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I trust that you are a typical gambler who believes in crap. I am glad it is working out for you. Tha variance that is


I'm far from the typical gambler. I'm sorry that you lose your ass everytime you enter a casino and therefore think that everyone does, but that is just not true. I'll teach you how to play sometime if you'd like. Free of charge at that, just because I'm a nice guy.:thumbsup:
 

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I might suggest you read all my past posts on the subject. Do a search and don't listen to the naysayers here. They do not know what they are talking about. I have played and have statistics for many millions of hands on most of the online platforms.


:smoking: You play online blackjack and are telling people how to gamble???? Oh my someone needs a gambling 101 lesson. Many millions of hands? What statistics could you possibly have about online blackjack? Let me guess, you discovered the martingangle system.:lol:
 

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heatohio...if you only knew how silly you sound. You have 3000 posts and you are acting as green as they come.
 

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personally no chance to win your money agst the house money at online blackjack

wvu can help you take advantage of the bonuses to put it in your favor if you play disciplined

the typical pattern for online blackjack tends to be most people bet small and win, they increase their bets, lose, double up -- and the draws the dealer gets to beat you seem to be unreal.

so if you can avoid that type of trap and take advantage of a bonus good luck.


LIVE GAME seems better chance as you can move tables involve other players and count the cards. however as ive said before typically in my case it often comes down to just one or two large hands that determines the result and the casino tends to win those - which lowers my hourly rate of return to a level that wasnt worth my time

roulette however for me is very pattern orientated and Im very good at that type of game. People on the forums tend to disagree but I guess everyone has their own area that they think they have an edge - well this is where I believe mine is.
 

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When you are up...and are feeding yourself excuses "why you should play a few more" GO..GO FAST.


I only play live blackjack, but when you get that split second feeling that it is time to go. It usually is time to go. Better to be a $40 winner than $100 loser, at the end of the year these sessions will make or break you.
 

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personally no chance to win your money agst the house money at online blackjack

wvu can help you take advantage of the bonuses to put it in your favor if you play disciplined

the typical pattern for online blackjack tends to be most people bet small and win, they increase their bets, lose, double up -- and the draws the dealer gets to beat you seem to be unreal.

so if you can avoid that type of trap and take advantage of a bonus good luck.


LIVE GAME seems better chance as you can move tables involve other players and count the cards. however as ive said before typically in my case it often comes down to just one or two large hands that determines the result and the casino tends to win those - which lowers my hourly rate of return to a level that wasnt worth my time

roulette however for me is very pattern orientated and Im very good at that type of game. People on the forums tend to disagree but I guess everyone has their own area that they think they have an edge - well this is where I believe mine is.


Again good post except the fact that you think you have an edge at roulette? You have an edge why? are you good at guessing? can your mind actually envision the exact spot that the ball will drop into based on gravity and its relationship with velocity? Like our friend the Craps expert, can you predict randomness?

The gambling mentality at its finest.
 

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heatohio...if you only knew how silly you sound. You have 3000 posts and you are acting as green as they come.

First of all, you could have 40,000 posts and be as green as can be or you could have 3 posts and be a pro gambler. Posts on a stupid forum and your ability to gamble have nothing to do with each other. I'm telling you about real world experience. I've been gambling for over 9 years (I'm nearly 29 and have been gambling since 19 going up to Niagara Falls) A lot of this time I was the typical gambler (never played slots though) I played roulette, did not know even basic stratagy on blackjack never even looked at the craps table. I was happy to lose my money as long as I had fun doing it. About 3 years ago I started playing craps. I met someone at the Seneca NY casino that played the way I play now. He claimed that he usually won and I saw him winning. Since then I have been playing that certain way and have almost always won. Dicipline, money management and my way of playing equals winning. I'm sorry that you don't believe that anyone can win.
 

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Again good post except the fact that you think you have an edge at roulette? You have an edge why? are you good at guessing? can your mind actually envision the exact spot that the ball will drop into based on gravity and its relationship with velocity? Like our friend the Craps expert, can you predict randomness?

The gambling mentality at its finest.

You are really stuck on the concept that you know more than anyone else about gambling. I do agree that roulette is a horrible game but some wheels have been known to show bias. I'm not willing to put in the time it takes to actually figure out which wheels are off but some people are. Most likely this guy does not do this either and has just gotten lucky a few times but it is not your place to put down others. And before you dare say that no wheels favor certain numbers just stop. Casino managers aknowledge this and work hard to keep wheels from becoming off center. I would in no way tell anyone that roulette is a beatable game but there is that one slight advantage that some people may get.
 

