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The numbers are absolute, 100% true, and never will change. Rolling 7's are not as common as people may think? WTF does that mean? It doesn't matter what idiots think. It's not about thinking at all. It's about knowing with a mathematical certainty that a 7 will come up 1 out of every 6 rolls, on average. Because every single time you roll the dice, the odds are 1 in 6. The house has an edge on every roll, and that never changes either. It doesn't just show up here and there, and leave at certain times. It's hilarious that you consider the house edge to be a ghost that roams around, and when he shows up, that's the only time you lose. Got news for you. That ghost never leaves the table. There is a huge mathematical edge over you every time you play. I already proved that to you. Now think. Use your fucking brain.

People love to misquote others on here. I never said that "7's don't come up as much as people think", I said that 7's usually take a few rolls to come up. Not an exact science but it is the more than likely event that will happen. This comes from real world experience. I'm just curious about how much craps you have actually played in your life. I'd love to know the experience level of the person telling me what is and is not feasable. I know what your first response would be, "you don't need to play craps to know the odds" blah blah blah. I want to know what you actually know about the game other than what you heard on the travel channel on one of those Vegas shows.
 

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I hear Lakewood, OH is tough. Didn't Lakewood have the highest amount of homicides in the country? How many times do you have to say that "Where I'm from people get knocked out for talking....".
Lakewood must be nuts. Bitches runnin wild in the L-WOOD.
 

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I hear Lakewood, OH is tough. Didn't Lakewood have the highest amount of homicides in the country? How many times do you have to say that "Where I'm from people get knocked out for talking....".
Lakewood must be nuts. Bitches runnin wild in the L-WOOD.

You are a complete joke and waste. The places I hung out growing up were a lot different then the places you clowns hung out. You guys just called each other names all night and everybody was too afraid to do anything about it. You never had to back up your words and you can tell by the way you talk. I'm just saying that we had to be ready to fight if we wanted to talk shit.
 

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You are a complete joke and waste. The places I hung out growing up were a lot different then the places you clowns hung out. You guys just called each other names all night and everybody was too afraid to do anything about it. You never had to back up your words and you can tell by the way you talk. I'm just saying that we had to be ready to fight if we wanted to talk shit.


I could imagine it was tough growing up in a group home. You should make a movie like Eminem about growing up rough and then discovering the winning craps system.
 

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People love to misquote others on here. I never said that "7's don't come up as much as people think", I said that 7's usually take a few rolls to come up. Not an exact science but it is the more than likely event that will happen. This comes from real world experience. I'm just curious about how much craps you have actually played in your life. I'd love to know the experience level of the person telling me what is and is not feasable. I know what your first response would be, "you don't need to play craps to know the odds" blah blah blah. I want to know what you actually know about the game other than what you heard on the travel channel on one of those Vegas shows.

I still don't understand how the dice are able to know what roll of a sequence they are on.
 

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You proabably were normal but once you started taking juice you aren't the same.
 

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You proabably were normal but once you started taking juice you aren't the same.


Nope, never juiced, never took a drug, never smoked a cigarette, never drank a sip of alcohol. I just have this crazy thing where I don't let people run their mouths. Funny thing. I work out and take care of myself, I love how lazy people think that anyone who works out is juiceing. The gym is like a mystical far away land to you people.:lolBIG:
 

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I still don't understand how the dice are able to know what roll of a sequence they are on.


The dice do not know, that is one of my biggest points. The dice have more chances to end up on one of the numbers other than a 7, so they usually do so. The people that lose their place bets are the ones who stand around wishing for an hour long roll with tons of numbers. Try playing like this and tell me what happens.
 

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The dice do not know, that is one of my biggest points. The dice have more chances to end up on one of the numbers other than a 7, so they usually do so. The people that lose their place bets are the ones who stand around wishing for an hour long roll with tons of numbers. Try playing like this and tell me what happens.

What makes the first roll after a point is established any different than the 4th? That is my biggest point.
 

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Nope, never juiced, never took a drug, never smoked a cigarette, never drank a sip of alcohol. I just have this crazy thing where I don't let people run their mouths. Funny thing. I work out and take care of myself, I love how lazy people think that anyone who works out is juiceing. The gym is like a mystical far away land to you people.:lolBIG:

I don't think you juice because you work out, I think you juice because you are a raving lunatic. :bunnies:
 

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What makes the first roll after a point is established any different than the 4th? That is my biggest point.

Try playing like I play and you will see what I mean. Technically there is no difference between any roll, but the longer your money is on for, the more chance you have to lose. If the basic rule is that a 7 is thrown one out of every 6 rolls than you are minimizing your chances by minimizing the amount of rolls that you are working.
 

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I don't think you juice because you work out, I think you juice because you are a raving lunatic. :bunnies:


I'm sorry that you are not man enough to stand up for yourself and don't understand those that do. I feel for you, there are plenty of people just like you on this forum, you are not alone.
 

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Try playing like I play and you will see what I mean. Technically there is no difference between any roll, but the longer your money is on for, the more chance you have to lose. If the basic rule is that a 7 is thrown one out of every 6 rolls than you are minimizing your chances by minimizing the amount of rolls that you are working.

Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass and leave the winning to you. I'm minimizing my amount of rolls to zero. I'll stick with my boring pass and come bets with odds.
 

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People love to misquote others on here. I never said that "7's don't come up as much as people think", I said that 7's usually take a few rolls to come up. Not an exact science but it is the more than likely event that will happen. This comes from real world experience. I'm just curious about how much craps you have actually played in your life. I'd love to know the experience level of the person telling me what is and is not feasable. I know what your first response would be, "you don't need to play craps to know the odds" blah blah blah. I want to know what you actually know about the game other than what you heard on the travel channel on one of those Vegas shows.
You said "7's don't come up on the first two rolls as much as people think." It is an exact science. The odds are 1 in 6 on every roll. I've played a lot of craps in my life. I've seen the dice roll for 30 minutes, and I've seen 10 straight point- seven outs. I've seen about everything you could see on a craps table, and there is nothing predictable about the game, except that the mathematical odds never change. I usually play the pass line with odds, and buy the 4 and 10. I've had some big wins and some big losses. In general, I don't play the game anymore. Only once a year when I go to Vegas.
 

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Try playing like I play and you will see what I mean. Technically there is no difference between any roll, but the longer your money is on for, the more chance you have to lose. If the basic rule is that a 7 is thrown one out of every 6 rolls than you are minimizing your chances by minimizing the amount of rolls that you are working.

This just flat out prooves you have experienced some good variance. You have been LUCKY to have the money on the table at the right time. Because of this you think you have a winning system.

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Damn glad I started this thread I had no idea that such a simple post would lead to all this
 

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Heatohio- you play for peanuts, and your expected loss is 25 cents a roll. Good entertainment? Can be. Way to make money? No, it's a way to lose money.
 

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Illni, our system worked that night at the Hilton:lol:

EDIT: Well, sorta.......
 

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Heatohio- you play for peanuts, and your expected loss is 25 cents a roll. Good entertainment? Can be. Way to make money? No, it's a way to lose money.

I play for an amount that is relavent to my bankroll. It has and is a way to make money. Simple as that. I'm not doubting that a table can 7 out 10 times in a row, I'm sure it happens on a daily basis at casinos. That is where money management comes in. That is where dicipline to not chase comes in.
 

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