man up. My money says not one of you say word one to me while I'm there. Trust me, me and my girlfriend would want little to do with the losers that this place attracts. Not everyone here thinks I'm an ass. I get along great with the ones who don't shit talk. I've backed up every single word that I have said. Unable to read are we? All you guys have said is that it is not possible to win at craps, and I'm telling you that I've been doing it for years. If you tell someone that what they are about to do is impossible and they go ahead and do it anyway, proving that it is possible, than your arguement goes away. I let actions do my talking. See you at the bash.

What is there to argue with a guy that looks out the window, sees that there is not a cloud in the sky, and insists that it's pouring down rain?

 

[JDeuce]

Pardon me while I step over the burned and charred corpse which was once heatohio...

Santo said:

Not quite. The reason is that there is only one combination of 100 rolls that gets you a 100/0 result, where as there are many combinations that give you 50/50.

Fair enough, then we're sort of talking about the same thing in different terminology. Even though each action is independent, the odds of CONSECUTIVELY achieving the same outcome in a game are low. That's basically what I was trying to say...

Wait, what was the original point of this thread again?

 

[heatohio]

Pardon me while I step over the burned and charred corpse which was once heatohio...

Santo said:

Not quite. The reason is that there is only one combination of 100 rolls that gets you a 100/0 result, where as there are many combinations that give you 50/50.

Fair enough, then we're sort of talking about the same thing in different terminology. Even though each action is independent, the odds of CONSECUTIVELY achieving the same outcome in a game are low. That's basically what I was trying to say...

Wait, what was the original point of this thread again?

No, the corpse would be you if you talked like this to my face, you little bitch.

 

[heatohio]

What is there to argue with a guy that looks out the window, sees that there is not a cloud in the sky, and insists that it's pouring down rain?

:monsters-Have you given up on trying to make sense?

 

[vanzack]

In an effort to understand what you are saying, I will be so bold as to try and paraphrase your argument:

You state that while you acknowledge that every craps bet has a negative EV your experience is that you win playing craps. You dont have a mathematical explanation, you just know that you win, and therefore it is possible to win playing craps.

Is this right? If not, please clarify.

:toast:

Heatohio - can you just address this subject concisely? You gloss over these substance posts in order to post your next insult.

I am really trying to understand your position.

 

[MattRain]

Seriously.

 

[WVU]

You tell me to calm down and then at the end of your ramble call me fucking ignorant. I think someone needs to take their own advise. Listen up losers, I'm done with the braindead bunch. If anyone ever wants to take me up on my bet offer let me know. I'll be more than happy to take your money as well.

Before I go let me touch on your point on long term events. That is my point about all of the math mumbo jumbo. The math is only relevent for thousands and hundreds of thousands of rolls. The fact is that you have only 6 ways to lose and 18 ways to win. That is math. I understand the house edge but that is taken into account over, like you said, a long period of time. The house edge is about 6% on roullete which means you should lose an average of $6 every hour with a $100 bankroll. When does this ever happen????? When does the actual mathmatical odds really take place in a 2 hour session of any game? Or 30 minute session for that matter? The answer is that it doesn't. The odds are stacked against you when you grind out hours and hours at any given table, they will catch up with you. With a win/loss total pre set before you enter a casino you can take most of that long term advantage away. 10% of your bankroll is all you should expect to win from any table. That makes it very easy to walk away while up just a little bit of money. You are not giving the casino that long term play, therefore taking away that long term edge they have over you.

Re-read the bolded section and tell me if you really think you know what house edge means.

 

[vanzack]

Re-read the bolded section and tell me if you really think you know what house edge means.

I missed that.

a 6% house edge translates to $6 every hour on a $100 bankroll.

Unreal.

:lolBIG: :lol:

 

[Santo]

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

Also, the story of the famous Craps system: http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/challenge.html

 

[vanzack]

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

Also, the story of the famous Craps system: http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/challenge.html

I absolutely do not respond to e-mails that suggest a player can beat a negative expection game over the long run with a betting system. Such e-mail is deleted on sight. I have said all I have to say on the topic here and in my FAQ.

Maybe we should just take the same advice with this clown heatholio.

 

[Illini]

I missed that.

a 6% house edge translates to $6 every hour on a $100 bankroll.

Unreal.

:lolBIG: :lol:

I missed reading that the first time also. :missingte I don't think he'll be responding in this thread anymore. What a piece of work.

 

[Kruser6]

I missed that.

a 6% house edge translates to $6 every hour on a $100 bankroll.

Unreal.

:lolBIG: :lol:

Oh my, this guy is freaking hilarious.

This is like trying to argue with someone what the answer to 2+2 is.


HeatOhio, do you believe in Santa Clause too?


Yes 2+2 = 4