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wvu none of the above

you dont understand pattern recognition I cant help you- and you dont want too.

If you look at stocks can you tell whether it goes up or down and how far it goes ? your telling me that a pattern doesnt form in roulette :lol: between red/black, 1st 2nd 3rd dozen, odd and even, big and small nor the columns ........ ok whatever - I dont need a bonus to beat that type of game - not at 35-1

heatohio i gamble for a living and have for 15 years (trading financial markets, horses, dogs, casino games, sportsbetting is more a small hobby) thats probably nothing compared to some people posting here, but thats the way it is, its my live experience.
 

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This thread has turned comical. You will not find a biased roulette wheel in North America. They go through extensive testing every day. This is not 1890. I do know a guy who found baised wheels in African casinos. He spent weeks making a bit of cash before the wheel was replaced.
Pattern recognition is hogwash, simple as that. Gambling is all about the math. The math tells me the house has the edge. A very high edge when it comes to American Roulette.

Heatohio....keep doing your thing and beating a negative expectation game. You will learn the hard way it seems. You simply cannot beat a negative expectation game long term. If you add comps and bonuses then you can, otherwise it is impossible.

I have a bit of experience online and offline playing just about every casino game out there. I have made a nice chunk of change and it wasn't because I was winning.
 

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wvu none of the above
? your telling me that a pattern doesnt form in roulette :lol: between red/black, 1st 2nd 3rd dozen, odd and even, big and small nor the columns ........ ok whatever - I dont need a bonus to beat that type of game - not at 35-1

You have a 1-38 shot and it pays 1-35. Yeah sure you can recognize patterns in roulette...after the fact.

In 2001 I played in a promotion at Casino On Net that was paying 70-1 on 2 numbers for 2 hours. You can do a search here and find out more about it. We made an absolute killing.
 

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wvu - you simply dont get it its not wheel bias its the pattern of the numbers themselves ?

with as many games as you have played havent you ever seen a wheel

go black first 12, red 3rd twelve, black 1st twelve,

at the same time even odd even

then by column

you narrow the bet down to 2-3 numbers yet you return 35-1 per bet

all you have to do is identify the trends in the game itself



its very similar to how you look at financial markets



if you have never sat down and bet at those times where the patterns are strong then thats your problem.
 

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i only play at the grand in tunica, vegas and sydney

single zero only
 

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wvu - you simply dont get it its not wheel bias its the pattern of the numbers themselves ?

with as many games as you have played havent you ever seen a wheel

go black first 12, red 3rd twelve, black 1st twelve,

at the same time even odd even

then by column

you narrow the bet down to 2-3 numbers yet you return 35-1 per bet

all you have to do is identify the trends in the game itself



its very similar to how you look at financial markets



if you have never sat down and bet at those times where the patterns are strong then thats your problem.

again unless the wheel is biased or the roulette dealer is untrained then patterns are non existent before they happen. There are occasions when the roulette dealer can actually attempt to manipulate the wheel. If you have someone on the inside then my point is moot.
 

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WVU,

For $100 I'll let you come over and bang your head against my brick wall out back. It might be a better way to spend your time.
 

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WVU, hit me up on msn sometime, if you would have some time to teach a rookie some of the "tricks of the trade" it would be greatly appreciated.
 

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well

that says it all - if you cant figure out patterns which was my original point then best you dont play

thats my specialty.


as for horse racing why dont you look at something like the following in australian horse racing

break the race winners into barrier position, weight, distance, track condition, jockey rating, horse age, state

see what you get ? you can reduce the program of 8 races down to 2-3 bettable races where you have a large edge. You will find sydney racing exceeds that of all others. looking at it from the opposite side if you look at the results and figure it for tasmanian racing you can narrow it down to 16-1 plus winners - looking at the consistency of the results.

oh i forgot to mention you will need 3 plus years of data - but you already knew that

i guess it depends what your interests are.
 

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i only play at the grand in tunica, vegas and sydney

single zero only


single zero roulette has a house edge of 2.7% Just as a comparison that is almost 7 times worse than blackjack playing optimal strategy.

double zero roulette has a 5.26% house edge which is highway robbery
 

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WVU, hit me up on msn sometime, if you would have some time to teach a rookie some of the "tricks of the trade" it would be greatly appreciated.


are you going to the Bash?
 

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